What would u do

VictorVIcious said:
I use flood and drain, its the same watering as ebb and flow, except you don't use a seperate 'controller unit' with five float valves, a timer and a pump, no individual 'bucket lines'. I do use pots in my system, I like to be able to move plants easily. The effect of high water temps is that it holds less dissolved oxygen and can promote root rot and mold. I compensate two ways. All of my reses have a double air stone and the acion of the flood and drain. When the pump shuts off the water flows back to the res and pulls air down to the roots when it does so. Ideally, I would just buy 6 chillers and keep the water temp at 65 degrees. VV
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im an organic soil man myself now but when i first started out i used an 8pot flood and drain system it was a bit pricey lookin back on it now i could of built it for a fraction of the price, but i was a noobie at the time and thought it was the must have thing! It was a similar type system to what u mentioned using a simple pump and digital timer with inline taps on all of the pots supply pipes to balance the flow and get even flooding across the pots, timer flooded the pots for 3mins every 3hours, the 3mins flooding was just enough to flood the pots just up to the overflow pipes then shut off. It worked great! The flooding action acts like a big syringe pushing all the stale air out and drawing fresh air in! Every 3hours, turbo charged hydro!
 
103 outside as i speak,added the 400mh and from 5am till 1pm it was doing ok but now unplugged the mh because it was 89 to 90 inthere.so im gonna have to rework my ductwork the 9000 btu a/c isnt gonna cut it.my res temp got up to 74 not good.back to confusion on what to do??that damn sativa luvs it hot but i know my ak hates it.and the AK is the pack leader she gets what she wants.:joint:
 
yeah london organics are the best for me to as far as taste but cannot come close IMO for yield i grow both hydro and organics and the dro growsalot faster and alot bigger yield i have my own compost pile and use it along with bat chiot, FE,CAN YOU duplicate with soil what u did in dro??
 
i assume yr in the states? It doesnt often get that hot here in the uk, but i use a cooltube for my 600w hps, and it keeps my room temps right down in comparison to the standard reflector i was using before, sorry i cant work in farenheit, but weve had outside temps of 30 degrees c here lately, and my room temps have got no higher than 28.5, not bad considering that my temps were 35+ degrees on similar days two years ago pre-cooltube, so maybe running yr hid's in air cooled reflectors would take the edge of yr temps if nothing else?? And u can get yr lights real close to the tops without burning em, i keep my 600 about 8inches away. As for the organic/hydro thing i cant and wont argue the fact that hydro is marginally faster and grows a bit bigger, but i only grow for the mrs and myself so speed and yield isnt that important to me, taste and just knowing theres no synthetic chemicals or minerals in my smoke is what i like about organics, doesnt bother me waiting an extra 2weeks or so for what i believe is far superior bud, plus i have two very hyperactive young kids and im self employed so i cant find the time for all that hydro maintenance anymore, iv always got 10 plants on the go, 5 in veg, 5 in bloom, sometimes i take clones if i get time, that brings me in around 15oz sometimes as much as 25oz every 2-3months, thats plenty for me an the other half.
 
Dang thats real good u said 600 total in flower? im doing something wrong...... i get about 1.5 to 2 ozs per plant with the ak47.under 400 hps with the hortiluxeye bulb.turn around from clone 80 to 85 days.and your right about 2 more weeks and almost 1 oz on the hydro but thats on a dwc 5 gallon buckett i have 4 of those,and a stealth hydro 6 holer im doing a light project on.orded a 600 hps so i gotta lot to do with my growroom design.400 hps 400mh and 600hps wish i could trade the 400x2 for a 600 digi to go with the other i ordered that way i could just get 2x 3by3 trays:? i waiting so more peeps on what they have done never had that much to play with been growing for yrs but outside. only 3 inside and only with the 400 hps stealth sytem like i said its just my hobby but give to much away and tired of being out and cant seem to get more than a couple months cure LOL shooting for atleast a 6 month cure wish me luck..oh yea texas
 
do u grow from seed or clone? How long do u veg for? U gotta stop giving ya green away! lol. yea 3oz p/plant is about my average sometimes a lil more, its when i take clones that boosts my harvests right up. I usually veg my plants for at least 7weeks, so as soon as one lot go's into flower im germinating the next lot and they'l veg all the time until the previous lot are out the bloom room. I do like the idea of dwc i may make a homemade dwc system, got everything id need already, and apparently my organic nutes can be applied to hydro, altho not reccomended for dripper systems coz it quite thick stuff. Yr 600 uv ordered should beef up yr yeilds a bit, what lamp have u ordered with it? I use sylvania grolux lamps, they burn brighter than standard son-t's or agro's etc but have a shorter lifespan so u have to replace lamps every two crops or so, they also have more added blue spectrum so u kinda get the benefit of mh and hps during bloom.
 
oh yea and good luck on the 6 month cure!! I couldnt do it lol. What i do sometimes is stash bits away around the house then after forgeting i find i them sometime later n im like oh where did this come from? It always tastes great and i always say il cure for longer next time but never do!
 
:mrgreen:yea the eye bulb i use has the blue spectrum and is damn high 79 just for the hortiluxeyebulb,i grow from both ive had the ak47 strain for almost 2 years,my mom is the one that made it thru the power failure thank the ganja gods. yea i can see now u veg twice as long as me i only veg 30 days at the very most because of the light density with the 400.due you clear off the botton popcorn buds are just letem grow? like the lower 3rd in the 3rd week of flower thats the way i do but im open for suggestions?? i do alot of myth busting projects for grins.i started growing inside for the love of it,i just like to grow stuff my watermelons were to die for this yr and they wanted damn near 8 bucks for a good size melon at the groc. store.from seed on the ak 2 weeks veg then about 50 days and there ready mind blowing almost 2 strong.on my organic earthworm castings perlite and some sand then some bat guano in flower. from seed in three weeks there almost 2 ft i hit em hard with fish emulsion and they dont strech stay very very bushey GL LOND,HOLLA BACK WHATS the cost of the bulb u got ?? i just got the horticulture bulb dont remember heck i need to find out and order a spare nothing like looking for a damn bulb at 3 am.im in the process of making a circuit so if something goes bad say my ballast does not light it sends a signal to me,but got some bugs to workout. :mrgreen:
 
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my temps stay around 75 without the ac since we hung a daytona blower over the lights, when its like 85 outside

running 800 watts of MH

I do have a problem with low humidity or should it be low?
 
yea but it has been over 100 here outside,106 monday got up to 88 in myflower room. u say low what is low ???is it in veg are flower?i like my humidity high in veg about 60 and no more than 50 in flower station it works for me and no bud mold.my a/c keeps my humidity in range that has worked for 3 yrs,i add a humdifier in my vegin station because with the light on it goes down in the 30 to 25 range you want to check IMO humidity in flower 1 hr after the lights have gone out GL,MY LIGHTS DONT GO OUT IN VEG.
 
dont be an idiot, cool the lamps.... by running a single in line fan across all your hoods your save way more money in electricity and provide a cooler heat output.. AC is a way greater electrical load than fans and it doesnt take much to cool lamps...
 
First off wtf u come here callin me an idiot,i do run a cooltube and inline fans .the name calling is just childish bs.HAS IT BEEN 106 WHERE U LIVE.my room usually never gets above 82 until three weeks of over 100,so have a nice day.
 
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SOMEBEECH said:
:mrgreen:yea the eye bulb i use has the blue spectrum and is damn high 79 just for the hortiluxeyebulb,i grow from both ive had the ak47 strain for almost 2 years,my mom is the one that made it thru the power failure thank the ganja gods. yea i can see now u veg twice as long as me i only veg 30 days at the very most because of the light density with the 400.due you clear off the botton popcorn buds are just letem grow? like the lower 3rd in the 3rd week of flower thats the way i do but im open for suggestions?? i do alot of myth busting projects for grins.i started growing inside for the love of it,i just like to grow stuff my watermelons were to die for this yr and they wanted damn near 8 bucks for a good size melon at the groc. store.from seed on the ak 2 weeks veg then about 50 days and there ready mind blowing almost 2 strong.on my organic earthworm castings perlite and some sand then some bat guano in flower. from seed in three weeks there almost 2 ft i hit em hard with fish emulsion and they dont strech stay very very bushey GL LOND,HOLLA BACK WHATS the cost of the bulb u got ?? i just got the horticulture bulb dont remember heck i need to find out and order a spare nothing like looking for a damn bulb at 3 am.im in the process of making a circuit so if something goes bad say my ballast does not light it sends a signal to me,but got some bugs to workout. :mrgreen:
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USD79 for a 400w lamp? Im guessing thats around GBP50? Here i pay GBP19.95 for the sylvania grolux 600w bulb, and its GBP14.95 for its 400w lil brother, grolux lamps are considered the yieldmaster here in the uk, but they deteriorate faster than standard hps lamps. So is yr hortilux lamp pure blue spectrum like a mh? Maybe ditching that in favour of a red/blue dual spectrum hps would increase yr yield? the popcorn fluff i leave on but what i do is take the first three sets of branches from the bottom off for good air circulation under the plant, these then go into making clones if i can b bothered, and i drill holes around the top rim of my pots and slowly train the lower branches to grow out from the stem at a 90degree angle during veg by tying them down to the holes in the pot kinda like lst just with lower branches, this gives better light penetration lower down the branches and helps to beef up the popcorn a bit, when u get yr 600, veg for another week or two longer and try exposing yr popcorn to more light by tying them out, yr yield wil thank u for it and yep order up some spare bulbs, i always keep 1 new and 1 old 600w spare lamps and a complete 250w system incase my 600 go's completely belly up plus i have spare envirolites for my veg room. And good luck on yr light faliure warning system, lets us know how it go's and how u did it when u got it perfected...
 
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no its a hps horticuture bulb with a little blue its still mostly redish orange in color it looks like the standard hps as far as the light it emits the one i can get for 20 usd,my friend owns a hydrostore and he reccomended it and the AN nutes.ive used the dm brand for 2 yrs.and 2 weeks with the AN nutes so far no complaints,i do train my plants to laydown like u say do but was gonna grow some outside but got scared and have to damn many plants in there but hell its to damn hot to do anything as far as my design 83 at 7am the tropical depression ed something didnt make to me by about 100 miles was gonna take down a wall and add another 60 sqft gotta go get the morons lind out on what there doing today its so hard to find good help.
 
I always suggest multiples of 4oo watt fixtures because of the versatility and they will sell well if you need to trade them.

400 watt light fixtures have the most economical coverage and the heat is enough to handle without shit getting out of hand.
 
sorry vibe but i disagree the 600 are IMO the best as far more bang for the buck almost double the lumens.
 
X2 on the 600, they are known as the home users utopia light.

Do the math on lumen loss and height placement above canopy and you will quickly see that for coverage and intesity 600 win over 400's and 1000's.

However in large plant number grows 1000's are the most viable option.
 
yep il third that on the 600 what is it 55000lumens for 400 and 96000 from a 600 dam i really cant remember thats bad, i got my head too wrapped up in these next generation sulphur plasma lamps 600,000 lumens from a 1340w lamp and the closest colour spectral distribution to the sun than any other lamp on earth! Have u read my thread on them? Anyway yea 600s win hands down
 
say what 600,000 holy chit where do u put 10 ft from the plant wheres your thread at london im very ill today,but will read when i feel better.:spew:
 
SOMEBEECH said:
say what 600,000 holy chit where do u put 10 ft from the plant wheres your thread at london im very ill today,but will read when i feel better.:spew:
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general marijuana growing its titled THE END OF HID's sulphur plasma technology. Get well soon beechy
 
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