White Poison - 2 liter Hempy SOG

Xare

Xare

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I don't have it started yet. Too much going on right now.

Tonight I have to bring in the rest of my guerrilla outdoor and defoliate my SOG.

I will be taking clones for the next batch after the 18th, so maybe ill start a new one then.
 
Xare

Xare

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The Defoil went really well.

Instead of cutting the lower branches away for a Lolly Pop ive removed the Fans :leaf:

Leaving all that growth and budsites to fill up with weight.


I did not have to remove alot of leaf to make a large change in the canopy.


Here are some shots of my Day 21 Defoil:

Before,



After,



After Side View,

 
notoriousb

notoriousb

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I've never thought about something pertaining to growing as much as a I have since you mentioned and explained the defoliation.
I guess its so interesting because it's so rarely practiced. what a difference it makes tho.
so you defoliated this first time at day 21-- you plan on defoliating once more, correct?
 
littlegrower2004

littlegrower2004

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Xare- this new run on your system looks great! i would have to say this is going to be the best producing batch by the looks of them. that defoliating works wonders too! in just a week youll see a significant amount of bud forming and new leafs growing!
 
Xare

Xare

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I chose to do the defoil on day 21 and 45 instead of 14 and 40. They had a bit more stretching to do so I decided to wait for the later stripping schedule.

Jrosek has used both, and I think in the end settled on 21/45



This is a week after my first stripping,

Day 28:

 
littlegrower2004

littlegrower2004

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thats a nice amount of bud change in those! any way you can rotate a few of them out of the center to the side? looks like those on the sides arent swelling up quite as much but still look real good!
 
Xare

Xare

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I noticed that, and I think I need to make an adjustment to my new parabolic reflector. I need to raise the light in the umbrella more so it throws light out to the side farther.

Gonna do that now.
 
littlegrower2004

littlegrower2004

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Xare said:
I noticed that, and I think I need to make an adjustment to my new parabolic reflector. I need to raise the light in the umbrella more so it throws light out to the side farther.

Gonna do that now.
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sounds like that should take care of it. did you see any difference in the stretch height of this grow compared to those that werent defoliated? they look a bit less from the pics and the top nugs look to be more nuggy and harder appearing this time!
 
Xare

Xare

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They are close to the same height as my second batch. The first stripping was done after the stretch so they are as tall as they can get for a 7 inch sog clone. About 21 inches tall now.

Its easy to see bud structure with the fans removed, and easy for the light to get there too :)

Ive been running Silica Blast with this batch and I can tell the stems are thicker and stronger. Hopefully this will solve my leaning problem.
 
Xare

Xare

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Ohh and the one gallon hempy does not seem to be out preforming the two liter / half gallon hempys.

Its doing just as good but does not have a visible advantage over my smaller pots so far.
 
littlegrower2004

littlegrower2004

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Xare said:
Ohh and the one gallon hempy does not seem to be out preforming the two liter / half gallon hempys.

Its doing just as good but does not have a visible advantage over my smaller pots so far.
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i was wondering about that, just wasnt sure if that was this grow or the previous. the 2 liters must be the perfect size to not waste space. how did it go moving the bulb? see any difference in light exposure to the outer plants?
 
Xare

Xare

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This reflector has an adjustable sliding mount for the bulb that focuses the light footprint. I loosened the wing nuts to raise it a bit. That should help with spreading the light out to the edges better.
 
Xare

Xare

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My grower friend stopped over for a 4:20 visit today :)

I guess he got his hands on a Skunk #1 cut and he might share soon hehe.
 
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GangstaChronic

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Xare, with the defol method, do you think it would be alright to put the plants closer together - and even add more plants to the scene? thus increasing yield?

i know you've got a set watering schematic but in theory?
 
Xare

Xare

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Yea I think with defoil you will be able to cram plants together close.

Right now I have 5 rows of 5 so 25 total, ive tried 6 rows of 6 without trimming or stripping and the Canopy was cramped.

But with Defoil you could go as high as 8 rows of 8 in a 4 x 4.

I read that Jrosek was doing 11 rows of 11 in a 5.5 x 5.5 under a 1000 watt hps. When they are crammed that tight together you will need to reach in and bend lower branches around so they get good light after the stripping.
 
littlegrower2004

littlegrower2004

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ya i agree with the need to bend lower branches if you cram them together. on the plant that ive left all lower branches and defoliated, it had a lot more lower branching which seemed IMO to be something that may prevent the addition of more plants. the reason of defoliating is to allow the lower buds to fill in, instead of cutting them off, which makes cramming plants in cause the same shading as the fan leaves would be doing. may be possible to keep them lollipops but still defoliate and increase the number of plants instead. make a huge bud on a bunch of plants.
 
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marmarb

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xare i havent been to riu in months or close to a yr but dude your grows are fucking sick seriously ive been growing autos and im bout to start my 1st 12/12 strain and going to go hydro for the first time and your hempy grows have deff got me stoked at what i can do i got the soils grows down so now to move up to hydro and gonna have the same setup as you so thanks for your grows oh gonna be growing northern lights so thanks again gonna rep you up
 
Xare

Xare

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Thanks man, you will be happy switching to normal genetics and hempys for sure.

An advantage of this setup is its low profile. SOG, like auto's keeps things short.

If I had full ceilings to work with I would have setup a DWC, or areoponics to grow larger plants.

But because of my height restriction and the need to keep things low I came up with this hempy sog grow. I think alot of cabinet growers would love hempys and drip irrigation.
 
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