When & What Nutes?
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GreenRider
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When - When your plants are 1 month old
What - for soil any plant food that is 20-20-20 is perfect
What - for soil any plant food that is 20-20-20 is perfect
GreenRider
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Melangwanja
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Indeed, or something close to that.
What actually is optimal for Mj plants is usually something along the lines of 12-6-6. The vegitative state of the plant requires a higher Nitrogen ratio than other plants. 20 20 20 is none too bad, but it's more recommended to aim for what I said. (I'm guessing most people will also say the same, or close).
As for when, 1 month is ideal for if you want to nute it like regularly. What I did with mine, until I had to dispose of them, was to add a 1/5-1/8 of the original strength of the nutes, and simply water them with that. Even with they're just sproutlings, they'll usually be capable of substaining such a small amount. But however, DO NOT try to rush the nuting. Rush = burns = hard to coop with.
As far as what nutes to use, depending on what's available in your area, you can go with known brands, such as Fox Farm, Miracle Gro (but recommended, apparently, by other users), and whatnot.
Otherwise, use the magnificient tool that is Ebay to find what you need. It could maybe be a little more expensive, everything accounted for, but usually, it's reliable, and they also usually have great products.(I got my DynaGro off of ebay, worked great )
So here's a ressume:
Higher Nitrogen "teneur" for vegging your plant
Higher Phosphorus for when you want to flower. (A good idea would be at the same time, approximately, as when you change to a 12-12 schedule (if you,re an insider))
Oh, and here you go
NPK (#-#-#)
Nitrogen Dose
Phosphorus Dose
Potassium Dose.
If you're unsure, don't be shy to ask the shopkeep. Just be tactful to not point in the whole "I'm growing something happy" type of thing.
What actually is optimal for Mj plants is usually something along the lines of 12-6-6. The vegitative state of the plant requires a higher Nitrogen ratio than other plants. 20 20 20 is none too bad, but it's more recommended to aim for what I said. (I'm guessing most people will also say the same, or close).
As for when, 1 month is ideal for if you want to nute it like regularly. What I did with mine, until I had to dispose of them, was to add a 1/5-1/8 of the original strength of the nutes, and simply water them with that. Even with they're just sproutlings, they'll usually be capable of substaining such a small amount. But however, DO NOT try to rush the nuting. Rush = burns = hard to coop with.
As far as what nutes to use, depending on what's available in your area, you can go with known brands, such as Fox Farm, Miracle Gro (but recommended, apparently, by other users), and whatnot.
Otherwise, use the magnificient tool that is Ebay to find what you need. It could maybe be a little more expensive, everything accounted for, but usually, it's reliable, and they also usually have great products.(I got my DynaGro off of ebay, worked great )
So here's a ressume:
Higher Nitrogen "teneur" for vegging your plant
Higher Phosphorus for when you want to flower. (A good idea would be at the same time, approximately, as when you change to a 12-12 schedule (if you,re an insider))
Oh, and here you go
NPK (#-#-#)
Nitrogen Dose
Phosphorus Dose
Potassium Dose.
If you're unsure, don't be shy to ask the shopkeep. Just be tactful to not point in the whole "I'm growing something happy" type of thing.
GreenRider
Member
yea I wouldn't give any thing more then 1/8th strength when you first start to feed them and if you feed them every watering you proibly can get away with 8th to 1/4 strength also if you feed then to much nutes you'll burn them and also later on you can cause Nute lock and that meens the plants can't absorb any nutes the best way to fix that is to take the same amount of water as the medium , water it slowly , let it sit for 5 to 10 mins so the salts is disolved then take the same amount of water and run it through it again slowly and that will help take the salt buildup away
GreenRider
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no that is a huge no no
1 - You'll burn the plants
2 - They will absorb the nutes way faster then what they'll need
3 - The only time you spray your plants is if you have spider mites and you have to treat your plants
mv400
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What they are trying to say is that you buy the nutes at your local garden shop or home depot etc. they come in bags if I am not mistaken. You prepare solution with 1 part nute and 8 part water for 1/8 mix; for 20% strength you prepare the solution with 1 part nute and 5 part water. Also make sure your water (if you use tap water) is not chlorinated by putting it in a container and waiting 24 hours (top open of course for chlorine to evaporate from water). Correct me if I am mistaken
kmoo
Well-Known Member
nutes come in liquid and powder primarily, and should always be mixed with ph neutral water before applying to your plants.
before you hit the boards here, i'd REALLY suggest you go to wikipedia.org and search "cannabis cultivation" it's a long read but you really need to know most of everything that is on there. and plus you will pick up a lot of slang and such that people will use in here and a general overview of what goes on.
and also have a look at this
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/166852-jester88s-basick-grow-guide-some.html
and don't add nutes to every watering, it'll overdo them.
Melangwanja
Active Member
Alrighties, allow me to clarify a few thingies!
So! Nutes can come, as far as I'm aware of, in 3 different types:
-Water Solluble (Powders, Crystals, etc)
-Liquid types (should also be put in water)
-Direct/oragnic/however you call it.
The third one is the type with you'll mix it in with your soil, and/or make a tea out of what you have. (Tea as in you boil it up so the nutrient rich.... often poop.... goes into the water, and you wait for it to cool down before giving it.)
Now, for the 20-20-20 question, that's a standard indoor plant nute mix that's widely sold in grow shops or home hardware stores. Although it's not too bad for the plants, it's not an ideal mix.
As for the mixing of raw N, P, and K, that's, as the other man said, a big No-No. Although we often talk about those three elements in particular, your plants will imperatively need trace elements of many other things. Just check a nutrient bottle/bag. They'll usually have things such as Calcium, Magnesium, Potash, etc. These are still VERY important for the dear ones.
You are right, as far as the water goes. Waiting 24h is good to get rid of the great Cl that's in the water, but 72 is best, since then you're absolutely sure that EVERYTHING that could cause trouble is out.mv400 said:
Now, just to help a little with the calculations as far as nutes go...
If the box asks, for example, and this is NOT A REAL RATIO, 10 tablespoons of nutrients per gallon of water, and you want 1/8 of that, you have to make what's an eighth of 10... that's 1.25 tablespoons per gallon. So, if you want to put the nutes for every watering, just aim for an equivalent of 1/8.
Oh! And just for the record, giving your plants nutes for every watering is not such a bad thing as people think. If you give them full force nutes, then yes, that'll overcook them and probably end up with a nute burn. But if you make the ratio right, and you don't get to impatient and greedy, you'll get a plant nice and tall quite fast. Just don't over do it, since that will harm your plant.
AND FINALLY, happy growing!
(Oh, the books aren't much of a help in general. If you look around on the net, and look at different sources for your info, you can usually find a good amount of info for all of your growing needs.)
Sp32
Active Member
Alrighties, allow me to clarify a few thingies!
So! Nutes can come, as far as I'm aware of, in 3 different types:
-Water Solluble (Powders, Crystals, etc)
-Liquid types (should also be put in water)
-Direct/oragnic/however you call it.
The third one is the type with you'll mix it in with your soil, and/or make a tea out of what you have. (Tea as in you boil it up so the nutrient rich.... often poop.... goes into the water, and you wait for it to cool down before giving it.)
Now, for the 20-20-20 question, that's a standard indoor plant nute mix that's widely sold in grow shops or home hardware stores. Although it's not too bad for the plants, it's not an ideal mix.
As for the mixing of raw N, P, and K, that's, as the other man said, a big No-No. Although we often talk about those three elements in particular, your plants will imperatively need trace elements of many other things. Just check a nutrient bottle/bag. They'll usually have things such as Calcium, Magnesium, Potash, etc. These are still VERY important for the dear ones.
You are right, as far as the water goes. Waiting 24h is good to get rid of the great Cl that's in the water, but 72 is best, since then you're absolutely sure that EVERYTHING that could cause trouble is out.
Now, just to help a little with the calculations as far as nutes go...
If the box asks, for example, and this is NOT A REAL RATIO, 10 tablespoons of nutrients per gallon of water, and you want 1/8 of that, you have to make what's an eighth of 10... that's 1.25 tablespoons per gallon. So, if you want to put the nutes for every watering, just aim for an equivalent of 1/8.
Oh! And just for the record, giving your plants nutes for every watering is not such a bad thing as people think. If you give them full force nutes, then yes, that'll overcook them and probably end up with a nute burn. But if you make the ratio right, and you don't get to impatient and greedy, you'll get a plant nice and tall quite fast. Just don't over do it, since that will harm your plant.
AND FINALLY, happy growing!
(Oh, the books aren't much of a help in general. If you look around on the net, and look at different sources for your info, you can usually find a good amount of info for all of your growing needs.)
Thanks this was amazingly useful from you
Any names for good brands? - Possibly English brands?
Melangwanja
Active Member
Thanks this was amazingly useful from you
Any names for good brands? - Possibly English brands?
English as in from the UK? I've got no idea, mate. Um... Maybe... Um... Sorry, I really can't think of anything out of North America....
gangjababy
Well-Known Member
buy some nutes meant for herb, Botanicare, General Hydroponics, Advanced Nutrients.
All of them have a feeding schedule with them, don't get generic nutes, you'll tend to burn your plants using them...
All of them have a feeding schedule with them, don't get generic nutes, you'll tend to burn your plants using them...