Which type of deficiancy would this be?

ThorGanjason

Well-Known Member
I was gonna say nitrogen deficiency after looking at the first pic. After looking at the second pic, I'm definitely thinking nitrogen
 

Japes

Member
This has nothing to do with your current problem but if I were you I'd train that lady a bit. From what I assume you are growing with natural light and given the time of year and no bud on your plant I'm guessing you live in the northern hemisphere and it's min summer by you. This plant is gonna keep growing and stretching until winter starts and buds start forming. Basically what I'm saying is that if you don't tip/top or train her now you gonna possibly out grow you roof dude.

With regards to your current problem, I've had this problem before when I started growing. I had great difficulty finding out what was wrong and if it wasn't for your full plant shots I wouldn't have been able to see whats wrong with yours but it seems like you have a simple watering problem here. Your leaves are sagging just a little bit too much and I think you might be drowning her.
 

Japes

Member
Make sure there are drainage holes at the bottom of the pot. A plant that size would ok to be watered every 3rd or 4th day, obviously depending on temperatures..
 

e10lt1z

Member
This has nothing to do with your current problem but if I were you I'd train that lady a bit. From what I assume you are growing with natural light and given the time of year and no bud on your plant I'm guessing you live in the northern hemisphere and it's min summer by you. This plant is gonna keep growing and stretching until winter starts and buds start forming. Basically what I'm saying is that if you don't tip/top or train her now you gonna possibly out grow you roof dude.

With regards to your current problem, I've had this problem before when I started growing. I had great difficulty finding out what was wrong and if it wasn't for your full plant shots I wouldn't have been able to see whats wrong with yours but it seems like you have a simple watering problem here. Your leaves are sagging just a little bit too much and I think you might be drowning her.
Hah, yeah you're right. I'm in northern cali! Ok so, since I started the thread I haven't watered her. She seems to be doing better, definitely perking up a bit!

Thanks a lot for the input as well, you're answer is definitely reassuring that it's just being over watered!

Inregards to feeding, I've read that MG (soil) will give the plant nute burn. So far, I haven't had that problem. Would you guys say that I should just stick with what the MG
offers for nutes, or begin to add more? I was thinking since it's growing and I'm broke (lol) I'll just leave it be for now, but of course I'm always all ears to some help with
my current setup!
 

Japes

Member
I'm a hydroponic grower myself and my knowledge on soil grows are limited and the fact that I have never heard of MG (I don't live in America) doesn't help much. The best advice I can give you is just listen to your plants. If they are growing fine now then leave them as they are. Check them everyday and at the first sign of yellowing leaves you'll know to start feeding them. Here's a chart I find useful to check nute deficiencies:

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But before you take my advise on it wait for the organic and soil boys to give some feedback on your question.
 

Potolota

Active Member
but after seeing the second pic, it might be nitrogen, try slightly upping the nutes and see what happens
I do t agree with this at all, if he ups the bites while the plant is recovering from lock out it could do more damage than good. He's posted that the plants are getting perkier just by not being watered witch leads us all to the decision we originally thought and that's water bogged.

on another note glad to hear your babies are getting happier, weed is very forgivin plant, u can put it through he'll at first but when you learn what she loves she will love you in return :). I have used mirical grow mg for short, and never had any issues at all, ESP with nute burn. I have successfully grown 3 times using it all the way from start to finish.

Keeping this in mind remember mg has nutes in it so don't start hot and Heaney with the nutes you add, start with the minimum and work your way up till u find the happy level

good luck
 

e10lt1z

Member
Ok soooo, thanks a lot for the advice, I really do appreciate it. So now I have a very beginner question I'm sure has been asked all over the forums, but here it goes lol..

So the term ''nutes'' is a general term? for example, if I had a deficiency, would I add more ''nutes'' or would I add calcium (example)? My friend gave me a plant, and he also then gave me
''enough nutes for a 5 gallon plant'' So he said. So i'm a little iffy on how to use said product and what it does, contains, ect. I don't even have a name.

Also, an update on the plant! So, it is most definitely getting perkier, it's reaching for the sun now instead of being depressed lol. But now I see a lot of yellow leaves at the bottom..
It seems as if this is climbing from bottom to top. But, then again, there is new growth.. So I was curious, is this natural? I'm guessing from being over watered, some of the leaves died
and they're turning yellow now? Good news, the leaves are getting crystals on them! Gives me something pretty to start looking at hah!
 

ProfessorPotSnob

New Member
You have a spelling deficiency ! Haha Just kidding and do not take it serious .

The plant at hand looks fine but a bit hungry is all but this is normal and I would not stress to much unless it progresses upwards and fast , but simply feeding it as recommended will amend this issue as well as repotting .
 

Potolota

Active Member
The bottom plants yellow is because they are not needed they will die off so that the top leaves can gather more of the light and in trimming cases people take of large amount of leaves anyway so it's nothing to stress over and as far as the nutes are concerned it is a general term for all nutrients, if u don't know what the nutes u have are then I wouldn't use them till u research what it's for.
 

e10lt1z

Member
Oh ok legit! I would just like to say thanks again for the helpful answers! Will my current spelling deficiency, I'm not quite sure you can understand this, but thanks a lot! You've been a good stress relief lol!
 

nova1992

Well-Known Member
ya your baby looks like she needs some food. go to walmart or whatever store similar in your area, something with a plant section and get a plant food with lots of the first number 10-5-8 is an example (N-P-K) my food is 20-20-20 and my plats only had a bit of yellowing at 3 weeks old, they are nice and green now :)
for the plant food too.. i got a large container of nutes for $6.99 and that will last me forever! i also got MG super bloom or some crap and that was $5.99 so the nutes really dont cost that much and they last a long time :)
 

Sheesh420

Member
Looks like basic bottom wilt. Older leaf hanging out at the bottom probably not getting much light or ventilation and getting whacked by nutes during feedings or touching the moist dirt? That's my guess...

If it starts trending farther up the plant or happening at the tops you'd have something to be concerned about.
 

Hydrotech364

Well-Known Member
I know there are tons of threads, I've read through a lot of them and honestly I think I'm to anal to pick one problem lol.

I have this problem where if I see one thing different about the plant, I can't stop assuming shit (all bad like it's dying/going to die ect).

here is the picture of a leaf I took off of the plant. I would say around 20% of the leaves are having these symptoms.

Also, a little extra info. This is my first attempt at growing, and I got the green thumb due to my friend growing beautiful plants. So, I thought I would
try and grow a little something myself this year. I however didn't read anything when beginning. I used miracle grow soil (lol) and I don't any anything
to the soil. I just water it and it grows, which is exactly what I wanted this first time around.

So just recently I found out I had a mite problem on one of my plants, so I went to a hydro store and the guy recommended Mighty Wash. I used it on my
plant, everything was great, killed all the mites, no problems at all. Found out the plant was a male, killed it, and now my other plant has mites. I used MW
on said plant, everything died, everything good for 2 days, and on the third day, this is what is happening. Wasn't sure what could be the problem though.




Thanks for the help, also if anyone knows the best way to grow with the current soil, i know I won't be getting the best, I just want to complete a cycle.

Looks like ya need to either up the PPM or drop the PH, Ya Freeky Anal Bastard :))))
 

Hydrotech364

Well-Known Member
Hey word's of wisdom, "The Bigger the root's The bigger the fruit's".The bigger the container or bag, the bigger the plant. Sooo If you want a halfway decent plant, use halfway decent soil.
 

e10lt1z

Member
Ok so, here is an update..

Everything was going great while I kept an eye on my mom watering the plants, but then shit got hectic and I had to pay more attention to work ect. So I've been realizing the
plant is turning yellow once again. I ask her how much she's been watering it and everything, but honestly she doesn't keep track lol.. So I've told her now to completely stop
watering the plant and I'll advise her on when to water.



This is the current state of the plant. Very yellow, top is light green. It does seem to have little patches of fine spider web, but there is also a spider on the plant. Now do spiders
eat bad bugs, or are they bad for the plant?

Also, here are my other two plants that I have just started feeding the nutes my friend had given me. As you can see they're much greener and healthier, which leads me to believe maybe the
MG soil has ran out of nutes OR ofc being over watered for the larger plant.

 

Potolota

Active Member
In my opinion spiders are good and bad good because they do keep the bugs toa minimum and bad because they will link leaves together and can stunt growth depending on we're they are at if u have. It towards the bottom it ill be fine, people do lst with their plants and this can be a form of that
 

e10lt1z

Member
In my opinion spiders are good and bad good because they do keep the bugs toa minimum and bad because they will link leaves together and can stunt growth depending on we're they are at if u have. It towards the bottom it ill be fine, people do lst with their plants and this can be a form of that
Uhh, it's one spider and hes at the top of the plant normally. I think he likes the clutter of leaves! I was hoping he would eat all the little bastards seeing as the plant isn't too big yet lol.
 
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