White Slime on My Roots and Airstones
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ancible
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Well, I went and got the algae destroyer from wal-mart. Haven't had time to get some GH ph up/down.
When I added the algae destroyer, I looked at the roots of course. There was only a very small blob of the stuff on each of the root masses for the plants (I have three). From previous experience the stuff should have been back much quicker, much stronger. The best I can figure (and I have a bad track record this grow) is that I added less ph up/down this res change. I just wanted to go low, so I didn't worry about getting it perfect this time.
At any rate after 24 hours even that blob is gone.
More updates as things change...
When I added the algae destroyer, I looked at the roots of course. There was only a very small blob of the stuff on each of the root masses for the plants (I have three). From previous experience the stuff should have been back much quicker, much stronger. The best I can figure (and I have a bad track record this grow) is that I added less ph up/down this res change. I just wanted to go low, so I didn't worry about getting it perfect this time.
At any rate after 24 hours even that blob is gone.
More updates as things change...
ancible
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Allright. I have NO more slime.
Best I can tell the ph up/down was the problem, though I also added a single application of the algae destroyer I got from walmart. I think it was the ph up/down because even before I added the algae destroyer, the slime was hardly growing and the only thing I changed was the amount of up/down I used. This is stealth hydroponics up/down btw.
Best I can tell the ph up/down was the problem, though I also added a single application of the algae destroyer I got from walmart. I think it was the ph up/down because even before I added the algae destroyer, the slime was hardly growing and the only thing I changed was the amount of up/down I used. This is stealth hydroponics up/down btw.
papajock
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glad to hear it is under control. you probably will start to see a thin coat of white fuzzy stuff on the roots. this is the coating the roots put on themselves for protection and uptake of nutes. it looks alot different from the slime. are you using vinegar for ph now? if so use the apple cider vinegar. it is more natural. good luck.
email468
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sounds like the "natural" pH adjustments was what got him into this mess.
papajock
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had to go back and reread. I see he is going with gh ph down
email468
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Yes - the G.H. pH down seemed to fix the problem. I never would have guessed it though i do recall an old bottle of pH down I had was all nasty (so I didn't use it). One more thing to add to the list of "could be ....."
Muffy D
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yay I was right for once!! When I figured that out about the different PH downs I was like "Why the hell is there no info on this?". I started a thread about this problem and I got so many responses and went through so much billshit and $$ in order to find out a 10$ bottle of good ph down would have fixed all my problems (and my roots). You should submit this info to a moderator so they can put it in a FAQ.
ancible
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I never would have guessed the ph up/down was the problem either email!
If you look back at my first post (i think anyways) I say that I am doing nothing different but using gh nutes and growing satori...I forgot that last time I didn't even use ph adjustments haha.
And yeah Muffy maybe I will try to get it in the faq, but honestly part of me just wants to be in the official part of this site
And thanks to you too, papajock. I really think it was the ph up/down but I will keep that bottle of algae destroyer handy as well.
If you look back at my first post (i think anyways) I say that I am doing nothing different but using gh nutes and growing satori...I forgot that last time I didn't even use ph adjustments haha.
And yeah Muffy maybe I will try to get it in the faq, but honestly part of me just wants to be in the official part of this site
And thanks to you too, papajock. I really think it was the ph up/down but I will keep that bottle of algae destroyer handy as well.
Hi, thought I'd throw some parameters into this issue.
Note* - I changed my nickname from growing novice, because ... I'm nowhere near a "novice" it actually should be "1stTimeGrowingMoron", I was drunk when I registered, and I've changed it and settled on Yak.
I'm growing (or trying to grow) Delta9 labs Super Star, and Mandala Satori:
Anywhoo. I will try to comprehensibly put some information together with my issues with the "white slime"
When I first dealt with it, I had a 3 gallon rez with PH'd tap water (no nutrients) and I was just trying to bring some seedlings up a bit before transferring them into a 20 gallon aeroponic rez.
sorry, the picture is sideways, but it's 6 seeds that I tried to start in a 3 gallon bubbleponic type thing. CFLs for the seedlings, with 2 150w HPS lights as additional lighting.
all I had at that time was a digi PH meter, and did not know the rez temps, I do believe that the rez temps were a big factor in the white slime issue, as well as the fact that I was using VINEGAR to lower the PH.
Following Ancibles thread, I decided to clean the holy shit out of everything with store bought (3%) H2O2, things were much better since!
I also switched from vinegar, to PH up and down for fish tanks:
Those two factors seemed to eliminate the slime (the hydrogen peroxide and the eliminating vinegar) so I thought all was well, and in about a week, I transfered my three plants into an Aeroponic system .. FilthyFletch STYLEEEE. When I changed systems, I also switched from tap water to RO water, the ppm on my tap water is 220, and I was hoping to get more control over everything starting off with RO water. (this has created a whole new canundrum that has nothing to do with this thread).
One more very important factor, I became leary of the TopFin aquarium PH system and bought a big bottle of General Hydroponics PH down. Today I'll be going to get some GH PH up, and some AN Barricade
which is Potassium Silicate. aslso, as per Earl I'll be getting some Potassium Carbonate, and Potassium Hydroxide to control the buffers. Man, I cant wait til I get the hang of all this chemical stuff and just have the rite nutrient/chem solution to make plants happy
Things are going better, but I JUST noticed slime on the bottom of my netpots.
I am so bummed!
I have a feeling that it's rez temps, I average between 69 and 73, and I know that is too high. I have been trying 16 oz frozen bottles of water, but it's not doing the trick. My rez for this system is 20 gallongs, but I can only put 13 gallons in it, which is not really enough water for the 6 plants that I was hoping to grow in it.
My next step is trying some algae destroyer, and looking into getting a chiller. I'll probably be pestering Earl via private message to see about his opinions on best brand/variety/price.
Sorry for the long post everyone, I just wanted to add some hopefully coherant thoughts and facts on what I've been dealing with as far as this stuff goes.
*bump*
Note* - I changed my nickname from growing novice, because ... I'm nowhere near a "novice" it actually should be "1stTimeGrowingMoron", I was drunk when I registered, and I've changed it and settled on Yak.
I'm growing (or trying to grow) Delta9 labs Super Star, and Mandala Satori:
Anywhoo. I will try to comprehensibly put some information together with my issues with the "white slime"
When I first dealt with it, I had a 3 gallon rez with PH'd tap water (no nutrients) and I was just trying to bring some seedlings up a bit before transferring them into a 20 gallon aeroponic rez.
sorry, the picture is sideways, but it's 6 seeds that I tried to start in a 3 gallon bubbleponic type thing. CFLs for the seedlings, with 2 150w HPS lights as additional lighting.
all I had at that time was a digi PH meter, and did not know the rez temps, I do believe that the rez temps were a big factor in the white slime issue, as well as the fact that I was using VINEGAR to lower the PH.
Following Ancibles thread, I decided to clean the holy shit out of everything with store bought (3%) H2O2, things were much better since!
I also switched from vinegar, to PH up and down for fish tanks:
Those two factors seemed to eliminate the slime (the hydrogen peroxide and the eliminating vinegar) so I thought all was well, and in about a week, I transfered my three plants into an Aeroponic system .. FilthyFletch STYLEEEE. When I changed systems, I also switched from tap water to RO water, the ppm on my tap water is 220, and I was hoping to get more control over everything starting off with RO water. (this has created a whole new canundrum that has nothing to do with this thread).
One more very important factor, I became leary of the TopFin aquarium PH system and bought a big bottle of General Hydroponics PH down. Today I'll be going to get some GH PH up, and some AN Barricade
which is Potassium Silicate. aslso, as per Earl I'll be getting some Potassium Carbonate, and Potassium Hydroxide to control the buffers. Man, I cant wait til I get the hang of all this chemical stuff and just have the rite nutrient/chem solution to make plants happy
Things are going better, but I JUST noticed slime on the bottom of my netpots.
I am so bummed!
I have a feeling that it's rez temps, I average between 69 and 73, and I know that is too high. I have been trying 16 oz frozen bottles of water, but it's not doing the trick. My rez for this system is 20 gallongs, but I can only put 13 gallons in it, which is not really enough water for the 6 plants that I was hoping to grow in it.
My next step is trying some algae destroyer, and looking into getting a chiller. I'll probably be pestering Earl via private message to see about his opinions on best brand/variety/price.
Sorry for the long post everyone, I just wanted to add some hopefully coherant thoughts and facts on what I've been dealing with as far as this stuff goes.
*bump*
bubblerking
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For a mod you dont know what your talking about read thisI don't think that root rot is pH related, at least the way I think about it. It's a pathogen that grows in warmer water. Keep your res temps below 75F and you'll be fine.
HTH
What pH level or range should I aim for?
What pH level or range should I aim for?
Marijuana thrives in neutral to slightly acidic mediums. Soil and soilless mixes should aim for pH of 6. Hydro growers should go slightly lower which helps prevent pythium and other root rots-- 5.5 to 5.7 is ideal
BSIv2.0
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Same here. But I used Vinegar......Nasty stuff.
silverhaze420
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I am using vinegar now as ph down... had root rot before doing any ph or anything been trying to save the plants since. My root rot started when the temp was low at like 68ish but i also did not change the water more then once in 6 weeks. trying the peroxide route now. I think it was the pH which was up at like 7.5 that was causing the root rot.. From Ancibles posts I guess that really is the case. You can check the pix from my root rot on https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/51681-leaves-drying-holes-pro-200-a-3.html but i gotta warn you its pretty nasty!
potroast
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Like I said, the pathogen I mentioned is pythium, and it grows in warmer temps. It's not caused by anything pH related, but an acidic medium will "help prevent" the growth of the pathogens. (quoting your source)
And being a mod doesn't mean that I am a growing expert, that just means that I help with the administrative duties around here.
HTH
silverhaze420
Active Member
Hmmm I think the pathogen i got causing my root rot is pythium... and my temp was pretty low so i wonder if either the root rot was NOT pythium or if there was another cause that was not temp related..
See my ugly roots at https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/51681-leaves-drying-holes-pro-200-a-3.html
See my ugly roots at https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/51681-leaves-drying-holes-pro-200-a-3.html
Like I said, the pathogen I mentioned is pythium, and it grows in warmer temps. It's not caused by anything pH related, but an acidic medium will "help prevent" the growth of the pathogens. (quoting your source)
HTH
it has been my experience with a couple of ruined grows, using vinegar or any other "organic" type ph down in hydro causes problems, I couldnt get my plants going right to save my life, I have a new grow going now and i am using distilled water, and ph down, no problems with ph spikes and no slime or chunks in the res, when I was using tap water and vinegar before I had slime ph spikes 3 or 4 times a day, and the plants eventually died.........take it from a newbie, get the right ph down and use some good water...... good luck
email468
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yep - agreed!
bubblerking
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your problem is you need to change your water every 7 days 6 weeks is way to long