What’s wrong with this plant?

Bullmark

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So I’m growing 3 clones (from Trustfall who’s the greatest)……3 different strains.
All 3 are in 5 gal pots of Coco amended with dry organics. I’ve ran this recipe a bunch, usually without any problems.
They are currently in week 4 of flower. 2 of the 3 are looking great, but the 3rd has a case of full time droopy, clawed leaves. They’re also a tiny bit darker green, which I assumed was a touch of N toxicity. As of right now the tips aren’t burned or yellow.
The 2 others have leaves that are erect and even praying a bit.
All 3 plants seem to be flowering fine and getting extra frosty. Other than the leaves drooping and clawing, the plant seems to be moving through flower just fine.
One more thing: they are under 2 diff LED lights. A HLG 320 r-spec and a HLG 150 Patriot…..so 470W total in a 2.5’ x 6’ space….
I’m not pushing them too hard….they’re getting around 750-800ppfd.
What does everyone think?
Droopy strain is Grandi Guava
2 others are White Truffle x Okie2 and Fruity Pebbles OG.
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Daino

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I think I defo see a little N toxicity and possible a little overwatered maybe ya see both will cause a little bit of clawing depending how far they have been pushed but overly dark green leaves are a sire sign of N toxicity, there will be a lot more ppl on here with streets more knowledge that me I'm purely saying what I can possibly see and other opinions will come also
 

Bullmark

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My watering w/ this usage of coco is a little like soil and a little like most traditional coco grows.
I try to not let the coco dry out, but I don’t water everyday and I def do not water until there is any runoff. I don’t want to leach out my amendments but I also don’t want things to get dry.
In veg it’s usually every third day and during flower they’ll drink more so it’s every other day.
It’s really difficult to over water coco…..and in all my other grows, I’ve never had a plant do this.
Hell the other 2 are getting the same treatment…exactly the same….and they show no signs at all.
Even though they all went into the same mix, I guess that strain can have too much N, while the other 2 strains tolerate it fine.
I’m hopeful that they keep on flowering and over time recover……I’ll def do a lighter top dress when that time comes and cut back the N even more.
I’d love to hear from some others and get their take……,,thanks again.
 

Modern Selections

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Looks like the pH is too low and hot soil or coco mix, whatever it is. Coco needs frequent watering. You aren't doing yourself any favors being stingy with the water.
 

Bullmark

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Looks like the pH is too low and hot soil or coco mix, whatever it is. Coco needs frequent watering. You aren't doing yourself any favors being stingy with the water.
I adjust the PH to 6.0-6.2…..although I’ve been told that with organic amendments and buffered coco there isn’t a need to control the PH of inputs. That info is above my level of expertise….so I adjust to 6.0-6.2 and call it a day.
As for the mix being hot, I think that’s likely the case. I mixed my normal recipe but some strains tolerate more than others.
I’ve grown in this same mixture for several years and had some great harvests. It’s 100% Fox farms 70/30 coco…..the only things I add are worm castings and various dry organics….some Gaia Green, insect frass, langebienite, kelp, basalt, and some Gypsum powder. I never let the root zone get dry. I could probably water daily but after one day the entire medium, except for the very top inch or so, is still quite moist. So, in the interest of time, I’ll water every other day.
Maybe I’ll experiment with one plant and water it daily…..it may be eye opening.
This style of grow is perfect for some sort of auto watering system. But I enjoy it, so I’ve not went down that road.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
 
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