When do you get a soul??
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Moebius
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No, I meant a single cell. All life originated from a single parent cell. ..... analogous to the singularity of Big bang theorem
again one of the unanswerables
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
It's quite possible that several independent lines merged at separate reverse-branching points to produce the index lifeform that underlies our current tree of life. That would be not singular, and at this time there's no way to reconstruct that part of biogenesis. cn
Moebius
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eye exaggerate
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Maybe the idea ... just ... ohnevermind.cn
...you're getting lots of likes from me lately, totally nuts
eye exaggerate
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mindphuk
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Yet most scientists that study this problem disagree with your assessment. Horizontal gene transfer relegates the hypothesis of a single cell for all life quite improbable.
cannabineer
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...you're getting lots of likes from me lately, totally nuts
I'm not complaining! cn
jessy koons
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...is evolution truth?
Does truth evolve?
Padawanbater2
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Truth is a human concept. Facts evolve with new evidence and what's objectively true relies on those facts.
Doer
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We trickle down to all who reach the shore, even the chosen, but it seems a lot more like Amimal Farm or Brave New World, than the Bible, to me.
Doer
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Science is good. I have mixed feelings about religion in the scope of history, as a force of history. But, I can see what they are trying to express when I go the root of the religions. And I can see what us pitiful monkey brains can do with that. I'm not at all concerned with "after death." Everything that is me, will be gone. No chance identity will survive. Perpostous indeed, to think there is anything but Now.
Yes, the is no identity, it's memory, and will have to cease. Perhaps, quantum science somehow can show non-physical information persistence. Still there is the "I'm dead" problem.
I believe it was you who mention, in trippy, that though mindless and thoughtless there was still awareness of Self.
Can you imagine Self with no Identity, no Physicality, non-Causal? Can we imagine self awareness, uncoupled?
Moebius
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Zaehet Strife
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Plus Rep, well said Pad. Impressed.
Doer
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I can't help but think there is another kind of Truth. And what else is there but human concepts?
If we turn on a light in the room, everyone can see. But, we still can't define exactly what is illuminated and how this uncertainty can exist. So, that kind of Truth is not scientific fact. I can simply explain the revelation of the room somewhat, within known science. The Truth/Room is still Present.
I sometimes wonder, what if there was Proof of God? A scientific basis that explains the entire puzzle of what created us, and guides us and guards us. Many would say, yes, that is God. Un-deniable. It is God.
And many would say, no. That just proves that the universe or a giant space alien is Omin-All, it created us, it loves us and has the power to shape our lives. Not God.
We are only hunan concepts with big dreams.
If we turn on a light in the room, everyone can see. But, we still can't define exactly what is illuminated and how this uncertainty can exist. So, that kind of Truth is not scientific fact. I can simply explain the revelation of the room somewhat, within known science. The Truth/Room is still Present.
I sometimes wonder, what if there was Proof of God? A scientific basis that explains the entire puzzle of what created us, and guides us and guards us. Many would say, yes, that is God. Un-deniable. It is God.
And many would say, no. That just proves that the universe or a giant space alien is Omin-All, it created us, it loves us and has the power to shape our lives. Not God.
We are only hunan concepts with big dreams.
Jogro
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If you believe in such a thing as a "soul" it *HAS* to be imbued into the baby at conception.
That's when the baby develops its own unique DNA signature, and becomes its own living thing (not "independent" per se, but certainly "alive").
It can't be at "birth" because the baby doesn't "know" when its going to be born. In fact, pretty much at any point in time after 34 week, the baby "could" be born, with a C-section at the least.
That's when the baby develops its own unique DNA signature, and becomes its own living thing (not "independent" per se, but certainly "alive").
It can't be at "birth" because the baby doesn't "know" when its going to be born. In fact, pretty much at any point in time after 34 week, the baby "could" be born, with a C-section at the least.
Moebius
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