Maat Aatack
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What did you apply to foliage?
White Widow X Bigbud
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jujment699
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watered it was plain ph water and sprayed it with a feeding solution. Nothing special but they bounced back with close to no damage
Maat Aatack
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I have not done much foliat application of anything besides misting cuttings. I'm curious as to what nutrient solution and strength people use.
trainwrecker86
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Just thought I'd put in my experience with wwxbb. Have done 3 runs indoor, and about to harvest my second outdoor run. This is not a super potent " unicorn" strain! Ya know one of those " mythical" one toke smokes. That being said, it is still a very solid strain. I'm no Jorge cCervantes, but I have been growing choice nugs for years and this strain is vigorous, resilient, easy to grow\feed\trim. Smells range from a lemony funk to a sweet, cat-piss like smell. And yield is over the top. Indoors I have 1600 watts hps and 2 165w cfls (flowering) and these girls in 5gal smart pots w\pro mix, fed with the G.O. line from G.H. supplemented with open sesame, Beastie bloom, a
nd cha ching, THROW DOWN! I average around 7 ozs per plant. The buds are rock hard, stinky, and covered (completely) in trichs. So as far as strains I've grown, (about 25-30), this one is def. In the top 5. Based on overall growth, potency, yield, smell\taste, extracts, and bag apeal. Here is some pics. Pulled 2.3 lbs of some choice buds off the big one outdoors!!!
nd cha ching, THROW DOWN! I average around 7 ozs per plant. The buds are rock hard, stinky, and covered (completely) in trichs. So as far as strains I've grown, (about 25-30), this one is def. In the top 5. Based on overall growth, potency, yield, smell\taste, extracts, and bag apeal. Here is some pics. Pulled 2.3 lbs of some choice buds off the big one outdoors!!!
trainwrecker86
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Not sure why it posted those pics in duplicates! But yeah, I would recommend this strain if you are looking for a high yield strain that is also potent and easy to grow. Anyone who has something bad to say about this strain, well just look at the pics!
jujment699
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very nice grow, but i am not impressed by the yield. Not your yield to be specific but unless my eyes deceive me, mine are about the size of yours... and i have had colas probably 5x the size, which made this really dissappointing imo.
you say you are about to chop your outdoor. Find your biggest cola and stand it next to a beer bottle on the table? Just so i could compare!
I complain about yield because i don't grow my plants too big or bushy, i also don't allow them to stretch almost at all, so they stay relatively small, and through all my LST and super cropping that i put them through they usually have 6-10 opportunities to produce monster colas, with hardly and "mini" colas off to the sides (Like you'd find on a normal plant, you got the main one and the little ones)
I also understand that when you say "yield" you are not meaning just single colas, but even the colas collected from then entirety of the plant still yield me less than a much larger single cola.
Its a solid strain, for the most part, they cloned in 2 days in my aero cloner, extremely resilient, fast growing (for the most part) and easily trimmed... in fact i supercropped most of my plants almost to death and they bounced back in a few days....
But damn those formidable genetics.... I dislike the yield so far, the potency from what i've tried, the smell from what i can smell as well (don't have very good smell) ... you said it yourself "cat piss" lol i am not interested in cat piss... thats how my house smells normally xD
Not to mention i have a CSS and SB that is in the tent for less than half the time of my wwxbb flowering and already has bigger, denser, colas and they still got another 6 weeks im guessing.
But an excellent grow otherwise to you @trainwrecker86
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Negative nancy. JK LOL!very nice grow, but i am not impressed by the yield. Not your yield to be specific but unless my eyes deceive me, mine are about the size of yours... and i have had colas probably 5x the size, which made this really dissappointing imo.
you say you are about to chop your outdoor. Find your biggest cola and stand it next to a beer bottle on the table? Just so i could compare!
I complain about yield because i don't grow my plants too big or bushy, i also don't allow them to stretch almost at all, so they stay relatively small, and through all my LST and super cropping that i put them through they usually have 6-10 opportunities to produce monster colas, with hardly and "mini" colas off to the sides (Like you'd find on a normal plant, you got the main one and the little ones)
I also understand that when you say "yield" you are not meaning just single colas, but even the colas collected from then entirety of the plant still yield me less than a much larger single cola.
Its a solid strain, for the most part, they cloned in 2 days in my aero cloner, extremely resilient, fast growing (for the most part) and easily trimmed... in fact i supercropped most of my plants almost to death and they bounced back in a few days....
But damn those formidable genetics.... I dislike the yield so far, the potency from what i've tried, the smell from what i can smell as well (don't have very good smell) ... you said it yourself "cat piss" lol i am not interested in cat piss... thats how my house smells normally xD
Not to mention i have a CSS and SB that is in the tent for less than half the time of my wwxbb flowering and already has bigger, denser, colas and they still got another 6 weeks im guessing.
But an excellent grow otherwise to you @trainwrecker86
Some valid opinions from both of you. But that is it, opinions. everything good and bad about it has already been said already so no need to go on. i personally dislike it more than i like it.... i agree with jujment because i have had some monster colas....
This is Ak-47 AUTOFLOWER. If i can rummage up some pics of a photoperiod cola... you'd be impressed. Unfortunately i still have to delete evidence, this was some left behind on facebook (oops) The wwxbbs were puny, smaller than beer bots
jujment699
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YES!!!!
That is a quality cola my friend! Makes me wanna upload a photo but im also in an evidence destroying zone lol. i just take the pictures as i need them but never store them.Quite dank indeed how much did you pull?
And autoflower? god autos suck so hard lol
not being able to control lighting is like a knife in the side lol
(there goes my negative nanciness again!)
i've had bigger ones with photoperiods, still never that big with an auto, most my autos get beer bottle size.
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Maat Aatack
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Appreciate ur 2 cents Trainwreck. Seems a similar experience to my own with this strain. I got roughly 10oz/ plant in 15gal smart pots, but will be moving to 7's after this cycle. I agree with your rating on all points, but I would like to add that as far a smoke quality, while it isn't a unicorn, it is still very quality herb. While I am interested in growing something that cripples me, I will always have this strain as a mainstay of my operation because of it's amazing yield.
Couple of questions: where did you get your genetics, and how long do your plants bloom?
jujment699
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Just to add in my off topic two cents, ghost train haze is pretty unicorny... Haze is slow and weak yielding sadly, but it's definitely the easiest seed (cup winner) to buy and gives you a massive falcon punch right in the nogger.
I have never head rushed like I have off this strain, not even with dabs! 
The303Yeti
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I agree about this strain not being the best. I have a mother that I'm going to flower and be done with it. My plants smell delicious though. Very kushy smell. As far as evidence, smoking is the best way to destroy itJust to add in my off topic two cents, ghost train haze is pretty unicorny... Haze is slow and weak yielding sadly, but it's definitely the easiest seed (cup winner) to buy and gives you a massive falcon punch right in the nogger.
Maat Aatack
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This is one thing I think the cannabis community needs to work on accepting. There is a market and a place for every strain, even low thc varieties. Much if not all of demand is driven personal preference. What is "good" for one person, is possibly not as good for others. Personally for me, I don't always look to get stupid, sometimes I just want to relax and take the edge off. If I smoked Haze every day, I'd be unable to function, but in WWxBB I'm able to get just enough "therapy". And hey if I need more I can always smoke more, which I've of course done and was totally comatose.I agree about this strain not being the best. I have a mother that I'm going to flower and be done with it. My plants smell delicious though. Very kushy smell. As far as evidence, smoking is the best way to destroy it
jujment699
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I agree. My clones are all grown up and flowering... I'm considering this Critical Sensi Star as my bulk strain because it's packing on weight so quick I can't even keep up with it. Commercial. I will then experiment with all the other strains as I resume my breeding. I got my landraces!I agree about this strain not being the best. I have a mother that I'm going to flower and be done with it. My plants smell delicious though. Very kushy smell. As far as evidence, smoking is the best way to destroy it
Some wise words from everyone, just like ubernuber said very wisely before he destroyed his wisdom with bragging xD
No need to go on.
So changing the subject back to the thread topic:
Here is my progress.
K. But being honest in this pic can anyone see why I complained about yield? On the left is my wwxbb cola almost 11 weeks. In the very back is another full grown Wwxbb. On the far right is my CSS, 4 weeks I think... That is my only standing complaint. I am just surprised since I thought big bud was exactly what it says... "Big bud" at this rate it will be double or triple the size without the disgrace of big buds quality. Pointless breeding IMO.
jujment699
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Thrips.... Yay.
Found some wood chips in my soil they probably came along with it ugh... These are terrible I always have to nuke my plants and then half of them are still in the garbage. Neem oil too late for flower. Spinosad too late for flower. -_-
Found some wood chips in my soil they probably came along with it ugh... These are terrible I always have to nuke my plants and then half of them are still in the garbage. Neem oil too late for flower. Spinosad too late for flower. -_-
Maat Aatack
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Crap that rely sucks. I'm having issues myself, not sure what it is. Checked the runoff @6.8 with 6.6 going in, so I'm thinking its P or K.
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jujment699
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Those tips look like nute burn, but if you've grown this strain, i believe you probably know how much to feed them. If its on the bottom leaves you probably spilled some water on them and it burned the leaves where it touched, i do this all the time, most of my lower leaves are dead by the end of harvest lol...
So these are indoor? I think i see dirt. How old are they? I always freak out about spots on my leaves and usually its my plants becoming root bound or sitting in their own water for hours.... Ever since i air cooled my lights my water runoff does not evaporate as fast, so it sits for about 9 hours. Thats enough to do some damage. But mine are usually root bound. I open them up and its like a spiderweb and i'm like "holy crap i can't believe i didn't think of this before"
I see your HPS light, phosphorous is much more likely deficient than potassium in flowering. i wouldn't read much into it if you're close to harvest, i do see some tightly receded pistils in your second pic which makes me think you're close to done? If not, memorize the patterns until you water them next, see if there are any new spots before or after you water. I would also check for root bound before flushing because if you flush a rootbound plant its survival rate goes down by a lot because it will just eat itself instead.
Maat Aatack
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Ok well on top of this problem.... Found some spider mites. Now I'm freaking out. Haven't dealt with these bastards in over 20 years. Ordered some organic systemic pesticide, increased airflow... What else? You got any tips?
The303Yeti
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Lady bugs. I use them in my greenhouse.
Tim Fox
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i used azamax have not seen them since spraying azamax and some soap spray from home depot, azamax is sold thru general hydroponics, both were afordable
jujment699
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That's nice that someone besides me is freaking out. These thrips are insane! It's like they exponentially double every day. First it was a few spots Wednesday, whole leaves on Thursday dying, now half my plants are dead!!!! Ugh. Everytime I unzip my tent is like a stab in the heart because they've doubled their population yet again.
Spinosad is realllly good. I use it for every bug ever. It's probably the healthiest to use on flowering buds and had the shortest recovery time... Honestly I've heard ppl using aZamax and they say it works but you gotta give it a few weeks before chopping if you don't wanna smoke poison.
Hit the nail on the head. But make sure your tent is absolutely SEALED. Or your ladybugs will be everywhere... Seriously it's like they're programmed to squeeze through every crack in everything. I once let about 60 in my tent, hours later my whole house was lady bugged it took ages to get rid if them all lol.
Check out the lovely overnight corpsing. These were my healthiest plants. Shriveled and droopy and black
