When you smoke herb . .

NewGrowth

NewGrowth

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MuntantLizzard said:
you man I was thinking one bong hit ago and I learned everything is nothing and nothing is everything.
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It is our "absolute" interconnectedness that causes this. If duality existed this would not be possible. So "emptyness" is in reality examining the "everything" of all beings . . . our universal connection to all that is. Pretty deep huh!? You have to meditate on emptyness more before you will truly understand.:peace:
 
Dfunk

Dfunk

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So are you claiming that duality dosen't exist in the one great consciousness connecting all? I disagree with that. I think light needs dark, happy needs sad, etc. etc. How could one truly be appreciated without understanding of both? Example.......If you began feeling pain from the time you came into this world & this continued everyday allday for the rest of your exsistence would it be good or bad? The answer is simple - it would be neither because you would't know the difference. If the same scenario happened with one beautiful day with no pain there would be duality. I believe the great consciousness inherently is aware of this & therefore it is incorporated into all facets of creation & exsistence. Everything is Everything is a song by Lauryn Hill & I think a better way of saying it. That is like saying good/bad are the same which is actually true...let me see if I can explain. I think this great consciousness is...well...like pure energy. This energy is everything including us. All things manipulate the energy pulling opposite forces out. Think opposites attract type of theory. What I'm trying to say is that this energy starts off pure & then is manipulated by whatever is using the energy.
 
loke

loke

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MuntantLizzard said:
you man I was thinking one bong hit ago and I learned everything is nothing and nothing is everything.
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That's the truth that I embrace aswell. I believe that all of our actions are completely inconsequential in the greater workings of the universe. Theres no morality but what we make.

life and death is merely the result of a force of balance perpetuating in the universe. it means nothing in the infinitely cyclical continuum of time.

if the sun swallowed the earth whole, it wouldn't even feel it. We are nothing.
 
NewGrowth

NewGrowth

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Dfunk said:
So are you claiming that duality dosen't exist in the one great consciousness connecting all? I disagree with that. I think light needs dark, happy needs sad, etc. etc. How could one truly be appreciated without understanding of both? Example.......If you began feeling pain from the time you came into this world & this continued everyday allday for the rest of your exsistence would it be good or bad? The answer is simple - it would be neither because you would't know the difference. If the same scenario happened with one beautiful day with no pain there would be duality. I believe the great consciousness inherently is aware of this & therefore it is incorporated into all facets of creation & exsistence. Everything is Everything is a song by Lauryn Hill & I think a better way of saying it. That is like saying good/bad are the same which is actually true...let me see if I can explain. I think this great consciousness is...well...like pure energy. This energy is everything including us. All things manipulate the energy pulling opposite forces out. Think opposites attract type of theory. What I'm trying to say is that this energy starts off pure & then is manipulated by whatever is using the energy.
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You are correct as well :lol: see I was discussing the absolute nature of the universe and you are discussing the limited nature of the universe. Duality exisists in a finite world but is impossible in and infinite one. This is the only "duality" the trick is to experience the absolute and limited universe with the same awareness. Energy is always energy and just that it comes and goes, like everything else it can not exisist in a world without change. So in this idea everything is energy in motion, if not in motion then not at all . .:peace:

loke said:
That's the truth that I embrace aswell. I believe that all of our actions are completely inconsequential in the greater workings of the universe. Theres no morality but what we make.

life and death is merely the result of a force of balance perpetuating in the universe. it means nothing in the infinitely cyclical continuum of time.

if the sun swallowed the earth whole, it wouldn't even feel it. We are nothing.
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Exactly only total acceptance will allow us to see clearly. Small actions not seen as of consequence negates our entire exsistance. You see each action results in a reaction if this were not true it would be impossible for us to even exsist. And we are also nothing! Yes, this is our inherent nature common to all. So we must embrace the limited and absolute nature of our world and in the limited nature moral values are necessary.:peace:
 
loke

loke

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We only exist because we can perceive this reality with the limit of our senses.All that we see, hear and feel now is temporary and primitive as far as the higher minds are concerned; we are simply a parasitic infection living on the backside of a planetary being. Insignificant and obviously not wanted (storms...ect) when we pass from this mortal coil by what ever means, it is truth the the energies of our entity will disperse into the universe where the fragments of who we once were will rejoin the totality of the greater universe and beyond. Our vary consciousness will simply cease to exist, making everything in this reality irrelevant and thus of no consequence. WE will not be we anymore, never to percieve anything ever again, never to bite the backside of anything again.

Everything in existence is Energy, everything you see can be burned at the right temperatures, everything is a superficial fuel.

Duality exist on the spindle of toque which perpetuates all energy. True power exist within the folds between light and darkness.
 
NewGrowth

NewGrowth

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loke said:
We only exist because we can perceive this reality with the limit of our senses.All that we see, hear and feel now is temporary and primitive as far as the higher minds are concerned; we are simply a parasitic infection living on the backside of a planetary being. Insignificant and obviously not wanted (storms...ect) when we pass from this mortal coil by what ever means, it is truth the the energies of our entity will disperse into the universe where the fragments of who we once were will rejoin the totality of the greater universe and beyond. Our vary consciousness will simply cease to exist, making everything in this reality irrelevant and thus of no consequence. WE will not be we anymore, never to percieve anything ever again, never to bite the backside of anything again.

Everything in existence is Energy, everything you see can be burned at the right temperatures, everything is a superficial fuel.

Duality exist on the spindle of toque which perpetuates all energy. True power exist within the folds between light and darkness.
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Good post . . . Remember understanding the absolute does not mean you understand the limited. So we are of consequence in the limited dimension, that is why people come back to it because most people are still trapped in the limited dimension. :peace: True freedom comes from a balance of both.

GrowTech said:
when you smoke herb...

it's harder to blindly justify and accept the decisions of others.
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For sure then you begin to question even your own reality . . .:peace:
 
loke

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Thank you Dfunk and Good points NG!

ah Metaphysics at its stoniest, lol.

The middle path is the most healthy path to exist in. Between the extremes is were you will find balance; not only in this dimension but all the alternative dimensions which we inhabit simultaneously. For we exist never as one singular being but one of many, one cell among many, one entity through a multitude. The continuum of our consciousness exists within the parallels of the multiverse. To balance ourselves we must follow the middle path.
 
NewGrowth

NewGrowth

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loke said:
Thank you Dfunk and Good points NG!

ah Metaphysics at its stoniest, lol.

The middle path is the most healthy path to exist in. Between the extremes is were you will find balance; not only in this dimension but all the alternative dimensions which we inhabit simultaneously. For we exist never as one singular being but one of many, one cell among many, one entity through a multitude. The continuum of our consciousness exists within the parallels of the multiverse. To balance ourselves we must follow the middle path.
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And sometimes we fall back into the absolute when things get hectic in the limited . . . So the middle is life in all ways complete acceptance of what is.
 
loke

loke

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NewGrowth said:
And sometimes we fall back into the absolute when things get hectic in the limited . . . So the middle is life in all ways complete acceptance of what is.
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and what isn't, in order to understand the temporary absolute of all things we must accept the everlasting void of the nothingness thereof. Without contrast all is unfathomable.
 
dos lunge

dos lunge

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Walk the middle line of your mind. there is no other road by which to reach any destination. Infinity and nothingness will always be there and shall never be known. To walk in between the two and catch glimpses of both is to appreciate life on this world.
 
NewGrowth

NewGrowth

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loke said:
Good in thought but hard in practice.
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Never rely on failures growth and change is continual in all things. :peace: The middle way is a place of peace in a hectic violent world. . . .
Ganja, Buddha, Marijuana, Herb, ect. Reminds us of the joy found in the current of life ie Love.
In the space between
Love exists
Unchanging the force behind the current
The reason for all becoming
The end of all that was
 
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