Who belives in this American Ideology

DelSlow

DelSlow

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Isn't this kind of like "Pick on the new guy?" Think about it. When the polish/ irish came to this country, they were treated like shit. Same goes for the jews. Black people???

I just think migrants from the south are getting it bad right now.
 
thedoc08

thedoc08

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beardo said:
No would be the short answer...
And good luck with that idea....no they will be the ones to kill us or displace us and it's pretty much a wrap nothing to be done about it...hope things hold out but its a question of when not if
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Not sure if I understand the direction of your post. I was stating that on page 1 OP had digressed to a standpoint of "kill them beaners," and not that killing Mexicans is in any way, shape, or form an enjoyable pastime of mine. I really don't enjoy it anymore :P
 
beardo

beardo

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bestbuds09 said:
this is some real bullshit with "american culture". if you want to be more technical we all should be speaking native american language not fucking english, thats pure racism. I could care less who comes here and who stays here. and if a job chooses an immagrant over an american is because of so many reason and one of the main one is because sometimes its cheaper and they work harder. im an american born and raised and truth be told ive been around immigrants and americans and theres nothing different about them as a human being the only thing different is that we all come from diffrent places and have different beliefs. for those that believe that america is only for the white fuck off and pack your bags and take off to england where they really came from. our founding fathers didnt come to america because they wanted to be away from different cultures, they came here because they wanted to be free and away from the imperialism that the kings and queens from engalnd had and to live in harmony togheter.

oh and to clarify on jobs hiring illegals because they are cheaper, its so true but you cant blame the illegals for that only, the job companies have a lot to do with that as well. there are so many companies that are struggling to get "by" so common sense would say the best thing to do now in order to keep your business around for a little bit is to hire cheap work, it may not be the best thing to do but its better that being out of business and have more people on the unemployment lines. i could care less of where you come from or who you are as long as you are an honest person with good intentions you are good in my book. i dont look at colors, race, financial status or any of that. ive met illegal immigrants that will take of their shirt from their back and give to someone that needs it, just becuase you havent came across someone like that dont mean that you can trash a whole race because of it. this is the only country that focuses on what color you are and where you come from, ive been to countless countries and never heard a native mention anything about illegal immigrants coming to their country, as a matter of fact they welcome you not like some dickheads here in the states that make a big deal about it, fucking retards dumb fucks that people can be.
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I guess you haven't been to European countries or Australia? Ask them about immigration. or China hows their attitude twords illegals? If you are for opening the borders - I agree that might be a better solution than what we are currently doing - i'm for either deporting 100% of illegals or opening the borders and granting citizenship and work papers. if we opened the borders and got rid of the border patrol and INS and military we could eliminate our deficit. If we deported illegals we could get rid of unemployment and have good jobs and nice houses -either option sounds good to me
 
The Knuck

The Knuck

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beardo said:
I guess you haven't been to European countries or Australia? Ask them about immigration. If you are for opening the borders - I agree that might be a better solution than what we are couriently doing - i'm for either deporting 100% of illegals or opening the borders and granting citizenship and work papers. if we opened the borders and got rid of the border patrol and INS and military we could eliminate our deficit. If we deported illegals we could get rid of unemployment and have good jobs and nice houses -either option sounds good to me
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If you wanna open your south border go ahaead, but please leave your northern border the way it is.
 
bestbuds09

bestbuds09

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@beardo i see your point and in so many ways i agree of either opening our borders or shutting them out completely. but remember this, the borders will never be fully closed, they will open them its just a matter of time before they open them all the way with a huge sign that read welcome to america.

and truth be told every country suffers from illegal immigrants but not all make a big deal about it like americans do.......

thats my point, crying and putting down a whole race is just plain ignorant. for example like the blacks, just because there are some that act stupid and think they are bad asses does not mean that every black person is the same because they are not. same goes with jews being cheap, just because there are a lot of them that are cheap does not mean all of them are cheap. etc etc etc. the way i look at it is dont judge a whole race just because there are some dumb fucks in that race.....
 
beardo

beardo

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thedoc08 said:
Not sure if I understand the direction of your post. I was stating that on page 1 OP had digressed to a standpoint of "kill them beaners," and not that killing Mexicans is in any way, shape, or form an enjoyable pastime of mine. I really don't enjoy it anymore :P
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you asked if it was worth reading on and I said NO-
Then you were talking about how the Original Poster had said something about killing beaners and I was saying...I don't think that shits happening...If their is some beef with them they might win it this time...I just hope Its not in my life time if it happenes...I don't want them going Machete on all the white people
 
beardo

beardo

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The Knuck said:
If you wanna open your south border go ahaead, but please leave your northern border the way it is.
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Canada enforces their shit...Canadian mounties or who ever your border patrol is doesn't fuck around...their doing their jobs and your INS is doing theirs to...Canada deports illegals.
 
thedoc08

thedoc08

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Then you were talking about how the Original Poster had said something about killing beaners
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I didn't mean that he explicitly said that, I just meant that that's where it looked like his mindset was going at the end of the first page. In black and white "from rational to irrational on one page."
 
beardo

beardo

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bestbuds09 said:
so true and im glad that you see that.....
very good point
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The hiporcracy really gets me because their allowing a lot of people across the border and their is no attempt to stop it or to deport them but we pay for those services. Yes I know some are stopped at the border and some are deported, but if we wanted it 100% enforced we could stop it almost entirely. Like it or not the point of the border and having a huge military is so that we can have an advantage- you work 40 hrs a week and have a house and food and clothes and vacation...someone in another country works 18 hrs a day 7 days a week and has barely enough to eat. Its fucked up but thats reality I say either get rid of that system and admit it's fucked up and resign ourselves to a meager future or embrace it and don't spout off stuff about liberating people but instead about taking oil so we can drive awsome cars and get plasma T.V.'s
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monstagonja

monstagonja

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Michael Phelps said:
Only reason the mexican race isnt "pure" as you put it, is because the conquistadors came over and raped and pillaged their land, same as we did with the Native Americans... Americans need to get over this idea that they are better then everyone else because they are Americans..

Not only do i disagree with your first post 100%, but i believe we should have free boarders across the world, who are you to tell me where i can and cant go, who am i to tell someone the same. Our world will not survive if we dont get past these ignorant and idealistic views...

Shit if i was born in Mexico you bet your sweet ass id come up the U.S. Legally or illegally, whatever it took for me and my family to survive...
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your right about the conquistadors..but not everyone can be an american...if you are from mexico trying to come here go through the right channels...i can care less about anyone coming here legally..its the illegal ones that piss me off..those are the ones that rape and pillage our health care and welfare systems..this money should be going to american citizens...so i take you believe in a one world government
 
beardo

beardo

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It wasn't to long ago the U.S. and mexico were at war and our ancestors were kickin mexicans asses across the border now everyone seems so willing to let them invade and take over land we fought so hard for.
 
beardo

beardo

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beardo said:
bestbuds09 said:
The hiporcracy really gets me because their allowing a lot of people across the border and their is no attempt to stop it or to deport them but we pay for those services. Yes I know some are stopped at the border and some are deported, but if we wanted it 100% enforced we could stop it almost entirely. Like it or not the point of the border and having a huge military is so that we can have an advantage- you work 40 hrs a week and have a house and food and clothes and vacation...someone in another country works 18 hrs a day 7 days a week and has barely enough to eat. Its fucked up but thats reality I say either get rid of that system and admit it's fucked up and resign ourselves to a meager future or embrace it and don't spout off stuff about liberating people but instead about taking oil so we can drive awsome cars and get plasma T.V.'s
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Anyone care to comment on this ^^
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krazy kat

krazy kat

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I do costruction work(plumber) and I still have my job.I haven't had to compete with anyone for my job.Here in North Carolina some people have to compete with Mexicans for their jobs in the construction world not because their mexican but,because employers that will hire them won't pay them a normal wage.Mexicans work for half of what an average worker makes.Employers take advantage of them cause they are illeagal.That in it's self is fucked up.I also look at it this way as well,In Mexico there isn't any real money to made and on top of that cartels are fighting for turf so to speak.If I couldn't make any money and having to dodge bullets and see murders everyday then I would swim the rio grand to get to america.I talked to alot of Mexicans so I got alot of good info on their hard ships.Is not the American dream for all???
 
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