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Which would produce more DO in a DWC?

JSB99

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There's a huge difference between how my girls look this grow, compared to last. I usually trim at various points in the grow, to get rid of growth too deep for the light to hit. My canopy's pretty thin this grow, and I have the tops filling out nicely. We'll see what the difference in yield and quality is. I wasn't impressed by my last yield, so hopefully young back to how I used to grow will make a noticeable difference.

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JSB99

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Giving an update on how my plants are doing this grow, compared to last. This grow I trimmed twice. They turned out a lot better, but I'm also comparing a soil grow to a dwc grow. Next grow will be dwc, and I'll trim like I did this time.

Week 6 of flower:

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PetFlora

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Addressing the OPs thread title: The question on my mind is based on whether improving a waterfall's 8% DO to 12% (50% increase) be worth a ~ $300 investment?

According to the demonstration video, the O2Grow DO emitter system provides 12% (50% increase), BUT, is there an actual benefit? Dunno. I have searched but have not found a grow thread side-by-side, or anyone using it. Due to the emitter's DO staying in suspension for hours, some say it eliminates a chiller (chillers are about the same price as a 2020 O2Grow).

For future reference, I recently came across this seemingly kick-ass hybrid UC/F & D system

Thinking to incorporate the 6 pack into my F & D set up, but even semi-flooding the 5g buckets will require a bigger rez than I am using now, as well as a lot more stones.

https://greenenvysupply.com/brand/oxygen-pot-systems/
 
JSB99

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PetFlora said:
Addressing the OPs thread title: The question on my mind is based on whether improving a waterfall's 8% DO to 12% (50% increase) be worth a ~ $300 investment?

According to the demonstration video, the O2Grow DO emitter system provides 12% (50% increase), BUT, is there an actual benefit? Dunno. I have searched but have not found a grow thread side-by-side, or anyone using it. Due to the emitter's DO staying in suspension for hours, some say it eliminates a chiller (chillers are about the same price as a 2020 O2Grow).

For future reference, I recently came across this seemingly kick-ass hybrid UC/F & D system

Thinking to incorporate the 6 pack into my F & D set up, but even semi-flooding the 5g buckets will require a bigger rez than I am using now, as well as a lot more stones.

https://greenenvysupply.com/brand/oxygen-pot-systems/
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I don't think the problem is providing enough o2, it's getting the oxygen to the center of the roots. So, I'm not sure the emitters produce anymore oxygen than the plants can obsorb, and it would still require a powerful water pump to get any provided oxygen to the center of the root ball.
 
Budley Doright

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JSB99 said:
I don't think the problem is providing enough o2, it's getting the oxygen to the center of the roots. So, I'm not sure the emitters produce anymore oxygen than the plants can obsorb, and it would still require a powerful water pump to get any provided oxygen to the center of the root ball.
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Yup I think that’s the key as well. Get the oxygenated water to the inside of the root ball. Nice job!
 
PetFlora

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Getting O2Grow nanobubble DO to the middle of a root ball should not be an issue with DWC, however, I would have a mental conditioning problem trusting that the roots would be fine soaking 24/7 without lots of bubbles (a ts run with some bag seed should solve that), but with F & D, since the nanobubble DO stays in suspension for hours, a short cycle time will saturate the rez= no added CO2, or possible airborne pathogens
 
Airwalker16

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PetFlora said:
Getting O2Grow nanobubble DO to the middle of a root ball should not be an issue with DWC, however, I would have a mental conditioning problem trusting that the roots would be fine soaking 24/7 without lots of bubbles (a ts run with some bag seed should solve that), but with F & D, since the nanobubble DO stays in suspension for hours, a short cycle time will saturate the rez= no added CO2, or possible airborne pathogens
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I can guarantee bubbles are not necessary at all.
 
Budley Doright

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PetFlora said:
Getting O2Grow nanobubble DO to the middle of a root ball should not be an issue with DWC, however, I would have a mental conditioning problem trusting that the roots would be fine soaking 24/7 without lots of bubbles (a ts run with some bag seed should solve that), but with F & D, since the nanobubble DO stays in suspension for hours, a short cycle time will saturate the rez= no added CO2, or possible airborne pathogens
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Start a thread when you get it up and running.
 
Airwalker16

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Budley Doright said:
Start a thread when you get it up and running.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he was saying he is going to be doing a run with these emitters, but instead just confirming that bubbles won't be an issue as far as the center of it goes and that he's just pointing something out?
 
PetFlora

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Airwalker16 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he was saying he is going to be doing a run with these emitters, but instead just confirming that bubbles won't be an issue as far as the center of it goes and that he's just pointing something out?
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The possibility has turned into a probability, but not likely until after a 7 day trip in mid October
 
Budley Doright

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Airwalker16 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he was saying he is going to be doing a run with these emitters, but instead just confirming that bubbles won't be an issue as far as the center of it goes and that he's just pointing something out?
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I’m really not sure what’s being conveyed lol. But I wish he would stop posting in others threads about these stupid emitters that IMO are a complete waste of money. Start his own thread when he gets them :(.
 
JSB99

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Budley Doright said:
I’m really not sure what’s being conveyed lol. But I wish he would stop posting in others threads about these stupid emitters that IMO are a complete waste of money. Start his own thread when he gets them :(.
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Even though the subject matter has changed from the original topic ("Which would create more DO"), I'm still trying to show comparisons between different techniques of growing. There's never too much to learn, and I hope this benefits others who are just getting their feet wet. I know there are countless threads and sites with all this information, but I think fresh posts and pics serve as "current information", as opposed to threads that are years old.
 
PetFlora

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Budley Doright said:
I’m really not sure what’s being conveyed lol. But I wish he would stop posting in others threads about these stupid emitters that IMO are a complete waste of money. Start his own thread when he gets them :(.
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So the title of the thread means nothing to you? No need to respond, just pointing out your ignorance

And since you have never used them or know anyone who has (or you would have said so), your opinion is meaningless
 
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