When do plants grow faster? Day/Night?

DelQ

Active Member
I sure notice the difference in my plants when I turn the lights on in the morning,, in the day I have a hard time telling if there is any growth at all.. I think checking on plants actually stunts there growth... This what I know for sure is I grew 55 acres of hay for 5 years, and on a full moon hay grows so fast you can almost watch it grow,, So I don't care what science says hay grows more at night, but weed I just don't know for sure..
 

Vonkins

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I will end this thread by answering this question and giving you guys the evidence you all can view for yourself and see. Plants grow faster during the day for sure. Go to YouTube and look at any time lapse videos of our sweet lady growing. You will see how she almost dances to the music playing on some videos. Actually what this is, is her at rest with the lights off and rising to attention and growing when the lights are on. FYI most videos are shot with a type of night vision on, so u can see the gals as they rest at night. Notice the period at rest is no where near the same length as the period of salute or growth (18=light=growth or salute/6=dark=rest) Can I please get a plus rep for the answer. Thanx
 

chusett

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My understanding is they are eating and absorbing.. and growiing a bit throughout the day. In the dark overnight, they grow.
 

Vonkins

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My understanding is they are eating and absorbing.. and growiing a bit throughout the day. In the dark overnight, they grow.
R u actually reading this thread or just posting comments. Look what I just posted. I'm right 100% on this answer just look for yourself.
 

Vonkins

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Here's the video guys cannabis time lapse marijuana grow #3 by FatFreddy420UKCom. What u guys have to realize is most time lapse grows are lapsed so fast all you see is the plant just growing. In this video his lapse isn't quite so fast so u can actually see when the girls rest which is about a third of the time they salute and grow. Proving 18/6 is better and ur gals do their most growing during the day when on an 18/6 schedule.
 

Cobnobuler

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They stretch the most when you 'aint lookin at 'em......The longer you aint lookin at 'em, the more they stretch, ...this is a scientific fact of course...:wink:
 

C3Pgro

Active Member
Or it could be you sound like a total douchebag
Way to not contribute anything to anybody man. And now YOU are the douchebag.....

Yeah, Im no scientist, but when you have them on 24 or 18/6 you can not see them all day and by the time you get home you wont even recognize your little ladies. Saying that though I havent really studied mine at night cause once they were outta my house I only see them once a month. You could google the answer?
 

Vonkins

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Way to not contribute anything to anybody man. And now YOU are the douchebag.....

Yeah, Im no scientist, but when you have them on 24 or 18/6 you can not see them all day and by the time you get home you wont even recognize your little ladies. Saying that though I havent really studied mine at night cause once they were outta my house I only see them once a month. You could google the answer?
Obviously you guys don't read posts well. Why google an answer. I just freaking answered yalls question. Just take a look before u post anything else about this.
 
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As I understand it, the plants have such rapid growth during flowering (as opposed to veg-ing) because the light cycle is telling them that the growing season's end is rapidly approaching. The fragrant resinous flowers are trying their damned-est to attract a pollinator that they might reproduce and the species survive. If a plant is pollinated in the beginning of it's flowering cycle the buds will not get big, as there is no motivation-they have served their purpose. Now I know that was a long walk for a short drink of water-and it didn't answer your question. The above passage was more meant in rebuttal to the hypothesis offered above which goes something like: The plants almost triple in size because they get 12 hrs sleep per night. No doubt that has some to do with it but...but what. I don't know. To try to address the question I will offer this time-lapse video of a grow. (there are lots to choose from out there)

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It seems to me that nearly all of the foliage growth is occurring during the peak of the light cycle. (you can see in the video when the light is more dim-the lights just kicked on and are warming up) I hope this helps you win your "debate"

That being said there is no time-lapse of the roots in the dark. Anyone want to try that?
 

Dabh

New Member
I am having a debate with a friend and it goes as such.

"Plants grow faster at night"

I said "no way, I know roots grow faster at night I had read that. But I don't believe Pot Plants grow faster at night."

Explainable by veg being 24hr.s for some grows. Even though I run my Veg at 18/6 after reading better growth with a night cycle.

I say faster during the day

So what do you guys think?
I check my plants jus before the lights go off and again just befor the lights go on and I have to say that I notice more growth during the night when the lights are off
 

superbak3d

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"Grows faster" I think is a poor way to word it.

Lights on = plant is feeding on light and water, mostly vegetative growth.

Lights off = Plant uses all the food it collected through out the day on seed/pollen/resin production.

The plant never stops growing, lights on and off. What parts of the plant that grows however is what changes during the cycles.

Why you see more change at night than day is pretty straight forward, it using all the stored energy it collected during lights on.
 

Dabh

New Member
"Grows faster" I think is a poor way to word it.

Lights on = plant is feeding on light and water, mostly vegetative growth.

Lights off = Plant uses all the food it collected through out the day on seed/pollen/resin production.

The plant never stops growing, lights on and off. What parts of the plant that grows however is what changes during the cycles.

Why you see more change at night than day is pretty straight forward, it using all the stored energy it collected during lights on.

Ok thanks great to kno. I'm doing my first grow at the moment so I can't stop checking on them lol. But I think there's something wrong if I upload a pic can you have a look and see if u can see a problem?
 

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saiyaneye

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Kind of a quick n00b question. If I switch from 24/0 to 18/6 (100w light to 400w light). Will the switch cause "stress"? Or do you think it would benefit from gradually changing down to 18/6?
Day 1-3 23/1
Day 4-6 22/2
Day 7-9 21/3
Day 10-12 20/4
and so on?
 

superbak3d

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Kind of a quick n00b question. If I switch from 24/0 to 18/6 (100w light to 400w light). Will the switch cause "stress"? Or do you think it would benefit from gradually changing down to 18/6?
Day 1-3 23/1
Day 4-6 22/2
Day 7-9 21/3
Day 10-12 20/4
and so on?
No they won't get stressed out.
 

superbak3d

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Ok thanks great to kno. I'm doing my first grow at the moment so I can't stop checking on them lol. But I think there's something wrong if I upload a pic can you have a look and see if u can see a problem?
Looks fine to me, I don't see any issues other than maybe a tiny bit of nute burn on the tips (which is ok!).

Maybe 5-6 weeks into flower yes? Over the next week or so she'll start yellowing nicely. I can already see the fan leaves starting to yellow.
 

superbak3d

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So I should see any stunted growth by doing this?

Hell it would probably flourish
It'll grow better under 18/6 than 24/0

Despite what some people might claim, 24/0 is not the best cycle. Plants need darkness, and they have much more growth at night than during day. You plants will respond better to 18/6 than they ever will with 24/0
 

Dabh

New Member
Looks fine to me, I don't see any issues other than maybe a tiny bit of nute burn on the tips (which is ok!).

Maybe 5-6 weeks into flower yes? Over the next week or so she'll start yellowing nicely. I can already see the fan leaves starting to yellow.

Ok thanks I was getting worried. And it's a autoflower so about 4 weeks into flower. So should I reduce the amount of nutes of carry on as normal. I'm using biobizz grow bloom and Topmax at 1ml of each per litre
 
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