What's the worst strain and breeder you've dealt with?

ibitegirls said:

sanniesshop is killing me right now. ordered on the 3rd Jan. and still nothing. maybe their just super slow to the west coast

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mine have taken a bit as well...but worry not you will get them or he will send again....solid guy he is for sure....

nirvana's white widow.
nirvanas reg seeds gave me tons of hermies.
their fems had tons of mutations.
their white widow looked good, gave big buds, BUT they didnt weigh shit and didnt have that great of a taste. WORST munchies ever too...

Kite High said:

mine have taken a bit as well...but worry not you will get them or he will send again....solid guy he is for sure....

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true. i should wait it out. i wonder why his delivery carriers are so damn slow compared to attitude. tude got me my stuff in about 18 days and it was misrouted to another city and still arrive quicker LOL. needless to say, my location is a disadvantage so i will probably not order very much from sannie.i wish his strains were available through the tude, that would be awesome!!

his come thru the Netherlands is why....but dude his gear is worth it and he is a truly a great dude...and heres a place with great prices and rock solid people too,,,they are on the border on NL and Belgium so it comes from theBelgium post so no "hmmm's" like the NL addy's cause

http://growshopalien.com/onlineshop/contents/en-uk/d40_cannabisseedsseedbank.html

TGA was the worst seeds I ever got I was really stoked about Pandora's box I guess the had a good add or something she was a very small seedy hermaphrodite all 10 seeds ...The jack 2 or whatever they called it also got a lot of bananas..i grew them right next to my clones that did fine and did not hermie so knew there wasn't light leaks just bad genetics ....T

Well worst strain/cross I've dealt with from a breeder was from a couple but off the top of my head

Ghs arjans ultra haze. Was just weak..big bat cola that took 11 to 12 weeks to flower and was garbage.
Although I grew some slh and bubbba kush from ghs and those came out better than expected def would run slh again.

Dna connie chong was again weak but that could've been my fault at that time in the grow but kushberry I got from them was good just a couple hermied at seperate times. I got a og kush 18 I'm adding to my grow soon and I want to try some of their new og crosses(I'm a og head lol).

The worst seeds I ever grew by far were from beanho (beanhoarder). I did a 20 pack each of blockhead x paki chitral kush, haze x deep chunk, and mango x ssh. The blockhead grew extremely slow,very small and stunted looking..wouldnt take nutrients without slowing down even further. Some of the mango x ssh hermed,and the haze x deep chunk was just some low end regs..no frost or odor,potency was weak. That was a few years ago,Ive heard some people having success with his gear so maybe he's gotten better,but my experience was all stress.

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bummer. i was thinking of trying their trippy cherry super silver chitral. it sounds like what i wastrying to do with malawi gold and buddha's sister, and possibly something good to mix in with those.

Kosher Kush from Reserva Privada - that they are still selling those hermied motherfuckers is criminal!

killing fields

puffntuff said:

The only strain I grew out that I didn't care for was DNA's shark breath it was bitchy with the nutes and took forever to bloom. I finally got pissed after 84 days and chopped her.

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haha I was thinking about some shark breath cuz it's the only strain I've seen where I could have lambsbread... I would just prefer to have straight lambsbread.

Kinda sucks TH Seeds has a bad rep in this thread... I got 2 reg MK Ultra and 2 reg Lambo freebies I will be growing at some point. Kinda wonder if Lambo has lambsbread cuz it has jamaican haze and jamaican purple.

I grew some G13 Labs Sour AK that wasn't that great and had low frost and harvested at 11 weeks and it still wasn't ready (I had to move). To be honest, it was probably my setup/skills/light leaks.

Kite High said:

mine have taken a bit as well...but worry not you will get them or he will send again....solid guy he is for sure....

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I'll vouch for him too. Message him and he will make sure you're sorted out.

tree king said:

killing fields

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Worst? Why?

Mine were amazing, great taste, great smell - and trippy as all hell. Equal best I've grown.

Bigby said:

Worst? Why?

Mine were amazing, great taste, great smell - and trippy as all hell. Equal best I've grown.

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ive debated that with too many people on this site already so dont wanna get into it again but the highs weak and the buds are airy

I've been pretty lucky when it comes to genetics. It seems like anything I've tried from the low key or little known breeders I have been satisfied with . Kannabia, Homegrown Fantaseeds, Ceres, Emerald Triangle, Magus (part of Serious Seeds now) have all been good to be.

It seems like anything I've grown from the big guys have ben mediocre at best. For example, I grew a single Sensi Super Skunk last year and don't get me wrong, it was a decent plant. No mold, finished early, and wasn't picky with the nutes. But it didn't get very big, had poor branching, and not much in terms of flavor or smell. There was nothing "skunky" about it. The year before I grew out a single Kannabia Special freebie. Now THAT was a skunky plant. Much better yield, finished around the same time, no mold, hardy, low maintenance, and just an all around better plant.

Reserva Privada is another big name breeder I didn't really care for. Last year I grew out a single Sour Kush (Headband) freebie. For starters, RP advertises it as mostly indica, but this plant looked mostly sativa to me. I had nothing but trouble with it. Very picky eater, the bugs loved it, grew weak and lanky, and didn't start flowering until the middle of August. To be fair, it was one of my plants that got ripped last year, so I didn't actually get to try any, but when it got ripped 1st week of October it still had a good 2-3 weeks of flowering left. The Emerald Triangle Lost Coast OG plant I had 6 feet away totaly blew it out of the water.

I realize only growing single seeds doesn't give much of a sample size to properly judge a strain. However, over the past few years I've grown out around 30 or 40 plants from seed. The overall trend seems to favor the obscure "no-name" breeders. I have pics of every strain I've grown if anyone is interested.

I'm going to run a fem ghs slh next grow despite this thread. I've smoked 2 different bags of slh. The first one tasted really good and got me and my girl in a happy fuck off day time mood. The second bag was the most flavorful fucking shit I have ever smoked, but potency and high seemed average.

It's my girl's favorite strain though and I like it too. Seen lots of good slh grows on RIU, hope I don't get pheno fucked.

barneys farm.0 customer service 2/7 germ rate .

I fucking hate breeders who dont respond to emails.This includes barneys farm ,thseeds and dna genetics for me.Barneys farm also has shit germ rates for me 2 out of 7, So i'm done with them.Can't say i am done with dna though ,they do have amazing stuff

Kite High said:

Cannabiogenmdestroyer is delish as well as Positronics hg...check out destroyer ^^and Cannalope Haze by DNA, Killing Fields is on deck for the near future

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i'll smoke what you're growing! i ALMOST bought a destroyer bean, but, like so many great smoking sativa dominants like killing fields, it has a violent name i don't like, so i got another ace seeds NL5 columbian to test instead, though i've had terrible luck with that strain so far and will give it one last try. i swear some fucker sabotages every fucking sativa i try to grow! i had mutants with both malawi gold and columbian recently when the malawi, at least, was 100% just last year, and got 0% viability out of both jack's cleaner 2 x cindy apollo & a CH9 jack cross despite good viability from almost everything else i've crossed.

i wish killing fields and jack the ripper weren't celebrations of murder in name. those are 2 of the trippiest indoor strains according to reports, but i have sannie's jack f7 to test, more cleaner 2 on the way, and some malawi gold left i'm still eager to test.

i do want to try cannalope haze, only it's a little "expensive" for my tastes. it's reasonably priced, but i want to try cheaper gear first. i'll likely get it in the future though as attitude just made my FoaD list after selling me kannabia citrus described as a sativa when it's really a bubblegum chitral, and they don';t feel responsible for baiting and switching on me, so i'll be returning to gypsy and hemp depot probably besides ordering direct from sannies and mandala.

lately i've seen raves for destroyer, but back in '04, someoine was underwhelmed by it, but i'm starting to think that it's all just sativa hate from cash crapping losers like the pussy possee that stalks me here and the martian mean green grower in another forum. they'll do anything they can to keep anyone from going against their greedy flow and undermining the market they think is theirs.

i think when i DO grow columbian gold seriously, it will be gage green's "pure" gold, or his columbian jack cross if he ever releases it. those are my 2 favorite strains in the world so far, but maybe holy smokes' malawi will still deliver the goods.

I fucking hate breeders who dont respond to emails.This includes barneys farm ,thseeds and dna genetics for me.

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hmmmm... DNA responded to my request for a teeshirt that's just their logo, but not getting replies does suck. sometimes it takes a while to get replies from breeders though.

i hear you though, customer service should be ANY company's top priority.

hazey grapes said:

nope, never grown metal haze, but i've talked about it a few times. i THOUGHT it was dr atomic and got confused as the cannabible author really like doc atomic's NL5 haze a lot, but that's mostly only available from sketchy bans, but i still trust hemp depot where i got all of my joey weed gear from. i wish i remembered where i read that metal haze gets it's name from being grown under halides which DJ shorts and jorge cervantes would agree is the best light to use if you're after quality.

the "haziest" gear i've popped so far is fussy hermie bitch sativa seeds' full moon highland thai which i'm far from considering in the short term until i have head stash, but did get a very authentic delicious tutti fruity flavor out of the hermie microbuds when i cut that down and holy smokes' malawi gold which co-operates much more and at least in early flowering is way less stony. i'm going to put that up against HQS haze x skunk, sweet haze & jack's cleaner 2 and maybe WoS NL5 columbian if i can get my last bean to co-operate, to re-organize my top 5 while waiting for 8 miles high to return.

never tried metal haze, but i'd like to. wherever i read about it, was POSITIVE it was in cannabible, it was sibling to another NL5 haze that sounds less interesting to me as it's purer.

two haze equivalents that i've seen raves for are ace panama and golden tiger. i'd go for oldtimer'shaze and gage green's columbian gold though myself before those.

nope... never sampled metal haze, but did make a mental note on it years ago. i'm always keeping my ear open for rare suggestions of better strains, especially at the more practical hybrid end of the spectrum like the faves in my signature.

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Some awesomeness I am about to order I have recently stumbled upon

COLOMBIA MANGOBICHE
Bank: CannaBioGenHighly reputed colombian line due its tasty aromas and its long lasting and strong effect, Mangobiche, line of uncertain origins, is one of the few old lines which still survive in the country. Highly branched plants with large colas full of flowers. Mango fruit and spicy aromas. It has a potent effect, cerebral and trippy and bit mellow at the same time, confortable and exciting, which last few hours. A classic among the best colombians classics

Type: sativa
Flowering: 16-24 weeks
Yiedl: medium/high














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An excellent Zamal mother selected for its trippy effect, fast flowering and remarkable sweet carrot and floral fragrances, was pollinated by the powerful Malawi 'killer' mum in order to create Zamaldelica, a new super sativa hybrid of terrific lysergic effect and amazing vigorous growth.
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hazey grapes said:

i'll smoke what you're growing! i ALMOST bought a destroyer bean, but, like so many great smoking sativa dominants like killing fields, it has a violent name i don't like, so i got another ace seeds NL5 columbian to test instead, though i've had terrible luck with that strain so far and will give it one last try. i swear some fucker sabotages every fucking sativa i try to grow! i had mutants with both malawi gold and columbian recently when the malawi, at least, was 100% just last year, and got 0% viability out of both jack's cleaner 2 x cindy apollo & a CH9 jack cross despite good viability from almost everything else i've crossed.

i wish killing fields and jack the ripper weren't celebrations of murder in name. those are 2 of the trippiest indoor strains according to reports, but i have sannie's jack f7 to test, more cleaner 2 on the way, and some malawi gold left i'm still eager to test.

i do want to try cannalope haze, only it's a little "expensive" for my tastes. it's reasonably priced, but i want to try cheaper gear first. i'll likely get it in the future though as attitude just made my FoaD list after selling me kannabia citrus described as a sativa when it's really a bubblegum chitral, and they don';t feel responsible for baiting and switching on me, so i'll be returning to gypsy and hemp depot probably besides ordering direct from sannies and mandala.

lately i've seen raves for destroyer, but back in '04, someoine was underwhelmed by it, but i'm starting to think that it's all just sativa hate from cash crapping losers like the pussy possee that stalks me here and the martian mean green grower in another forum. they'll do anything they can to keep anyone from going against their greedy flow and undermining the market they think is theirs.

i think when i DO grow columbian gold seriously, it will be gage green's "pure" gold, or his columbian jack cross if he ever releases it. those are my 2 favorite strains in the world so far, but maybe holy smokes' malawi will still deliver the goods.

hmmmm... DNA responded to my request for a teeshirt that's just their logo, but not getting replies does suck. sometimes it takes a while to get replies from breeders though.

i hear you though, customer service should be ANY company's top priority.

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It's a straight hybrid derived from the 'killer' Malawi mother and a selected Meo Thai male. Meo Thai is an exceptional highland Thai selected by Cannabiogen.

In this hybrid, we have combined the 2 most potent and resinous landrace sativas we have ever worked with. The result is a plant with a great vegetative strength, remarkable for its overpowering potency and its exceptional floral traits. The flower bunches flare over forming
dense buds with small leaves. The trichomes are big, plentiful and loaded with powerful cannabinoids.
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Very elaborated hybrid of great potency and vegetative vigor. It produces beautiful, large, dense flowers full of trichomes often showing reddish and pinkish shades when flowering. Its aroma and effect are reminiscent of the best red Colombian and Panamanian sativas from the 70’s.
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i read in the new High times that high THCV production ins inherent and unique to African strains. I am going to acquire these reallt soon...this and the others in my previous post...I believe the TRIPPY GRAIL will be in my possession soon..That Panama is very trippy as well