What's the best way to set up a 20x20 greenhouse?

justugh

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Hi, I'm a first timer indoor. How would u suggest setting up a 20x20 greenhouse??
a whole 20x20 is going to cost a bit of money

now first off is this a real greenhouse (glass walls to allow sun shine in ) this matters on the light and the strain types

other then that it is fairly simple depending on what u want to go HID or LED (hids need more air flow/AC to keep area cool)
your going to need 16 1000w hids to fully cover the area .......or 16 600w LED

now are u sealing the room and adding Co2 or are u going with a exchange system

next part after that is the media your going to use .......soil or hydro


once u answer those i can help u design it ......it will be fun
 

Fadedlady

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Right on friend. I'm not using the entire thing initially. 30 plants to start. I'm leaning towards HID but nit sure. I know nothing about LED. So far done alot of research on HID. I want max yield and so I think T5 is out. What about cfl?
 

justugh

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Right on friend. I'm not using the entire thing initially. 30 plants to start. I'm leaning towards HID but nit sure. I know nothing about LED. So far done alot of research on HID. I want max yield and so I think T5 is out. What about cfl?
CFLs are out due to the fact the light is only effective for 12 to 16 inches ......and as u increase the number of bulbs the heat increase at double the pace

if u are leaning to hids .......read up on the new Double Ended bulbs......they do get a higher amount then the SE (single end) and use the power more effectively (at the least u should buy a ballast that is able to handle both SE and DE bulbs to save yourself money later if u go that way)

30 plants .......i give my plants a 2.5x2.5 foot print so 4 plants in a 5x5 area that means 1 1000w hid (great in 5x5 good in 6x6) so u are looking at 6 1000w lights

double ends are newiss so they do not have many hood types for air cooling i have only seen 1 8inch double end air cooled hood....so unless u want to get those and 3 8in fans your going to need to have a massive cooling system in the room to handle the heat from the bulb and the IR it makes on the plants
 

Fadedlady

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Can someone please help me out with a different matter? I trimmed and put my first outdoor grow in jars today. They've been in a few hours. They'reat 81% humidity. Should I burp them, take them out for awhile??. I was told u keep the jars closed the first 24 hours then told different. What should I do?
 

Fadedlady

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CFLs are out due to the fact the light is only effective for 12 to 16 inches ......and as u increase the number of bulbs the heat increase at double the pace

if u are leaning to hids .......read up on the new Double Ended bulbs......they do get a higher amount then the SE (single end) and use the power more effectively (at the least u should buy a ballast that is able to handle both SE and DE bulbs to save yourself money later if u go that way)

30 plants .......i give my plants a 2.5x2.5 foot print so 4 plants in a 5x5 area that means 1 1000w hid (great in 5x5 good in 6x6) so u are looking at 6 1000w lights

double ends are newiss so they do not have many hood types for air cooling i have only seen 1 8inch double end air cooled hood....so unless u want to get those and 3 8in fans your going to need to have a massive cooling system in the room to handle the heat from the bulb and the IR it makes on the plants
I think I'm going LED. After more research. What do u suggest? Also can u read my last post please??? I'm a 50 year old lady looking to spread the love and pay it forward, also trying desperately to find a strain for anxiety and for pain. I have some serious medical issues and I can't find a strain that doesn't give me panic attacks.
 

justugh

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Can someone please help me out with a different matter? I trimmed and put my first outdoor grow in jars today. They've been in a few hours. They'reat 81% humidity. Should I burp them, take them out for awhile??. I was told u keep the jars closed the first 24 hours then told different. What should I do?
leave the jars open have a fan blow across them ........keep them in least humid place u have (81% is horrible u have to lower the jars to 60 or under ).....u did do it 7 days layed out or 10/12 days hung upside down before u jarred (that area controlled to 50%RH)
 

Fadedlady

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I didn't actually. I wet trimmed and hung for 5 days. They're dry to touch and the tems bent to just snap. Should I out then in my hanging rack?
 

Fadedlady

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I went into this with an experienced growers who bailed on me. Since joining the forum I've had amazing help every step. I git to this point and everyone had their stuff to do and not on the forum so I'm singing it and feel like a moron. I need help before I think this gorgeous weed. I have another thread under outdoor titled , my plants lost their smell 2 weeks into Bloom, any ideas. There's tons of pics and the guys were phenomenal. I just got to this phase and everything I'm reading said it was time to cure. The stems snap like Jorge says. But I'm lost, please help a sister out
 

justugh

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I didn't actually. I wet trimmed and hung for 5 days. They're dry to touch and the tems bent to just snap. Should I out then in my hanging rack?
get a window screen from the house ......take warm water to it and wash/dust off

set the screen lvl so air can pass on it then lay out your stuff on that for 3/4 days ........u want to let air pass around it but u need to control the air humidiy (40-60 is safe zone 50% is the golden number)
set it up in a room that has as little light as possible ......RH in 40/60.......air movement

u have jarred it wet good chance it can mold what i told u save it
 

Fadedlady

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I have a hanging rack. Should I put in on there?? How do I control the humidity?? I have 3 plants hanging since yesterday and now I'm lost! Just an old hippie lady trying to figure this out.
 

justugh

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I went into this with an experienced growers who bailed on me. Since joining the forum I've had amazing help every step. I git to this point and everyone had their stuff to do and not on the forum so I'm singing it and feel like a moron. I need help before I think this gorgeous weed. I have another thread under outdoor titled , my plants lost their smell 2 weeks into Bloom, any ideas. There's tons of pics and the guys were phenomenal. I just got to this phase and everything I'm reading said it was time to cure. The stems snap like Jorge says. But I'm lost, please help a sister out

see with hanging u need to give it about 10/12 days because the water in the plants are going tho the buds....but u are making the tops of it get all the water ...so the stuff that was lower feels dryer then mass of it is

if u lay it down it gets a more even dry in 7 days
 

Joedank

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Can someone please help me out with a different matter? I trimmed and put my first outdoor grow in jars today. They've been in a few hours. They'reat 81% humidity. Should I burp them, take them out for awhile??. I was told u keep the jars closed the first 24 hours then told different. What should I do?
80% is way high . open and dump contents , then let rest for an hour or 2 . then rejar ...
check out hoopbenders.net for a 20 ft pipe bender ....
this is my home bent hooper going up.
http://rollitup.org/t/pheno-hunting-for-this-season.861527/
thats my thread come on over and ask away .
 

justugh

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I have a hanging rack. Should I put in on there?? How do I control the humidity?? I have 3 plants hanging since yesterday and now I'm lost! Just an old hippie lady trying to figure this out.
it is easy just use a dehumiditer in the area the plants are drying .......that will lower the RH most of them are number setting if u set for 5 it will keep it where u need it
 

Fadedlady

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80% is way high . open and dump contents , then let rest for an hour or 2 . then rejar ...
check out hoopbenders.net for a 20 ft pipe bender ....
this is my home bent hooper going up.
http://rollitup.org/t/pheno-hunting-for-this-season.861527/
thats my thread come on over and ask away .
I can't open it , it has a red x across it and won't open up. Can't I out them in my hanging rack.? It's got the 5 screen racks that attach.
 

Fadedlady

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Also I trimmed heavy before I hung on these, like an idiot. So don't they dry faster?? I keep getting hung on the fact the stems snap sound??
 

justugh

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I can't open it , it has a red x across it and won't open up. Can't I out them in my hanging rack.? It's got the 5 screen racks that attach.
if u are talking about something like this
http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-Collapsible-Hydroponic-Drying/dp/B00WXTCAPO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1445221535&sr=8-4&keywords=dry+rack

yes use that .......u will get a more even drawl
u can hang it in a closet........use a small bathroom dehumidifer and a fan that moves around on the floor
 
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