Whats the general understanding of bagseed sex?

Peace all. Been a long time since I've been on the site and doing my thing. Anyway good to be back and learning again.

My query is what is the general rule as to how U get and use because. I may not have worded it correctly, but lemme just ask this from one of U get bagseed growers.....

I had gotten a qp from one of my connects in 2014 and the bud was supposed to be Sour OG (i think as I smoke way too much I can't recall og sour or sour og). Bud was great bud and me being a Sour D smoker was loving it and always requested and got it. This one time when I pick up this qp ( one of many at that time of that strain) I caught right off that there were beans! This never happened before with the person ( not a grower only dealer) and they got it from the same person as times before. Now lemme give U some insight on when I say "beans!" above. I mean I found HUNDREDS, good, bad, and undeveloped. Now as I said it has never happened before with this person when they got it from the same person as always.

My thought was just to save and see. I did start some a couple years ago and they were going but I had to kill them cuz the power was crazy high. Therefore I never got to see what I would get. Recently I decided to rety with a few. They haven't gotten near the point of sex yet but it's only 2 and I just wanna know what every1 else thinks. My thought is that I may have ran across a person who missed a male in the grow or was doing a seed run but had no other bud to sell when customers came ( I mean this is what I hope happen either one is cool,lol). But what I have read when I have searched the threads are ppl saying that if U find a lot of seeds in a bag that U got they are prolly hermie. This was a qp and I wonder would that be same rule so to speak. It was too much for me to think it was a hermie, although I did read a dude said he had a light leak and had a whole crop of seeds from the result. Anyway, any1 have any first hand knowledge? Thanks for reading. PEACE

I don't know, it seems like it'd be really hard to flat out miss a male, my guess is a hermie snuck in and pollinated the room. If it's outdoor than it could be male pollen blown in. Hell, dude could have been doing a seed run to preserve the genetics. I say it's worth it to grow out and see.

Southerner said:

I don't know, it seems like it'd be really hard to flat out miss a male, my guess is a hermie snuck in and pollinated the room. If it's outdoor than it could be male pollen blown in. Hell, dude could have been doing a seed run to preserve the genetics. I say it's worth it to grow out and see.

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thanks for the response. Yes it would be nice to know if it was in or outdoor. Really smelly and sticky but it was yrs ago and I cant ever be to sure. I will be only growing out a small few atm and see what happens. They will only be vegged for a few weeks tho. But even with a hermie chances are that I can still get a female right? I have a good hundred or so left so finding the girls wont be a problem I think so long as I can tell..lol thats the problem I think. they may not tell until after lights off

Take a cutting from each one. Stick each in a glass of water. Or a tall shot glass. Throw em in a closet with a light and timer. A cfl will work. They'll show without being rooted.
He probably had a run that was pollinated and just kept on going business as usual.
I could see where it'd be hard to chop and start over that far in.

Ok. So is what it saying is that U too feel as it was just a hermie? and like U said too far gone to stop? Or are U saying that it may have been a run (seed run) that he had going but also needed the bud so as to get money?

Either way hermie or no, what do U all think ofthechances of a female that isn't hermie prone. Like I said I have at least a hundred or so more of these beans ( threw lots of immature away when selecting long ago, also used a good number of them in failed attempts at finding out sex), so popping 10 at a time just to run to find a female wouldn't be difficult to do, only time consuming but I wanna find out if I will be doing it in vain as I will never find a female only one that is or will be a hermie. Any1 can answer that from experience?

Thanks for the replies .... PEACE

EDIT: I was planning on doing the cutting thing but didn't know they would show sex without rooting. I will attempt that or I may just run the ones I have going and just make sure to take a cut and label beforehand.

Bump. I would like an answer from someone who has dealt with a good number of bagseed grows. I just wanna know, can I expect to see a true female at least even if it's a small percentage? Like in 10 beans can I at least expect to find a female? Also do hermies produce males? I was under the impression that they can only produce female and hermie. Any knowledge on this would be appreciated. Peace

BLACKMESSIAH7 said:

Bump. I would like an answer from someone who has dealt with a good number of bagseed grows. I just wanna know, can I expect to see a true female at least even if it's a small percentage? Like in 10 beans can I at least expect to find a female? Also do hermies produce males? I was under the impression that they can only produce female and hermie. Any knowledge on this would be appreciated. Peace

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The female plant making the female seed is the "hermie". Gynoecious rodelization.

A male can be made as an outcome from a "true" female, but it is exceedingly rare and often reported that offspring can be sterile...one of the only times I have heard of sterile cannabis, other than colchine.

Look at most hybrids today, they are the product of bagseed....Everything from cookies to chems to OG and Sours. C99 and blue dream and on and on and on.....
I would say bagseeds are NOT just limited to being herm's, which is rare in cannabis anyways, where a flower contains both male and female flower parts in the same location ,that is true hermaphrodite.

Abiqua said:

The female plant making the female seed is the "hermie". Gynoecious rodelization.

A male can be made as an outcome from a "true" female, but it is exceedingly rare and often reported that offspring can be sterile...one of the only times I have heard of sterile cannabis, other than colchine.

Look at most hybrids today, they are the product of bagseed....Everything from cookies to chems to OG and Sours. C99 and blue dream and on and on and on.....
I would say bagseeds are NOT just limited to being herm's, which is rare in cannabis anyways, where a flower contains both male and female flower parts in the same location ,that is true hermaphrodite.

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So it's safe to assume that regardless I will get female plants. This is what I thought and have read such, but having no 131st hand knowledge I can't say. Like a good question for U or any1 who can answer.....How do U know it is a hermie? Will the preflowers show such or is it only during flower that I will know for sure? Having no actual knowledge of hermie traits firsthand, I can't tell when I will be able to see.
Do they only show after female flowers are present or can they show by themselves. Like when I change the photoperiod after a couple weeks they will show sex. Will it be at this time I will be able to see a hermie or would I have to wait a few weeks into flower?

Regardless of the answers I recieve, I will do the best I can to keep a log of what happens so as to provide some knowledge to others who may need it. I have grown for years off and on and I still can't say for sure what will happen. Therefore I feel that the more we research the better for ALL of us and not just "newbies".

Peace

Thank U for the reply btw