What's the deal with Lowe's and Home Deopot HPS and metal halides?

lopezri

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So I had gone to the hydro shop the other day and took a look at their lighting set ups to get an idea about what the cost is. Then I go to Lowe's and Home Depot and find that if you know a little something about electrical work you could probably just buy your own stuff to put something together, right? I mean, they sell the fixtures and the bulbs.

Am I missing something here? Why are they so expensive at the hydro shop? or online? So could I get a can fan cheaper at lowes and hd too?
 

dhhbomb

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well idk if tehy sell the ballast kits at lowes or home depot then you can make your own but its not like a normal light bulb
 

JeepBeep

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Yeah with a little know how you can sureley make it your self. All the lighting I do it one off put-together stuff. I usualyy will only get the refelctor from a shop because its dependants on the space you got.

But as the ballast abd buld yes you can do it yourself.

The reasons why the pre built one cost more is because they come in a nice pre molded case with nice switching on it ectt.

your paying for the little goodies and easy factor.



So I had gone to the hydro shop the other day and took a look at their lighting set ups to get an idea about what the cost is. Then I go to Lowe's and Home Depot and find that if you know a little something about electrical work you could probably just buy your own stuff to put something together, right? I mean, they sell the fixtures and the bulbs.

Am I missing something here? Why are they so expensive at the hydro shop? or online? So could I get a can fan cheaper at lowes and hd too?
 

Ap0c0leS

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Forget this entire post i didnt read what you typed correctly. I dont think lowes would have the ballasts you need. Their HPS lights are for shit like street lamps def not plants. You can get the fans and ducting from lowes and home depot. Look in the heating and AC section and you will see 4 6 and 10 inch inline fans that can be used.. i use two together to aircool my light. They also have the flexable ducting and all types of ducting adapters incase you need that type of thing. They also have the clasps you may need for your appropriate size ducting


Oh and like the guy above said... get yourself a nice reflector depending on what you need.. A nice aircooled square hood, or a cool tube.. It all depends on your setup and what watt light your using
 

robert 14617

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How do I convert a home security light into a remote ballast grow light
How do I convert a home security light into a remote ballast grow light ?

For some reason growlight manufacturers are completely ignoring the small, personal grower. A quick look around Overgrow and you can see some very respectable bud being grown under 150's, and even 70 watt HPS lights. But the smallest ready made remote ballast growlight you can buy is a 250 watter, and they usually cost well over $150 (US).

So, as usual in the medicinal herb growing world, you need to take matters into your own hands.

Here’s how to turn a 150 watt HPS security light available at most Home improvment stores, into a nice remote-ballast grow light.



Materials & Tools:

MATERIALS
Regent GT150H, (About $79)
Heavy Duty extension cord of suitable length
One heavy duty grounded electrical plug end (male)
Electrical box
Electrical box plate
Romex cable connectors (3)
Wire nuts
Bolts, nuts washers
Strip of metal to secure ballast
Project case from Radio Shack ($6.99) #270-253A

TOOLS
5/16 nut driver (for removing parts from the casing -- regular pliers will work)
Philips head screwdriver
Regular screwdriver
Hammer
Power drill and assorted bits
Metal file
Wire cutters
Utility knife or wire stripper
Diagonal Pliers
Pliers

Wiring Diagram
Be careful...



Remove guts

Remove the guts from the casing - bulb socket, ignitor, light sensor socket, ballast. The ballast was glued to the casing. I heated the casing for a couple of minutes on an oven burner (high), and when it was getting too hot to hold, I put it on the floor and wedged a hammer between the ballast and casing and popped it out gently.



REMOVE LIGHT SENSOR

These security lights are designed to automatically turn on when it gets dark, so there is a built in light sensor that needs to be removed.

Remove all wire nuts.

Disconnect the white wire that comes out of the sensor (currently connected to all 3 other white wires).

Disconnect the black wire that comes out of the sensor (currently connected to the black “power in” wire).

The red wire coming out of the sensor is currently connected to the black wire coming out of the ballast. Remove the red wire, and then connect the black wire coming out of the ballast to the black “power in” wire.

Reattach wire nuts (there were 5 originally, now you only need 4).

Refer to the wiring diagram!



WIRE THE SOCKET

The socket on this particular light had some metal wiring connectors that stuck up and made it impossible to attach to the electrical plate without some modification (sorry no photo). Just pull the black and white wires off of the connectors, and cut the connectors down flush with socket base with diagonal pliers. Now loosen the connectors (screws inside the socket), slip the wires under them and tighten them back down. Please use some plastic electrical tape on the end of the socket to prevent any chance of the metal from the connectors making contact with the electrical box cover plate.

Secure the cord in the electrical box with a romex cable connector and wire it to the socket: black to black, white to white, secure with wire nuts. Some electrical boxes have a green screw inside to fasten ground wires, use that if yours has one, otherwise fasten the green ground wire to the box using one of the cover plate screws when you tighten the cover plate.



WIRE THE REMOTE BALLAST

Hopefully you can see the wiring clearly in the photo, but if not, refer to the wiring diagram for details.

You’re going to have to cut some holes in the Radio Shack project box for the power cords and some bolts to hold the ballast, ignitor and ground wires down.

I used a short length of metal (plumbing department) to secure the ballast. The ignitor had a notch that made it easy to bolt down. The ground wires from both electrical cords are screwed to the base of the box.

Cut a short length off the socket (female) end of the extension cord and wire it appropriately (again - see diagram). Wire the remaining electrical cord, including the grounded male plug to the other end of the box.

Use a tie wrap to bundle up the wires in the box and try to keep them away from the ballast, which will heat up during use.



TEST IT!
If you've done everything right, it should light.



Now, build a reflector and you’ve got a nice little custom grow light.

Safety Warnings:
Always wire the male plug to the bulb socket and the female receptacle to the ballast to avoid possible electrocution! Always use an all metal project box which already has ventilation cooling slots, or if your project box has none, please cut adequate cooling slots, or drill several vent holes in the ballast enclosure (project box) to allow the heat to escape the box. Not adding the cooling slots or holes, could result in failure of the insulation and/or the transformer. Also, please be sure the enclosure is located in a well ventilated area to aid cooling.
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Ap0c0leS

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Well that looks fairly simple ( sarcasm ) .. I guess im just one of those guys that kinda goes for the easy factor. Its good to know that we dont have to be raped by the grow stores though, thanks! plus rep
 
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