What's Wrong with My Clones? First Time Grower. Please Help! Pics Attached

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alviso408

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PLEASE HELP IM A 1st TIME GROWER!! I do not know whats going on with my grow! I recently purchased 3 different clones from a local dispensary on May 1st an transplanted them to 1 GALLON POTS using FOX FARM OCEAN FOREST Soil. ALL 3 CLONES ARE OUTDOORS. IM LOCATED IN NORTHERN CALI (BAY AREA). The Strains from left To right on the first 3 pictures are: GRAND DADDY PURPLE, SAN FERNANDO VALLEY OG KUSH, And SWEET TOOTH. I have been watering only when water was needed, and have been stickin my finger in the soil double checking to see if it was fully dry. Ive been watering with bottled water (KIRKLAND SIGNATURE PREMIUM DRINKING WATER) i have only been watering until i see water drip out the bottom. i have been adding to a gallon of water BIO ROOT ROOT BOOSTER 1-1-1 from The GENERAL ORGANICS line. From the pictures i had seen online i thougt it was a nutrient burn that was burning my leafs so i flushed my SWEET TOOTH clone with 2 gallons of water with no bio root. but now the leafs on my SWEET TOOTH are starting to turn purlpleish with yellowish an brownish at the tips of the leafs. also know my GDP's Leafs are starting to turn yelllowish brown also. The only one that seem's to Be doing alrite is my San fernado valley OG its the only one that i have have noticed thats getting taller an is growing to lil leafs at the bottom of the stem. All clones except the SWEET TOOTH had big nice roots showing. WHAT SHOULD I DO?? I DONT WANT MY BABYS TO DIE WHAT DID I DO WRONG?? ANY HELP OR TIPS WOULD BE HIGHLY APPRICIATED!!
 
maps84

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That's a phosphorus (P) deficiency. Are you feeding only the root shit? because that's most likely it man
 
lambofgod

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I didnt even read the whole post.

dont put your clones in ocean forest...too strong.

you cant just toss clones outside. you need to harden them off. Stick them outside a couple hours a day for a week.
 
hoagtech

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Get a dome and fill the tray with your soil. My bud uses FFOF for clones and it works great. The dome is key and its only a 5 dollar investment
 
lambofgod

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hoagtech said:
Get a dome and fill the tray with your soil. My bud uses FFOF for clones and it works great. The dome is key and its only a 5 dollar investment
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IDK the last bag of ffof I purchased was so hot it burned 3 week old plants.

I'd put them in happy frog or light warrior first, or a mix of LW and FFOF.

I dont know the temps out there in cali right now.

I can tell you if you dont harden off clones the survival rate is cut in half if you just toss them outside. Specially at that size.
 
maps84

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lambofgod said:
there is NO WAY he needs to add anything to those, seeing as they are in ocean forest, and hes been giving them bioroot
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If that's the case they're not gonna make it! P def has gone so far that has K locked up along with other micro nutes. I'm not saying add this or add that, just what the leaves show which is very different of your general knowledge of how FF soil works.
 
budlover13

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lambofgod said:
IDK the last bag of ffof I purchased was so hot it burned 3 week old plants.

I'd put them in happy frog or light warrior first, or a mix of LW and FFOF.

I dont know the temps out there in cali right now.

I can tell you if you dont harden off clones the survival rate is cut in half if you just toss them outside. Specially at that size.
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Central Cali's good right now. Lows in the 60's. highs in the mid 80's. A clone can go straight outdoor here right now from what i've been told. Just starting my first outdoor crop.
 
lambofgod

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masp84 said:
If that's the case they're not gonna make it! P def has gone so far that has K locked up along with other micro nutes. I'm not saying add this or add that, just what the leaves show which is very different of your general knowledge of how FF soil works.
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well If thats the case, I'd start with making sure My ph is balanced, rather then feeding nutes to a plant thats been in soil full of nutes less then 2 weeks.
 
lambofgod

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budlover13 said:
Central Cali's good right now. Lows in the 60's. highs in the mid 80's. A clone can go straight outdoor here right now from what i've been told. Just starting my first outdoor crop.
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In the midwest 2 years ago I did a outdoor grow and didnt harden off my clones....half survived.

Last year in the midwest I did an outdoor grow and hardened off my clones....all survived.

This obviously can be due to weather conditions ect. ect.

I always start my garden plants indoors, and HAVE TO harden them off before putting them out in the garden. Thats just my experience. We have also been having 85, 90+ days as of lately.

Forgot to add:

mine looked exactly like OP's 2 years ago when I didn't harden them off......they where also in FFOF, but not started in FFOF
 
viralplague

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i have to agree with lamb of god here, they weren't hardened off and they're near death, put them on a window sill and baby them for a week and they might make it, i doubt its a nutrient deficiency with new soil at least it wouldnt be to the point where they would look like that, plus if you flushed them then you needn't worry about them burning after that
 
budlover13

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lambofgod said:
In the midwest 2 years ago I did a outdoor grow and didnt harden off my clones....half survived.

Last year in the midwest I did an outdoor grow and hardened off my clones....all survived.

This obviously can be due to weather conditions ect. ect.

I always start my garden plants indoors, and HAVE TO harden them off before putting them out in the garden. Thats just my experience. We have also been having 85, 90+ days as of lately.
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Good info to know. i vegged mine indoor for awhile, took clones, etc. before putting them out but i have a greenhouse under construction and am planning on going straight in with the ladies in another 1 1/2 weeks. Per the dispensary's rec but i am obviously aware that they are interested in selling the plant and everything else is on me. Maybe i'll let them gradually acclimate over a week or so. Thank you.
 
lambofgod

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budlover13 said:
Good info to know. i vegged mine indoor for awhile, took clones, etc. before putting them out but i have a greenhouse under construction and am planning on going straight in with the ladies in another 1 1/2 weeks. Per the dispensary's rec but i am obviously aware that they are interested in selling the plant and everything else is on me. Maybe i'll let them gradually acclimate over a week or so. Thank you.
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you are gravy with a greenhouse man. Id toss un rooted clones into a greenhouse lol.

It's just tossing them right out into the elements thats not so good.

Ever heard of wall-o-waters? or even putting a half cut milk jug over your new garden plants? its for the same purpose to protect such a young plant from pest, disease and other elements. Also to keep them warm during cold nights.

I should re phrase that. Wall-o-waters are mainly used to keep plants that desire a higher temperature warm during cold nights.
 
maps84

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lambofgod said:
well If thats the case, I'd start with making sure My ph is balanced, rather then feeding nutes to a plant thats been in soil full of nutes less then 2 weeks.
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Yes I agree, note I edited my post about fertilizing them a while ago
 
budlover13

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lambofgod said:
you are gravy with a greenhouse man. Id toss un rooted clones into a greenhouse lol.

It's just tossing them right out into the elements thats not so good.

Ever heard of wall-o-waters? or even putting a half cut milk jug over your new garden plants? its for the same purpose to protect such a young plant from pest, disease and other elements. Also to keep them warm during cold nights.
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Cool! We were thinking it might get too hot in there under the 110 degree sun in the summer so we are doing the sides with plastic and the top with the green mesh. But i have a ton of water jugs if they get too cold. i can't wait for my first outdoor harvest!!! What a cool early Christmas present!

12 Blue Dream going in the ground next weekend then!
 
lambofgod

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last year I grew the same LBOMB's that are in my signature, outdoors, we got an avg. of 1.6lbs per.

the year before when I didn't harden off, as I said only half survived, we got an avg of 8 zips per.

but there could definitely be other variables involved in the yield.

@masp I now notice you edited your post. I didn't mean to sound like I was arguing. But the first thing that came to mind is "flush before adding more".
 
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alviso408

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Thanks for all the replys. But the only reason I used fox farm soil was because in the dispensary I bought them at they already had starter plants in fox farm soil an plus the hydroponics store that I purchases the soil at the guy said I should start the plants in fox farm soil and later on to roots organic soil. An that it would be ok to add that bio root. The temperature has been in the low 50's an high 60's but has got as high as 74. An yes bio root is the only thing I have gave em but haven't gave em nothin since I flushed em. So what should I do know? Is it still too late to save them??
 
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