bigbudda10
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White widow, super lemon haze. Plants are messed up, need help!
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Snow Crash
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To me it looks like you have a series of issues.
The brown spots that stretch across a leaf vein are immobile nutrient related. Things like Calcium and Boron. The leaves just cook up.
The interveinal chlorisis is mobile nutrient related, as nutrients are being drawn from the leaves to feed the production of flower growth. Potassium and magnesium are your primary culprits here.
There is also possible evidence of some Nitrogen and Phosphorus shortage given the yellow of the leaves.
Lastly there's a little leaf tip "curl and twist" on the Haze which speaks towards toxicity or pH damage.
Essentially, the plants are hungry and not getting exactly what they are looking for. Given the variety of problems I would suppose the issue is probably pH, maybe over feeding. Either way, the solution is pretty much just water.
I'd cut out the nutrients for one feeding and run pH balanced water, no air stone. Make sure you get plenty of run off. This should help stabilize your pH, especially with the lime. After you get the system balanced pH wise you can add your nutrients. I'd go full strength on the WW because you need to feed her, but probably closer to 2/3 strength on the Haze. Keep a better eye on your pH in the future. There is really no need to run your solution for that long before hand. 30 minutes is plenty, most of the organic work can done in the media rather than in the reservoir.
The brown spots that stretch across a leaf vein are immobile nutrient related. Things like Calcium and Boron. The leaves just cook up.
The interveinal chlorisis is mobile nutrient related, as nutrients are being drawn from the leaves to feed the production of flower growth. Potassium and magnesium are your primary culprits here.
There is also possible evidence of some Nitrogen and Phosphorus shortage given the yellow of the leaves.
Lastly there's a little leaf tip "curl and twist" on the Haze which speaks towards toxicity or pH damage.
Essentially, the plants are hungry and not getting exactly what they are looking for. Given the variety of problems I would suppose the issue is probably pH, maybe over feeding. Either way, the solution is pretty much just water.
I'd cut out the nutrients for one feeding and run pH balanced water, no air stone. Make sure you get plenty of run off. This should help stabilize your pH, especially with the lime. After you get the system balanced pH wise you can add your nutrients. I'd go full strength on the WW because you need to feed her, but probably closer to 2/3 strength on the Haze. Keep a better eye on your pH in the future. There is really no need to run your solution for that long before hand. 30 minutes is plenty, most of the organic work can done in the media rather than in the reservoir.
bigbudda10
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earth juice ph after i bubble for 1-2 days is like 3.8-4.2 i read its not good to add ph up, cause the ppms go threw the roof. So i always just pore it right in.
My 100 dollar ph pen (2 months old) quit working. But ill get some cheap test drops, and water with correct ph water for the rest of this week and next.
Will they get worse before they get better? i've been tempted to just rip the bitches out the soil. lol
My 100 dollar ph pen (2 months old) quit working. But ill get some cheap test drops, and water with correct ph water for the rest of this week and next.
Will they get worse before they get better? i've been tempted to just rip the bitches out the soil. lol
Snow Crash
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They will probably get a little worse, but they will survive. Just get that pH in line, you are using it way too low and you definitely don't need to be aerating for 2 days. That's about all you can do. Time will tell.
bigbudda10
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what do you recomend i do about the low ph of earth juice? every where i've read says not to ph, the organic soil should buffer it.
Snow Crash
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I don't think you have much of a choice. You need that pH to go up.
If you don't like Bicarbonates to raise the pH, then I'd suggest trying a Potassium Silicate supplement like DynaGro ProTekt. You should be able to effect at least a mild pH swing with up to 5ml per gallon of this product. The plant should also benefit from the addition of Silicon to the mix as it aids in healthy cellular activity and improves immune functions. Just don't use too much of it, I'd actually suggest more like 3ml per gallon.
Might not make enough of a difference, but it should help.
The only other way is to incorporate more water to your solution. It's a bummer their system is so acidic... You gotta get the pH up though, no way around it.
If you don't like Bicarbonates to raise the pH, then I'd suggest trying a Potassium Silicate supplement like DynaGro ProTekt. You should be able to effect at least a mild pH swing with up to 5ml per gallon of this product. The plant should also benefit from the addition of Silicon to the mix as it aids in healthy cellular activity and improves immune functions. Just don't use too much of it, I'd actually suggest more like 3ml per gallon.
Might not make enough of a difference, but it should help.
The only other way is to incorporate more water to your solution. It's a bummer their system is so acidic... You gotta get the pH up though, no way around it.
bigbudda10
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plain water for 2 weeks (6.8ph). then gave nutes at 1/4 strenght (6.8ph). Then even worse, new growth is now affected. Time to give up on this one.
bigbudda10
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REALLY THINK EARTH JUICE IS TO BLAME. WILL NEVER USE AGAIN. GOING BACK TO ADVANCED NUTRIENTS WHERE ILL BE PROBLLY FREE. lol