what's happening at attitude seed bank?!

Dr.Pecker

Well-Known Member
Well then be very paranoid......lol use like www.hidemyass.com and when you go layer it so enter that same url in their box then enter this url and come here. that way its 2 random rotating ips and not a single static one.
Then I have to log in again I don't feel comfortable about entering my password and username into another website. Wouldn't it look more suspicious if your ip was bouncing around? I'm a medical marijuana patient anyway do you still think i should? Isn't the damage already done?
 

martyg

Well-Known Member
Hey I ordered seeds and now the tracking says sent abroad for export! Does that mean they sent it back. I live in Canada and the tracking said this at Toronto does anyone know?
 

see4

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attitude seed bank sucks. bad management, bad support staff. fuck them. i will never use them ever. they accuse their customers of being liars. real good business. fucking idiots.
 

BarnBuster

Virtually Unknown Member
I've used them in the past and been happy but not for a couple of years. I'll prob go with Herbie's next time I order. Too bad
 

R1b3n4

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On here if your in the US it is very hard to allow any free trade or gifting especially in public due to the servers being in US soil. That kind of stuff gives easy warrant access to the propaganda of known illegal activities. The seed banks over seas bit different as they ca sell the seeds just not supposed to sell them to the US and a few other countries but since they are not on US soil kinda leaves them alone. The site does alot of online promotion by having the search engines spider the site which is good for hits but endangers the users but we are of zero concern to the owner its about the dollar. Every post you pu here shows in google, yahoo and bing as it has been requested they find all poss and make it public which in turns draws more eyes and LEO so be careful.. Always use multiple proxies do not ever just type the address in the url bar and come here always use a proxy site and come from there. If the site gets caught allowing any illegal trades in the US going down they then can much easier get warrants for the servers which have ip addresses to those who come here and if you do a dummy and dont use proxies you left a trail to your computers location and you. Also use 3rd party picture hosting that you control as ZRoll will not remove or allow you to remove photos you may need to take down as it makes broken images in the site which is bad for advertiser recruitment so again less about user more about the dollar here. Soo dont trade sell or gift illegal items in public send pms and do at your own risk.
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Mr.Head

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And when you proxy jump and go threw all these steps to hide who you are you raise a tonne more red flags that are a hell of a lot more suspicious then signing into a pot forum.

You want to be caught growing pot using "the same methods as terrorists" ? LoL I think not.

The American government operates under if you have nothing to hide you won't hide. If they can hack TOR which they have successfully that's how they caught the silk road guy, they can figure out every single person on here no problem. You're not making it harder on them you're making it harder on yourself. There's no hiding from the Government if they want you, they have too much money to spend and don't care how big of a waste it is.

That said don't do stupid shit in public I agree with that, take it to PM :) Which if they wanted to they could have access in 5 seconds.
 

Cobnobuler

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Thats about the size of it above ^. I like to think the law has bigger and better things to do, especially where it comes to MJ. Its not a license to be stupid, but theres real crime, and hard drugs killing people at an alarming rate. Especially where I am. I'm sure they'll take a pot bust, but it can't be a top priority these days.
 

Midwest Weedist

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And when you proxy jump and go threw all these steps to hide who you are you raise a tonne more red flags that are a hell of a lot more suspicious then signing into a pot forum.

You want to be caught growing pot using "the same methods as terrorists" ? LoL I think not.

The American government operates under if you have nothing to hide you won't hide. If they can hack TOR which they have successfully that's how they caught the silk road guy, they can figure out every single person on here no problem. You're not making it harder on them you're making it harder on yourself. There's no hiding from the Government if they want you, they have too much money to spend and don't care how big of a waste it is.

That said don't do stupid shit in public I agree with that, take it to PM :) Which if they wanted to they could have access in 5 seconds.
Don't be fooled, they didn't hack tor per sa. They set up fake exit and entry nodes to catch the traffic and the fucking idiot owner didn't cover his ass well enough. Plus the fool was running all this on us soil. To be completely honest though, I smell something fishy about how the whole thing went down. I guarantee someone with some political power had their hands in it.
 

Mr.Head

Well-Known Member
Arstechnica reported on a massive influx in Tor users and it basically said if the USA Government had enough nodes on TOR they could track anyone on the network. I'll try and find the articles here they are from a while ago.

I don't believe for 2 seconds they are being honest in how they caught him, I believe they went above and beyond what they were allowed to do to catch a guy spitting in their face. But that's my opinion :) DEA needs these busts right now more then ever.
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Then I have to log in again I don't feel comfortable about entering my password and username into another website. Wouldn't it look more suspicious if your ip was bouncing around? I'm a medical marijuana patient anyway do you still think i should? Isn't the damage already done?
Then I have to log in again I don't feel comfortable about entering my password and username into another website. Wouldn't it look more suspicious if your ip was bouncing around? I'm a medical marijuana patient anyway do you still think i should? Isn't the damage already done?
You wont login via another site it will bring you to this site it just routes you through some other servers that use dynamic ips that roll so your isp assigned one for your service isnt a direct line. If your legal then no big deal still lots of us not that lucky yet lol
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
And when you proxy jump and go threw all these steps to hide who you are you raise a tonne more red flags that are a hell of a lot more suspicious then signing into a pot forum.

You want to be caught growing pot using "the same methods as terrorists" ? LoL I think not.

The American government operates under if you have nothing to hide you won't hide. If they can hack TOR which they have successfully that's how they caught the silk road guy, they can figure out every single person on here no problem. You're not making it harder on them you're making it harder on yourself. There's no hiding from the Government if they want you, they have too much money to spend and don't care how big of a waste it is.

That said don't do stupid shit in public I agree with that, take it to PM :) Which if they wanted to they could have access in 5 seconds.
No using proxies doesn't raise red flags lol That's paranoia. It doesn't raise red flags. You have to be already be watched for them to think anything of it. They really don't spend that much time on random hits but lets say you post things on here that oh no so legal and local LEO sees the posts and maybe a clue to where you from. Its not to hard for them to look behind the scenes to find a standard static ip address. hell i can do it with not a ton of effort. If you use the proxies your basically just going to a proxy site and using their server routers to come to the site. This makes it more difficult as once your through the proxy site it constantly rolls and changes the ip address tying your machine to an ip trail so it takes anyone following on a ride of hunting down dozens of possible ips from different states countries and servers. Yes if the feds for some reason where looking to directly get you they have some guys who could sit and find you eventually. Using proxies on its own though has no red flags as many many millions use proxies daily for normal situations. The idea is to make it as time consuming and cost inefficient as possible as they wont waste too much time for pot growers unless already being investigated or believed to be a large scale operator ie hundred to millions of lbs being moved with money laundering or cross border transfers. In the silk road case they got him through multiple ways. His site openly traded illegally and was moving money everywhere. He had accounts for money personal, and then he didn't use the right servers in the right places which allowed warrants and confiscation. What they did was get enough to get the needed warrants to quiet access the servers he used then just watched the ips followed payment routing then to banks. Then from that they followed withdraws, deposits and ownership info so he basically got lazy. he was a big wanted dog though for how much money the site was doing. This site is nothing like that. This site does have LEO on it watching reading and taking notes but not to that extent. If you have a pretty basic knowledge of internet routing, traffic and server source code generation you can see how to disrupt direct paths. To each there own but as someone in IT networking its something I have grown pretty familiar with . Multi dynamic proxies and off site image hosting via multiple proxy slow things down and it costs to much to go after smaller folks but don't make it easy for them.Plus Roll will not allow you to remove your images or close your account in a legal need to basis as it takes content from the site which he uses just to earn ad money from so our safty isn't a concern to the site so we have to watch our own asses especially since he has the site set to be spidered by the search engines all posts come up in plain old google at a high listing in the ranking in the SEO searches.
 

Mr.Head

Well-Known Member
No using proxies doesn't raise red flags lol That's paranoia. It doesn't raise red flags. You have to be already be watched for them to think anything of it. They really don't spend that much time on random hits but lets say you post things on here that oh no so legal and local LEO sees the posts and maybe a clue to where you from. Its not to hard for them to look behind the scenes to find a standard static ip address. hell i can do it with not a ton of effort. If you use the proxies your basically just going to a proxy site and using their server routers to come to the site. This makes it more difficult as once your through the proxy site it constantly rolls and changes the ip address tying your machine to an ip trail so it takes anyone following on a ride of hunting down dozens of possible ips from different states countries and servers. Yes if the feds for some reason where looking to directly get you they have some guys who could sit and find you eventually. Using proxies on its own though has no red flags as many many millions use proxies daily for normal situations. The idea is to make it as time consuming and cost inefficient as possible as they wont waste too much time for pot growers unless already being investigated or believed to be a large scale operator ie hundred to millions of lbs being moved with money laundering or cross border transfers. In the silk road case they got him through multiple ways. His site openly traded illegally and was moving money everywhere. He had accounts for money personal, and then he didn't use the right servers in the right places which allowed warrants and confiscation. What they did was get enough to get the needed warrants to quiet access the servers he used then just watched the ips followed payment routing then to banks. Then from that they followed withdraws, deposits and ownership info so he basically got lazy. he was a big wanted dog though for how much money the site was doing. This site is nothing like that. This site does have LEO on it watching reading and taking notes but not to that extent. If you have a pretty basic knowledge of internet routing, traffic and server source code generation you can see how to disrupt direct paths. To each there own but as someone in IT networking its something I have grown pretty familiar with . Multi dynamic proxies and off site image hosting via multiple proxy slow things down and it costs to much to go after smaller folks but don't make it easy for them.Plus Roll will not allow you to remove your images or close your account in a legal need to basis as it takes content from the site which he uses just to earn ad money from so our safty isn't a concern to the site so we have to watch our own asses especially since he has the site set to be spidered by the search engines all posts come up in plain old google at a high listing in the ranking in the SEO searches.
I wouldn't trust a proxy service to hide my torrents. It's not very time consuming to send a request for information or put one of those fancy property of USA government pages on their website and deny anyone access until they cooperate.

I certainly don't want to go to court for growing a few plants and have the prosecutor start trying to paint me as a terrorist for using those services. I'd rather just approach it like I've done nothing wrong and I'm growing my own medicine.

Money and time means nothing to law enforcement. They corrupted an entire government because the god damn MPAA asked them too, for a damn civil issue. If they want you they got you. Hiding does nothing but make you look more guilty, the American government has been on the Don't hide if you have nothing to hide for a while. It's like we've gone back in time but they replaced Commies with Terrorists.
 

jeff1

Active Member
Site has continued to have problems since 2014 for one reason or an other they're unable to process payment un acceptable in my eyes. I have been trying to order for a year now. I just went with a competitor.
 

MickFoster

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I have never had a problem with Attitude. Placed an order with them a couple of months ago using a credit card (you have to alert your bank that you are purchasing overseas or it gets declined) and it was delivered in 9 days to southeast U.S. 10 of the seeds that I ordered didn't germinate - the other 20 did with no problem. I sent them an e-mail and they responded promptly explaining that seeds are sold as souvenirs and they would not discuss germination, however they would contact the breeder with my problem. Yesterday I received 10 new seeds. They are OK in my book.
 
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