What's wrong w my ladies?!

jmoneygrows

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Okay sunshine. They're covered with jizz now what?
No but seriously it cracks me up that you can definitively say it's not bleaching. Meanwhile anyone who googles it can see others saying hps does cause bleaching. But hey , you did this once with your specific strain so you must be right, right? Felix I like the DWC idea and will be doing it my next grow. This was recommend by my friend whose grown for years as coco, while more wrk, tends to be more forgiving. Mind telling me your feeding schedule with that system and nute line? That can't be what you're feeding all the way thru
 

mr sunshine

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Okay sunshine. They're covered with jizz now what?
No but seriously it cracks me up that you can definitively say it's not bleaching. Meanwhile anyone who googles it can see others saying hps does cause bleaching. But hey , you did this once with your specific strain so you must be right, right? Felix I like the DWC idea and will be doing it my next grow. This was recommend by my friend whose grown for years as coco, while more wrk, tends to be more forgiving. Mind telling me your feeding schedule with that system and nute line? That can't be what you're feeding all the way thru
I've grown over 200 plants now.. I've done it a few times.. no light bleaching, not even once.. I've grown many strains, I live in California so I can just go to the store and buy whatever clone I want for 10 bucks. I've stupidly sprouted seeds under a thousand watt before. They were fine, and green. Hps can burn, but as far as turn buds albino white,2017-04-13-11-21-01--1329870509.jpgfuck no that doesn't happen with hid.
 

nfhiggs

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nfhiggs i was using the cal mag from emerald harvest. i recently switched to calimagic i hear good things about it. your plant looks good man, is that a sativa strain? im guessing simply bc it looks tall and the nodes are spaced a bit further apart than mine are.
Yeah, its a Jack Herer.
I've grown over 200 plants now.. I've done it a few times.. no light bleaching, not even once.. I've grown many strains, I live in California so I can just go to the store and buy whatever clone I want for 10 bucks. I've stupidly sprouted seeds under a thousand watt before. They were fine, and green. Hps can burn, but as far as turn buds albino white,View attachment 3924071fuck no that doesn't happen with hid.
Your lack of a direct experience with a phenomena does not in any way negate other people's direct experience. This is like saying headaches don't exist because I've never had one.
 

mr sunshine

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Yeah, its a Jack Herer.

Your lack of a direct experience with a phenomena does not in any way negate other people's direct experience. This is like saying headaches don't exist because I've never had one.
Hids dont turn plants white, more yellow and burnt looking. Many people confuse it with nitrogen deficiency. But it definitely doesn't cause this.... that's leds.2017-04-13-11-21-01--1329870509.jpg...don't let my posts ruin your day.
 

nfhiggs

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Hids dont turn plants white, more yellow and burnt looking. Many people confuse it with nitrogen deficiency. But it definitely doesn't cause this.... that's leds.View attachment 3924303...don't let my posts ruin your day.
No, *your* HIDs have never turned *your* plants white. You experience is simply not the sum total of all growers. Your posts in no way affects my day, other than causing a slight amount of amusement at the level of your arrogance.
 

mr sunshine

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No, *your* HIDs have never turned *your* plants white. You experience is simply not the sum total of all growers. Your posts in no way affects my day, other than causing a slight amount of amusement at the level of your arrogance.
Lol...
 

jmoneygrows

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this cracks me up. But while we sit and and talk about whose got the bigger D, my ladies are anxiously waiting for answers. By the way sunshine. I admire your stubbornness. Reminds me of trump trying to debate. "Wrong! Nope wrong!"

If it's any 2 cents tho my hydro store peeps. Fantastic people reallly. Excellent growers. don't think its bleached buds. So clearly they're wrong too
 

Cx2H

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this cracks me up. But while we sit and and talk about whose got the bigger D, my ladies are anxiously waiting for answers. By the way sunshine. I admire your stubbornness. Reminds me of trump trying to debate. "Wrong! Nope wrong!"

If it's any 2 cents tho my hydro store peeps. Fantastic people reallly. Excellent growers. don't think its bleached buds. So clearly they're wrong too
Just out of curiosity: So you are pretty stuck on light bleaching?

Even though the people here and the hydro store people say no?
 

LetsGetCritical

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this cracks me up. But while we sit and and talk about whose got the bigger D, my ladies are anxiously waiting for answers. By the way sunshine. I admire your stubbornness. Reminds me of trump trying to debate. "Wrong! Nope wrong!"

If it's any 2 cents tho my hydro store peeps. Fantastic people reallly. Excellent growers. don't think its bleached buds. So clearly they're wrong too
sorry, didn't look at the picture/s but I have had light bleaching from hps
 

LetsGetCritical

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this cracks me up. But while we sit and and talk about whose got the bigger D, my ladies are anxiously waiting for answers. By the way sunshine. I admire your stubbornness. Reminds me of trump trying to debate. "Wrong! Nope wrong!"

If it's any 2 cents tho my hydro store peeps. Fantastic people reallly. Excellent growers. don't think its bleached buds. So clearly they're wrong too
everyone here knows that I have the biggest dick
 

jmoneygrows

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Hahaha you guys crack me the F up. I went and bought a lux lumen reader to be sure. The plants most affected by what I suspected with light burn we're showing a 1014. I take that to mean over 100k lumens.
It's my understanding you can get into trouble w over 85,000 lumens?
Reading light is completely new to me so I'm just going off a YouTube video and a chart here. Oh and I should say these numbers were AFTER scaling the watts down to 600.... am I doing this wrong bc I def know 600 watts is perfectly fine, especially aircooled and sealed.
Spacing is a 4x4x8 tent but considering the light Hangs just around 18" from
Biggest cola top.
 

nfhiggs

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Hahaha you guys crack me the F up. I went and bought a lux lumen reader to be sure. The plants most affected by what I suspected with light burn we're showing a 1014. I take that to mean over 100k lumens.
It's my understanding you can get into trouble w over 85,000 lumens?
Reading light is completely new to me so I'm just going off a YouTube video and a chart here. Oh and I should say these numbers were AFTER scaling the watts down to 600.... am I doing this wrong bc I def know 600 watts is perfectly fine, especially aircooled and sealed.
Spacing is a 4x4x8 tent but considering the light Hangs just around 18" from
Biggest cola top.
100K+ lux AFTER dialing it down is pretty extreme. Brightest summer sunlight hits about 120K, average sunlight is 80-100k, so yeah light burn is a definite possibility..

Edit: If you hit 101K at 600W, at 1000W you would have been topping 130K lux easily.
 
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jmoneygrows

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This is actually a reader for PAR as well, I believe between 400-700 nm.
Anyone use the quantum PaR meter by hydrofarm?
Yeah, the plant leaves that we're most damaged already feel less brittle and waxy. But we shall see. The problem
I have is I tend to change too many things at once and never seem to learn my damn lesson. Doing this properly is adjust one thing at a time and record any change/cross off the list. But hey the first step is admitting you have a problem, right?
One thing I also read is the newer the bulb, the stronger the light with hps. This is a new bulb for sure so I didn't factor that in. Any comments on that sunshine?
The guys at my store here in SoCal tell me it's "normal" that the white I'm seeing is new white hairs about to spring out. Does that seem about right at this point in the game? (15 day flower)
 

jmoneygrows

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LIke Holy shit man, half this stuff Im reading I cant make any sense of when it comes to PAR and micromoles... ALL I WANT TO KNOW is when I put this little reader out on top of each damn cola top... what is the IDEAL number going to read and at what point to we start to get into trouble?
 
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