White spots on buds curing

MintyDreadlocks

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If you do a extraction a lot of those methods will kill the spores and leave you with something at least. CO2 extractions will basically kill everything. A butane extraction will basically do the same. I have done it for personal consumption without any ill effects. It would never fly in a medical dispensary though. I know some people are against my suggestion but its generally safe to consume when using those extraction methods.
 

waterproof808

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If you do a extraction a lot of those methods will kill the spores and leave you with something at least. CO2 extractions will basically kill everything. A butane extraction will basically do the same. I have done it for personal consumption without any ill effects. It would never fly in a medical dispensary though. I know some people are against my suggestion but its generally safe to consume when using those extraction methods.
extraction doesnt filter out aflatoxins which is the primary concern with consuming moldy material.
 

MintyDreadlocks

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extraction doesnt filter out aflatoxins which is the primary concern with consuming moldy material.

Check out the extraction bullet point. Also sure a lot of us have consumed moldy flower without relizing before we had the proper knowledge. As did our ancestors and humans over the course of the last 10,000 years. We do have means of utilizing the material though with ehat we know now and im just speaking from experiance. And many of us probably smoke cigarettes too so a carcinogen compound shouldnt mean you have to throw away all your bud when there are methods in making it ok to consume. Thats my take and i know a lot of things with cannabis are still in infancy and a lot of things are anecdotal. I just personally have no issue taking some moldy flower and making it into oil. Thats just my hot take and im not trying to say in right or wrong.

 
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waterproof808

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Check out the extraction bullet point. Also sure a lot of us have consumed moldy flower without relizing before we had the proper knowledge. As did our ancestors and humans over the course of the last 10,000 years. We do have means of utilizing the material though with ehat we know now and im just speaking from experiance. And many of us probably smoke cigarettes too so a carcinogen compound shouldnt mean you have to throw away all your bud when there are methods in making it ok to consume. Thats my take and i know a lot of things with cannabis are still in infancy and a lot of things are anecdotal. I just personally have no issue taking some moldy flower and making it into oil. Thats just my hot take and im not trying to say in right or wrong.
Once again, killing mold spores does not kill aflatoxins nor can they be filtered out and they can cause very serious health effects. The type of mold that forms on curing buds like the OP's is most prone to produce Aflatoxins.
 

MintyDreadlocks

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Once again, killing mold spores does not kill aflatoxins nor can they be filtered out and they can cause very serious health effects. The type of mold that forms on curing buds like the OP's is most prone to produce Aflatoxins.
Cool, can you link me to a article so i can read up more on it. Cant really find anything definitive online as there are people saying it can be destroyed and others saying it cant. So id like to see where you read up on this so i can get the same knowledge
 

waterproof808

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Cool, can you link me to a article so i can read up more on it. Cant really find anything definitive online as there are people saying it can be destroyed and others saying it cant. So id like to see where you read up on this so i can get the same knowledge
from the article you shared written by forum member @Fadedawg:

The mold spores are the principle source of allergic reactions, but allergic reactions aside, some of the molds produce aflatoxins that attack our central nervous system and livers. Mold material can easily be removed by filtration, but filtration doesn't remove aflatoxins
 

Phytoplankton

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Mold is one thing, yes you can kill it and the spores, however the mold makes aflatoxin which is a potent carcinogen, and is highly resistant to heat:

"The most common way to remove AFB1 using physical methods is to heat and use gamma rays. Aflatoxins are highly thermostable. Studies have shown that AFB1 levels are significantly reduced by heating at 100 and 150°C for 90 minutes, respectively, at 41.9 and 81.2%."
 

Hook Daddy

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Mold is one thing, yes you can kill it and the spores, however the mold makes aflatoxin which is a potent carcinogen, and is highly resistant to heat:

"The most common way to remove AFB1 using physical methods is to heat and use gamma rays. Aflatoxins are highly thermostable. Studies have shown that AFB1 levels are significantly reduced by heating at 100 and 150°C for 90 minutes, respectively, at 41.9 and 81.2%."
I was just reading up on that here


Interesting read. Anyhow it seems 50-90% of aflatoxins would be removed during decarb. About the other 10-50% just a chance you have to take if you feel up to it. I grow more than I can use and give most away, so wouldn’t bother. If you smoke cigarettes and such you’ve already decided those levels are an acceptable risk, to each their own, I know for a fact I’ve smoked more than my share of moldy bud back in the 80s and 90s and didn’t think twice about it.
 

Phytoplankton

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I was just reading up on that here


Interesting read. Anyhow it seems 50-90% of aflatoxins would be removed during decarb. About the other 10-50% just a chance you have to take if you feel up to it. I grow more than I can use and give most away, so wouldn’t bother. If you smoke cigarettes and such you’ve already decided those levels are an acceptable risk, to each their own, I know for a fact I’ve smoked more than my share of moldy bud back in the 80s and 90s and didn’t think twice about it.
Agreed, I don't even want to know how bad that old Mexican ragweed from the 70's was! I'm in the same boat as you, I produce much more than I consume, so "If in doubt, throw it out."
 

MintyDreadlocks

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Agreed, I don't even want to know how bad that old Mexican ragweed from the 70's was! I'm in the same boat as you, I produce much more than I consume, so "If in doubt, throw it out."
Yeah totally agree if i was in that position. However I know things eith science sound a lot worse than what they potentially are and as a cigg smoker i dont give two shits if my shit has residual toxins in it. Is rather be high than have no supply but if i had it like that always id throw it out too.
 
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