White Widow, First Grow
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Poobzilla
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So after some research found out that my soil is basically coco in a bag rather than in a brick that you have to soak.
May now know what the issue with the leaf on my plant is. Thinking need some cal mag as I read that coco is bad for it and a deficiency usually shows in crinkly leaves. Not sure if that's described right but the pic I seen compared to my plant is similar.
My next delivery of saucers will be arriving today. Ordered 3 from amazon and they sent one with a load of other stuff and then 2 are getting sent today through royal mail. Will begin the process I read about of "fertigation" trying to keep PPM's in check. Also found out that by me having good tap water doesn't necessarily mean it has a good PH for growing. My PPM usually reads in the 30's but the PH is up around low 8's. I have been spraying occasionally with a fine mister with just water and although no issues, may stop this practice as humidity seems to be more stable now that there are bigger pots filled with water. Will post some pictures later once I have had my delivery and can water to runoff and will probably start adding data of my PPM and PH levels.
This journal hasn't really been very journal like and hoping to be more detailed in the information given to help others and if I need help down the line the issue may be better identified. To aid in this I have given all the plants names to identify them. I have Gimp for the gnarly leaf one and the others I have named Shelob and Ungoliant. Maybe should have picked a more straightforward name but both from Tolkien's Universe.
May now know what the issue with the leaf on my plant is. Thinking need some cal mag as I read that coco is bad for it and a deficiency usually shows in crinkly leaves. Not sure if that's described right but the pic I seen compared to my plant is similar.
My next delivery of saucers will be arriving today. Ordered 3 from amazon and they sent one with a load of other stuff and then 2 are getting sent today through royal mail. Will begin the process I read about of "fertigation" trying to keep PPM's in check. Also found out that by me having good tap water doesn't necessarily mean it has a good PH for growing. My PPM usually reads in the 30's but the PH is up around low 8's. I have been spraying occasionally with a fine mister with just water and although no issues, may stop this practice as humidity seems to be more stable now that there are bigger pots filled with water. Will post some pictures later once I have had my delivery and can water to runoff and will probably start adding data of my PPM and PH levels.
This journal hasn't really been very journal like and hoping to be more detailed in the information given to help others and if I need help down the line the issue may be better identified. To aid in this I have given all the plants names to identify them. I have Gimp for the gnarly leaf one and the others I have named Shelob and Ungoliant. Maybe should have picked a more straightforward name but both from Tolkien's Universe.
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Poobzilla
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So my first water has been completed. I need a bigger container for mixing in as my cans are only 1.5 and the PPM results and PH vary as a result of each plant taking a litre of water with runoff. I don't know if tailoring to each is better off for me being a noob or if i should be giving them all the same for ease.
Regardless it has been done and my water PH at start 7.5 and PPM 42.
All plants got as close as I could to .5ml each of micro, grow and bloom.
Gimp: Inflow - 6.4 PH & 191 PPM Shelob: Inflow - 6.2 PH & 195 PPM Ungoliant: Inflow - 6.2 PH &163 PPM
Runoff - 6.5PH & 172 PPM Runoff - 6.5 PH & 260 PPM Runoff - 6.5 PH & 237 PPM
I am using the information here as a guide: https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/ectargets/
Inflow PPM could be higher but would prefer to increase as I can with this method of nutrients with every water.
Regardless it has been done and my water PH at start 7.5 and PPM 42.
All plants got as close as I could to .5ml each of micro, grow and bloom.
Gimp: Inflow - 6.4 PH & 191 PPM Shelob: Inflow - 6.2 PH & 195 PPM Ungoliant: Inflow - 6.2 PH &163 PPM
Runoff - 6.5PH & 172 PPM Runoff - 6.5 PH & 260 PPM Runoff - 6.5 PH & 237 PPM
I am using the information here as a guide: https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/ectargets/
Inflow PPM could be higher but would prefer to increase as I can with this method of nutrients with every water.
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.Smoke
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Same here. Just broke ground.
Subed.
Powertech
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I’ll be switching to flower soon
Poobzilla
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I got a pack of 5 and got a free critical seed with them. Didn't know if I was going to germ all of them or not but as I got the free seed thought I could go for 4 and if I fuck up I have the 2 spare. Another factor was that I seen my friends grow and hes got 2 in each corner of a 60x60 and thought I could get 4 in an 80x80. The choice of 4 and not less was also down to possible failures. I would have been more gutted that I lost one sprouting if I had 3 instead of 4 and with the numbers game I can still hope for some sort of harvest at the end.
Edit: As long as I get 3oz of cured bud at the end of it I will have paid my costs off when comparing what I would spend on 3oz normally.
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Poobzilla
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Nice, I like the glove cup method. Is it an auto/photo seed?
.Smoke
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Thanks! They've grown each plant in my tents. Done me well so far, 100% success rate.
They're all fem photos.
Poobzilla
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Will give it a follow. Quite pleased that there seem to be a few white widow grows that have all started around the same time.Thanks! They've grown each plant in my tents. Done me well so far, 100% success rate.
They're all fem photos.
Powertech
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so, you have 3 plants and only need 3 oz? dude, youre golden as long as they make it to the end
Poobzilla
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I know I should be more than fine but first grow cant expect amazing yields. Only need a few oz on top of that and that will keep my habit in check until next harvest unless I smoke more that there will be more around lol
Powertech
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The more you have the more you will smoke
Don't discount yourself either. My first grow I got 713g with one plant
Poobzilla
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DAAAAAMN SON!!!!The more you have the more you will smoke
Don't discount yourself either. My first grow I got 713g with one plant
Poobzilla
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Today's update:
I got some voodoo juice and b-52 to add to the nutrients and have cal mag on the way. I also now have a 5 litre jug to mix my water and nutes together so all plants can be kept relatively similar.
Used 3L of water to begin, added 1.5ml each of base and 3 ml each of VJ and B-52. PPm was at 220 so added another 300ml of water.
Inflow PH and PPM were 6.15 and 204 respectively.
Run off for each plant was: Shelob - 6.5PH & 293PPM
Gimp - 6.5PH & 280PPM
Ungoliant - 6.5PH & 282PPM
All levels seem good for the guide I am following and taking water PPM away gets even closer to the recommended. Teeny tiny third leaves are coming through now so will soon be able to increase nutes as per fertigation guide advice and also AN calculator.
Will not be posting daily updates but wanted to show levels now with 2 different nutes in the works.
All plants got another litre or close to it. Seems like a good point to take forward although when roots grow I know they will take in more water and may have to water more frequently or just water by more. Twice a day is good for half the week but the other half I would only manage to water once per day.
Edit: forgot to mention the gimp has some dryer leaves than the others. As a precaution I have moved furthest away from heater and raised lights slightly.
I got some voodoo juice and b-52 to add to the nutrients and have cal mag on the way. I also now have a 5 litre jug to mix my water and nutes together so all plants can be kept relatively similar.
Used 3L of water to begin, added 1.5ml each of base and 3 ml each of VJ and B-52. PPm was at 220 so added another 300ml of water.
Inflow PH and PPM were 6.15 and 204 respectively.
Run off for each plant was: Shelob - 6.5PH & 293PPM
Gimp - 6.5PH & 280PPM
Ungoliant - 6.5PH & 282PPM
All levels seem good for the guide I am following and taking water PPM away gets even closer to the recommended. Teeny tiny third leaves are coming through now so will soon be able to increase nutes as per fertigation guide advice and also AN calculator.
Will not be posting daily updates but wanted to show levels now with 2 different nutes in the works.
All plants got another litre or close to it. Seems like a good point to take forward although when roots grow I know they will take in more water and may have to water more frequently or just water by more. Twice a day is good for half the week but the other half I would only manage to water once per day.
Edit: forgot to mention the gimp has some dryer leaves than the others. As a precaution I have moved furthest away from heater and raised lights slightly.
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Poobzilla
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Not really an update, all my levels have stayed roughly in the same area as last post.
When I was naming my plants I only knew that the gimp was the gimp. I has lost track of the other two when I was re-potting. but today when I had them lined up for water, which was the first time i had them lined up like that, I noticed the different sizes. Going from the roots when they were growing out last container, I think that Ungoliant is the one that had the biggest roots, the gimp was the second biggest I know that so that could mean that the smallest is Shelob. Updating since I can now trace plants from seedling through to re-potting.
When I was naming my plants I only knew that the gimp was the gimp. I has lost track of the other two when I was re-potting. but today when I had them lined up for water, which was the first time i had them lined up like that, I noticed the different sizes. Going from the roots when they were growing out last container, I think that Ungoliant is the one that had the biggest roots, the gimp was the second biggest I know that so that could mean that the smallest is Shelob. Updating since I can now trace plants from seedling through to re-potting.
sarahJane211
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Your plants are too young for nutrient problems (unless you're using 4x too much).
All my problems in coco start after 3-4 weeks.
Poobzilla
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Beginning to realise this. Got a lot of them first time jitters. The leaves were getting a bit dry on it so i moved the light up a touch and moved it furthest from the tube heater. Leaves already have thickened up a bit more since doing. I do have cal/mag coming but I realise I may not have to use it and it's handy to have for growing coco under led I hear
Poobzilla
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3 weeks deep into this adventure now.
I'm not sure if I am in veg yet but they are starting to ramp up growth. I decided to increase nutrient levels but not to full veg levels.
Inflow PH was 6 today and PPM was 420
Runoff levels were between 6.7 and 6.8 PH for all plants and since first feed with increased nutes the runoff PPM was lower than inflow but this will stable out with more feeds. Runoff PPM's were 406, 316 and 330 for shelob, gimp and ungoliant.
Another change made was I realised I'm not good at geustimating volumes as yesterday I emptied the runoff back into my measuring jug to realise I had used around 2 litres of water but the plants only held 0.5L. I have been overwatering my girls and today only mixed with a litre of water with 1ml each of base and 2ml each of additives. When measuring my runoff today it was at around 300ml, so a whole damn lot closer to the 20% that it's supposed to be around.
Ungoliant looks like my star child so far but I know that the other 2 could catch up quickly. Shelob is going slow but she looks healthy and the gimp is growing its leaves out at a slight angle, not symmetrical like her sisters.
I'm not sure if I am in veg yet but they are starting to ramp up growth. I decided to increase nutrient levels but not to full veg levels.
Inflow PH was 6 today and PPM was 420
Runoff levels were between 6.7 and 6.8 PH for all plants and since first feed with increased nutes the runoff PPM was lower than inflow but this will stable out with more feeds. Runoff PPM's were 406, 316 and 330 for shelob, gimp and ungoliant.
Another change made was I realised I'm not good at geustimating volumes as yesterday I emptied the runoff back into my measuring jug to realise I had used around 2 litres of water but the plants only held 0.5L. I have been overwatering my girls and today only mixed with a litre of water with 1ml each of base and 2ml each of additives. When measuring my runoff today it was at around 300ml, so a whole damn lot closer to the 20% that it's supposed to be around.
Ungoliant looks like my star child so far but I know that the other 2 could catch up quickly. Shelob is going slow but she looks healthy and the gimp is growing its leaves out at a slight angle, not symmetrical like her sisters.
