where to check trichromes to decide harvest?

hillbill

hillbill

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I have occasionally chopped a few early due to crowding in the veg tent. I haven’t had any ready under 7 weeks from flip except for an occasional C99 and a pheno of Space Monkey.
 
FirstCavApache64

FirstCavApache64

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2absolute2purity2 said:
Do u have a link for them? Never heard of em before today i thought fiskars was ultimate
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You want the Chikimasa B 500 SRF if you want the curved tip ones that I went with that are Fluorine coated. The tips curved in to make it easier to follow the shape of the buds. There's no spring to work against all day so that saves your hand muscles. I've never used them but based on the people I've talked to they really are a step up from basic trimming scissors as far as quality and the coating is supposed to help make them harder to gum up with resin. I have nerve issues that affect my hands so trimming sucks big time for me even though it's just a little 4x4 harvest. I'm hoping this cuts down on the time once I get used to them. I would just Google the name and model as there were a bunch of different prices ranging from 30-35 bucks with free shipping. I went with Amazon just because they can get it here quickest and I need to chop soon. Hope this helps.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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For trimming buds I still prefer the good old fiskers. When I moved to Oregon everyone here was all about chikimasa shears. I’ve used them a couple seasons now but they havnt grown on my yet. They great shears and there’s things I do prefer them for, just not trimming.

the coatings on them all wear off so I prefer just stainless blades, and just keep them clean and lubed with a little coconut oil.

Some people complain about the spring scissors but for trimming weed I prefer them. Yes you have to squeeze the spring to close them, but the spring removes effort when trying to open them, especially when they are sticky. With the chikamasa you have to put full hand effort into closing and opening. For me that results in a More tired hand at the end of the day.
 
2absolute2purity2

2absolute2purity2

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Thundercat said:
For trimming buds I still prefer the good old fiskers. When I moved to Oregon everyone here was all about chikimasa shears. I’ve used them a couple seasons now but they havnt grown on my yet. They great shears and there’s things I do prefer them for, just not trimming.

the coatings on them all wear off so I prefer just stainless blades, and just keep them clean and lubed with a little coconut oil.

Some people complain about the spring scissors but for trimming weed I prefer them. Yes you have to squeeze the spring to close them, but the spring removes effort when trying to open them, especially when they are sticky. With the chikamasa you have to put full hand effort into closing and opening. For me that results in a More tired hand at the end of the day.
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Very eloquently put ty for this! May i ask u tho, i got fiskars for trimming n on my first grow/harvest ever n wanted to ask whats the shortest time uve seen a plant dry? Is it worth checking the branches before 7 days for snap/crunch test? Got a 3 or 4 ft plant drying in a tent w 65F n 62-65%humidity
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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2absolute2purity2 said:
Very eloquently put ty for this! May i ask u tho, i got fiskars for trimming n on my first grow/harvest ever n wanted to ask whats the shortest time uve seen a plant dry? Is it worth checking the branches before 7 days for snap/crunch test? Got a 3 or 4 ft plant drying in a tent w 65F n 62-65%humidity
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how fast it dries is all about environment. When possible I prefer to dry in an environment that allows me 10-14 days of dry time. Some people live places like @curious2garden where it only takes a few days to get to the “dry point”. You can check it whenever you want it won’t hurt it to check on it. The key is figuring out what the right point is to take them down from hanging and move to the next step.

I like to hang whole branches or plants when possible. I remove all the fam leaves before hanging but find I get a slower dry and better results if I trim the rest after drying. for me once I get a snap from the stems around the buds I give the buds a little squeeze. I want the outside slightly dry/crisp feeling but I want to be able to tell the center is still a bit soft. When I get to that point I remove the buds from the stems and put them into paper shopping bags. They stay there for a few more days. I check them daily and shake them around a little. This process allows the buds to equalize the remaining moisture and finish evenly and slowly drying. A few days later once you can take a bud out, grind it and smoke it, then it should be done and ready for storage. If it doesn’t smoke evenly it may still have to much moisture and needs a few more days.

Once buds are in jars or bags for storage I only open them to smoke out of them.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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xtsho said:
I'm happy with the couple pairs of Fiskars SoftTouch I've had for years. They still work great. I think mine are pre-Chinese manufactured. I don't see how anything could be enough of an improvement to make any difference.

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yep had a pair for at least 10 years. I havnt seen them since the move west though… probably got taken by the moving box fairy.
 
2absolute2purity2

2absolute2purity2

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Thundercat said:
how fast it dries is all about environment. When possible I prefer to dry in an environment that allows me 10-14 days of dry time. Some people live places like @curious2garden where it only takes a few days to get to the “dry point”. You can check it whenever you want it won’t hurt it to check on it. The key is figuring out what the right point is to take them down from hanging and move to the next step.

I like to hang whole branches or plants when possible. I remove all the fam leaves before hanging but find I get a slower dry and better results if I trim the rest after drying. for me once I get a snap from the stems around the buds I give the buds a little squeeze. I want the outside slightly dry/crisp feeling but I want to be able to tell the center is still a bit soft. When I get to that point I remove the buds from the stems and put them into paper shopping bags. They stay there for a few more days. I check them daily and shake them around a little. This process allows the buds to equalize the remaining moisture and finish evenly and slowly drying. A few days later once you can take a bud out, grind it and smoke it, then it should be done and ready for storage. If it doesn’t smoke evenly it may still have to much moisture and needs a few more days.

Once buds are in jars or bags for storage I only open them to smoke out of them.
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Super grateful for this ty! Very helpful
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Thundercat said:
yep had a pair for at least 10 years. I havnt seen them since the move west though… probably got taken by the moving box fairy.
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I like the spring action as well. One thing about them is that as old as they are they're still extremely sharp and if you get too trim happy it's easy to snip into your finger which really sucks.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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xtsho said:
I like the spring action as well. One thing about them is that as old as they are they're still extremely sharp and if you get too trim happy it's easy to snip into your finger which really sucks.
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that’s some truth, I’ve never had a pair actually go dull.
 
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ComfortCreator

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The difference imo is like the scene in Kill Bill where Bud (!) explains that all swords must be measured by the Hattori Hanso swords...once you try them.

The chika scissors have 2 elements that arent in others - 1 - super sharp. I cant even use Fiskars anymore after the chicks. The other is the hardness of the metal where it is higher quality and goes along with the sharpness. The super sharp edge keeps in place. You will be tempted to cut things you wouldn't or shouldn't.

I'm a big Tcat and xtsho fan and respect all opinions, but try them again you may be surprised.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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ComfortCreator said:
The difference imo is like the scene in Kill Bill where Bud (!) explains that all swords must be measured by the Hattori Hanso swords...once you try them.

The chika scissors have 2 elements that arent in others - 1 - super sharp. I cant even use Fiskars anymore after the chicks. The other is the hardness of the metal where it is higher quality and goes along with the sharpness. The super sharp edge keeps in place. You will be tempted to cut things you wouldn't or shouldn't.

I'm a big Tcat and xtsho fan and respect all opinions, but try them again you may be surprised.
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I use Chikas almost daily because it’s what we have at work. I was just sharing why I havnt been as happy with them.
 
FirstCavApache64

FirstCavApache64

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I've just been really unhappy with the quality of the steel in my cheap trimmers. I can't say I've tried the Fiskars though. The cheap ones just won't hold an edge for shit and I'm a blade nut, I know how to sharpen stuff the right way. The spring for me is an issue because of my medical problems, having to constantly squeeze it I think causes more work than having it return the handle helps but I'll find out once I start using them I'm sure. I'm hoping the extra sharp blade will reduce the pressure needed to cut and therefore reduce the overall effort needed to finish the job. For a difference of 20 bucks between these and the El cheapos I usually get that break the springs every two harvests I'm betting they're worth it. If not they'll be good for the roses :mrgreen:
 
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