Jimdamick
Well-Known Member
That is the question of all time, because without Trump being removed from office, we're all dead.
Warren and Sanders (Harris is done) want fundamental change: single-payer health care, debt-free college, environmental protections and the end of big money in politics.
But as liberal voters size up the two leading candidates running on those values, Bernie and Elizabeth, one question is impossible to avoid: Can either one beat President Donald Trump?
Even some of the most passionate liberals are not sure Sanders or Warren is up to the task, knowing that Trump will use anything he can to tear them down: age, gender, personal background and, of course, their progressive plans to transform health care and the U.S. economy.
Democrats of all ideological persuasions consistently say their top priority is defeating Trump. And the Sanders and Warren campaigns are aware that no policy plan or campaign trail promise will matter as much as their ability to convince Democratic voters they can do that.
Multiple recent polls suggest that both Warren and Sanders would defeat Trump in a head-to-head matchup. Yet very few Democratic voters actually believe that's the case, and I'm one of them.
Just 9% of Democrats and those leaning Democratic think Warren has the best chance to win a general election, according to a poll released last week by Quinnipiac University. The numbers are only slightly better for Sanders: 12% believe he can beat Trump.
At the same time, 49% say Biden has the best chance to win.
More recent polls show both Warren and Sanders lead Trump in a hypothetical 2020 general election matchup, although Sanders' lead is larger than Warren's.
The poll's noted that each candidate draws his or her support from a different set of voters. While both are popular with liberals, Sanders has a stronger appeal with working-class voters and minorities, while Warren supporters tend to be whiter and more educated.
I want 1st of all to take back the Congress and the WH. That is my priority, so I'm going with Biden
Sanders and Warren and Harris are never going to be accepted by mainstream America, and those are the one's that have to vote for you in order to win.
Sure, I love their ideas, but I'm slightly out of the loop as far as my political ideals go, like gun control, green energy, increasing taxes instead of reducing them and spending less on military and more on social services, education and infrastructure, so my opinion is dead out of the starting gate as far as popular thought goes.
So, what's more important to you?
Ideals, or victory?
Warren and Sanders (Harris is done) want fundamental change: single-payer health care, debt-free college, environmental protections and the end of big money in politics.
But as liberal voters size up the two leading candidates running on those values, Bernie and Elizabeth, one question is impossible to avoid: Can either one beat President Donald Trump?
Even some of the most passionate liberals are not sure Sanders or Warren is up to the task, knowing that Trump will use anything he can to tear them down: age, gender, personal background and, of course, their progressive plans to transform health care and the U.S. economy.
Democrats of all ideological persuasions consistently say their top priority is defeating Trump. And the Sanders and Warren campaigns are aware that no policy plan or campaign trail promise will matter as much as their ability to convince Democratic voters they can do that.
Multiple recent polls suggest that both Warren and Sanders would defeat Trump in a head-to-head matchup. Yet very few Democratic voters actually believe that's the case, and I'm one of them.
Just 9% of Democrats and those leaning Democratic think Warren has the best chance to win a general election, according to a poll released last week by Quinnipiac University. The numbers are only slightly better for Sanders: 12% believe he can beat Trump.
At the same time, 49% say Biden has the best chance to win.
More recent polls show both Warren and Sanders lead Trump in a hypothetical 2020 general election matchup, although Sanders' lead is larger than Warren's.
The poll's noted that each candidate draws his or her support from a different set of voters. While both are popular with liberals, Sanders has a stronger appeal with working-class voters and minorities, while Warren supporters tend to be whiter and more educated.
I want 1st of all to take back the Congress and the WH. That is my priority, so I'm going with Biden
Sanders and Warren and Harris are never going to be accepted by mainstream America, and those are the one's that have to vote for you in order to win.
Sure, I love their ideas, but I'm slightly out of the loop as far as my political ideals go, like gun control, green energy, increasing taxes instead of reducing them and spending less on military and more on social services, education and infrastructure, so my opinion is dead out of the starting gate as far as popular thought goes.
So, what's more important to you?
Ideals, or victory?
