whats this look like , please help

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could anyone tell me what the hell i'm doin to these poor things ? is this a nute def ? i haven't given it nutes , only a drop of superthrive per 2 cups of ph'd water @ every 5 days . grown from seed @ 30 days ago , oganicare pure earth soil . 1 65 w cfl 1 42 w cfl 2 23 w cfl . temps between 68 - 80 degrees F .lights @ 18/6 @ 8" from canopy ? the strain is doublegum from white label seed co. :wall:
 

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30 days!? damn, I say give that badboy some Nitrogen. And more light. never seen that b4, but it freaks me out. I guess it might be better than nute burn, my babies are looking haggard after I overfed...
 
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What might be considered to be good news is it appears that were leaves have fallen off new leaves are trying to grow so that tends to make me believe your plants are basically healthy and at least fairly vigorous and likely not as stressed as they appear to be.

It could be a possible N deficiency in that your leaves, not the dead ones, look somewhat light green to me but that could be the lighting and it could be your camera.
 
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It could be a possible N deficiency in that your leaves, not the dead ones, look somewhat light green to me but that could be the lighting and it could be your camera.
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nope thats not anything but the plant bro .
 
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:clap:just introduced some dutch masters grow part a with a 5-0-2.5 ratio , at 1 drop per 2 cups of h2o along with 1 drop of super thrive. thanks for the replies plus rep for all above . peace
 
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Tricks said:
Next time wait 7 days and not 30. By 30 days it kinda should look like this.
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true that...

hey, is two drops per cup gonna do enough? cause superthrive is a whole different ballgame in that respect. If you are hesitant to nute it up too early, try adding worm castings, guano, etc. to your soil before planting, or use foxfarms ocean forest and ride it out for two weeks MAXIMUM. Ganja fucking loves nitrogen, although probably less than I just gave mine. I am dumb :dunce: for nute burning, oh well.
 
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true that...

hey, is two drops per cup gonna do enough? cause superthrive is a whole different ballgame in that respect. If you are hesitant to nute it up too early, try adding worm castings, guano, etc. to your soil before planting, or use foxfarms ocean forest and ride it out for two weeks MAXIMUM. Ganja fucking loves nitrogen, although probably less than I just gave mine. I am dumb :dunce: for nute burning, oh well.
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I use FFOF and FF nutes and burned some of mine a couple days ago. There clawing a little, to much N. Thats what i get for trying to push it to the limit! 21 days flower and between 5-6 FT tall.
 

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tkufoS said:
It could be a possible N deficiency in that your leaves, not the dead ones, look somewhat light green to me but that could be the lighting and it could be your camera.
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I figured it was likely plants and not lighting but pictures taken under grow lights will not always show the true color so I offered the benefit of the doubt and figured maybe it was something else but it did look like a lack of N to me from what I could see. I just hate to flat out say when I can’t see the plants in person but instead say it like it seems to be or most likely is or possibly is etc.
 
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I use FFOF and FF nutes and burned some of mine a couple days ago. There clawing a little, to much N. Thats what i get for trying to push it to the limit! 21 days flower and between 5-6 FT tall.
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ok, damn wat strain is that? So w/ FFarms, do you do 1/2 strength the whole way or more? And whats your experience with big bloom, that shit is so not soluble.



BTW how did that runt turn out? did it respond well to the late nutes?
 
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Tricks said:
Next time wait 7 days and not 30. By 30 days it kinda should look like this.
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If by what you said that I made bold meant to feed new seedlings after seven days I hate to be so blunt as to appear to be rude but that is not at all good advice to give.

Seeds come with 2 to 3 weeks of nutrients in them for the seedlings to live off of and even then they are incapable of handling much nutrients at all without burning. I say that 4 weeks is the earliest that anyone should feed a seedling and then give it a one quarter solution at the strongest and from there slowly work up to full strength.

Now maybe I missed something and they did not come from seeds but instead were clones and since I have never messed with clones I cannot and will not say what I just wrote would apply. That would be something for someone with experience with them to tell you but when it comes to seedlings do not feed to soon.

It said said he went 30 days, which is 4 weeks, and they appear to be nutrient deficient. It may be the case since some strains are heavier feeders and maybe this strain is one that used up its supply from its seed faster than most will but I am not totally sure that is the case. It may be but I have never seen seedlings that were so deficient in nitrogen at such a young age and that makes me wonder if something else may be playing a part in what happened.

Sulfur deficiencies are often times confused with nitrogen deficiencies because it too will cause leaves to yellow. Normally it will happen on the top of a plant first so that makes it seem an unlikely candidate but then when dealing with a seedling or something slightly older there really isn’t much difference between the top and the bottom of a plant so it is still possible, not all that probable but yet possible.

A molybdenum deficiency can also cause yellowing since it is essential for nitrogen metabolism in plants. Now normally that shows up in the middle of a plant but again considering the size of the plants there is no real middle so if you have a molybdenum deficiency it could show up at the bottom first. And because it causes leaf yellowing it is another problem that is at times easily confused with a nitrogen deficiency.

Hopefully I am wrong and others are right and it is a simple nitrogen deficiency and by now the plants have been fed and they are looking much better but if they have been fed and they are not responding or not responding well the above might be things to consider.
 
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