whats wrong with my plants??

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wizardof0z

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A week ago i setup my room and these girls seems all healthy. Room was all cleaned and sterilized before they went in. Now they look like they are all dying. What is wrong with my girls? I was told it could be russet mites, but ive been sprayin with neem and floramite as a preventative measure every 2-3 days bc i had spider mites in my last run. I was about to flip this room but now i cant as i want to make sure they are all healthy first. Also i started noticing the same problem in my veg room.

PLEASE help....any way to save these???
 

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Bernie420

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wizardof0z said:
A week ago i setup my room and these girls seems all healthy. Room was all cleaned and sterilized before they went in. Now they look like they are all dying. What is wrong with my girls? I was told it could be russet mites, but ive been sprayin with neem and floramite as a preventative measure every 2-3 days bc i had spider mites in my last run. I was about to flip this room but now i cant as i want to make sure they are all healthy first. Also i started noticing the same problem in my veg room.

PLEASE help....any way to save these???
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Your spraying crap on them too often for starters.
Look low on the mag.
Get some microbes in the soil
what are you feeding them, Nothing?
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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whats the info on the grow what lights what size pots how many plants? what ph are you feeding at what ppm?

From what I see they look crowded so your going to have that problem later on if these pics are the actual grow.

doing a few feedings with some epsom salt wont hurt (low ppms) adding microbes wont hurt.

adding some kelp in veg wont hurt either would some humic acid. That and microbes will make those micro nutrient deficiencies go away.
 
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In my veg room they are in smaller square pots under t5s. they are rammed together, but will not stay like that. cant remember the exact size of the pots. and those are fed with grow at a EC 1.2
The other bigger plants that were suppose to be ready to flip are under a 600 DE HPS. in 3 gallon pots. fed at 1.6-1.8 EC.

all are in soil fed with PH between 6.0-6.5
 
westcoast420

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You should not be spraying them that often. And I hope you are doing it with the light off and waiting till they dry before turning the light back on. Floramite should be used once maybe twice a few weeks apart. Did you read up on how to use that before you did? Doesnt sound like it if your spraying that often. Also you said your feeding them grow? is that a one part or are you just feeding them grow out of a 3 part feed program?
 
Tkm953

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You already have flowers on a few it looks like.Even looks like a herm in one picture.
 
westcoast420

westcoast420

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The heavily deformed leaves and nodes will not fix themselves, they are toast. You will have to wait for some new growth that hasnt been affected by spraying.
 
OldMedUser

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Looks mostly like spray damage than anything else. Some light bleaching might be going on some of those tops or severe lack of micro-nutes often caused by pH out of whack usually on the high side causing lockout.

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SPLFreak808

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Go over it with a strong loupe (100x), could simply be pesticide damage or a spider mite/russet cocktail, figure it out by process of elimination.

I use cold pressed neem at no more than 20ml/g, use it right after the lights shut off once every two weeks, 30ml/g for infestations.

@wizardof0z
 
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wizardof0z

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the ones that are toast will not grow buds? should i heavily top the plants and let them regrow if the unders are still fine?
 
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wizardof0z

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xtsho said:
I see signs of bugs and damaged from what you've been spraying on them.
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yes i had a spider mite problem at the beginning hence why i sprayed every 2-3 days. but i thought i had it under control before i moved them into their new room for flower...and i continued to spray as a preventative measure. i think i totally over did it with spraying and dont sure what i should do next.....i plan to let it veg more so hopefully new growth comes and i can flip in few weeks....just wondering if it is wise to top the damaged tops
 
xtsho

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wizardof0z said:
yes i had a spider mite problem at the beginning hence why i sprayed every 2-3 days. but i thought i had it under control before i moved them into their new room for flower...and i continued to spray as a preventative measure. i think i totally over did it with spraying and dont sure what i should do next.....i plan to let it veg more so hopefully new growth comes and i can flip in few weeks....just wondering if it is wise to top the damaged tops
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Leave the tops. That's where new growth will start growing. If you cut them you're just going to slow the plants down even more. You're definitely going to want to postpone flowering for now.

Also, in what looks like you have already put in your flower room you have a screen mesh over the plants as if trying to scrog. The plants look like they're just growing straight up through it. I see this all the time. The purpose of scrogging is to spread the plant out under the net. You need to train the plant under the net so it spreads out for an even canopy instead of just growing straight up through the net.

This isn't my picture just one I got off the internet but is a good example of scrogging.

 
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wizardof0z

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xtsho said:
Leave the tops. That's where new growth will start growing. If you cut them you're just going to slow the plants down even more. You're definitely going to want to postpone flowering for now.

Also, in what looks like you have already put in your flower room you have a screen mesh over the plants as if trying to scrog. The plants look like they're just growing straight up through it. I see this all the time. The purpose of scrogging is to spread the plant out under the net. You need to train the plant under the net so it spreads out for an even canopy instead of just growing straight up through the net.

This isn't my picture just one I got off the internet but is a good example of scrogging.

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yes i am going to be scrogging. most of the tops are already spread under the trellis for a even canopy, but some that are sticking out are still too short to be bent to the sides. i understand that i want a flat surface and am not just letting them grow through and i continue to tuck the plant as they grow until i can fill up the trellis. i guess my plants are still way too small and can use the extra veg time.

when do you guys normally start training your plants.....as in lolipopping or toppping. ive been topping my plants from the start of the 3rd or 4th node, and i plan on lolipopping 1 week before im ready to flip. but how often do you usually top? just once?
 
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