Who else can't stand rap/hip-hop?

DKskater75

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Some awful band. I don't even know what to call them, pop/punk/wanna be rap? I saw them on some late night show last night, dude was wearing these tight ass purple jeans saggin below his ass.
 

ChefWil

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...some guy wearing gold chains waggling his fingers around and talking in time down a microphone whilst some kid turns records backwards manually and another kid presses some keys on a keyboard...

...who else prefers REAL music? Okay, rap started out as a form of country singing...but what happened to it? WHY do people insist on listening to this non-melodic rubbish?

(I know...I'm gonna get a slating here, but WHO'S COMIN' WITH ME?!) :peace: bongsmilie
A very great singer once said "Honey, if you don't get the music then your not supposed to yet" Give it time and give it another try, who knows. I used to hate Hip Hop and Rap but now I really enjoy it...... and they say you can't teach an old dawg
 

NateHevens

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Hattin on my rap, my hip-hop, and my culture sounds like racism to me.
I must admit I don't get that. I don't hate on anybody's culture. So if I started a thread about Blues and Classic Rock and you went on said that kind of music was crap, not worth-it, etc, can I call you racist for hating on my music and my culture (that is, white)?

And aren't their white rappers? I'd say some of the worst rap comes from white rappers.
 

eyesdembleed

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I must admit I don't get that. I don't hate on anybody's culture. So if I started a thread about Blues and Classic Rock and you went on said that kind of music was crap, not worth-it, etc, can I call you racist for hating on my music and my culture (that is, white)?

And aren't their white rappers? I'd say some of the worst rap comes from white rappers.
If you started that thread It would be all good but this thread is a rant on my music. your thread would be about loving your music. as i said me being me and you being you.

Jedi Mind trick hands down one of my top 3 rappers. He is Italian who took up Islam with a Buddist Dj. everybody needs to check dem out. I didnt hate on white ppl who pick up on my music aslong as they respect it. all dis hardcore wigger bull that runs through high schools looks bad on all of us. Just couse one burns it dosnt make one a bad ass weed head that looks so good on real leagalization.
 

NateHevens

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If you started that thread It would be all good but this thread is a rant on my music. your thread would be about loving your music. as i said me being me and you being you.
But that isn't the point. The fallacy I'm trying to point out has nothing to do with the OP or the context of the thread. It has to do with one specific post. I don't care why the thread was started. If someone is racist for dissing your music, then I think you should be considered racist for dissing their music.

It'd be one thing if one of the non-black members had posted on this thread that all rappers were fried-chicken-eating, watermelon-eating, koolaid-drinking n*i**rs. Then I'd be screaming racism along with everyone else because, let's be honest... that's a racist-as-hell statement to make. But no one did. They just said rap sucks. It doesn't matter the skin-color of the rapper. Hating on a musical genre is not racist, regardless of what race likes it more. And calling it racism is being just little bit too happy to pull the racism card.

That's the point I'm trying to make: people (white, black, asian, mexican, native american, middle-eastern... it doesn't matter) need to be a little less willing to pull the racism card.

Jedi Mind trick hands down one of my top 3 rappers. He is Italian who took up Islam with a Buddist Dj. everybody needs to check dem out. I didnt hate on white ppl who pick up on my music aslong as they respect it. all dis hardcore wigger bull that runs through high schools looks bad on all of us. Just couse one burns it dosnt make one a bad ass weed head that looks so good on real leagalization.
I've heard Jedi Mind Trick, and while I respect their talent and can see quite easily why anyone would like them, it's just not for me.

Like I said. The real reason I don't like rap is because I need more music in my... music. I need more guitar (preferably with good solos), better drumming, maybe some keyboard, and, finally, less sampling and more actually playing instruments (like The Roots). Now, if I could find rap music in this vein... talented playing, some guitar and guitar solos, etc, I could get into it quite easily. But as it stands, rap just isn't musical enough for me.
 

eyesdembleed

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But that isn't the point. The fallacy I'm trying to point out has nothing to do with the OP or the context of the thread. It has to do with one specific post. I don't care why the thread was started. If someone is racist for dissing your music, then I think you should be considered racist for dissing their music
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When did i dis anyones music? I think the fallacy is the point of this thread. if mr. bob newbie who started this thread luved music at all he would have started a "i luv blues rock who else does". not take the time to hate on others
 

DKskater75

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When did i dis anyones music? I think the fallacy is the point of this thread. if mr. bob newbie who started this thread luved music at all he would have started a "i luv blues rock who else does". not take the time to hate on others
That's about the most logic I've heard out of this thread lol. I don't like rap much either but I'm not about to start hating on everyone else who does. Although there are some out there that aren't all about the bling bling, bitches and hoes and all that nonsense, i.e. Sage Francis or Immortal Technique. Now those are some damn good rappers.
 

NateHevens

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When did i dis anyones music? I think the fallacy is the point of this thread. if mr. bob newbie who started this thread luved music at all he would have started a "i luv blues rock who else does". not take the time to hate on others

See, you're taking it personally. I never said that you specifically dissed anyone's music. Somebody on here (can't remember if it was you or not) said that it seemed racist to hate on rap. The point I'm trying to make is this:

If a white person who hates on rap is racist, then is a black person who hates on rock racist as well?

The point I am now restating for the third time is that it seems really stupid to call someone racist for hating on a genre of music. That is my point. I don't care why this or any other thread was started.

I am aware that this thread was started with the premise of hating on rap, and while I did participate in it, I thought the OP could have been a little more informative as to why (s)he didn't like rap and not reliant on personal opinions (rap sucks!... why does it suck, to you?). And I also don't think the posts about "only ignorant people listen to rap" aren't helping much (Neil De Grass Tyson listens to rap [although he prefers cleaner rap like Will Smith and deeper rap like Tu Pac to the Top 40 crap of today], and he sure-as-hell ain't ignorant). But I still think calling someone racist for hating on a genre of music is stupid.

And that's my point. It isn't in the context of this thread. I'm talking about in general.


ETA...
I'm not disagreeing with you. I agree that, in context, this thread is pointless and stupid (although it could help some curious people, like me, to find some rap I might actually enjoy). However, I'm talking about in general, and you're staying in context of this thread.

In other words... this thread is pointless and stupid... but I do not think it's fair to call it racist.
 

eyesdembleed

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I said this thread was startin to sound racist becouse it went from da music to the cloths so whats next. I was feelin the thread was startin to run in a direction

If a white person who hates on rap is racist, then is a black person who hates on rock racist as well?
yes if it goes as far as saying rock isnt music and its for ignorant ppl.

oh and on the top40 rap is just as bad as everyones fav band Jones Brothers. fruit snack rap=pop rock if u ask me

but im agreeing with others. done wit this thread. respect to Nate
 

NateHevens

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^I'm gonna follow your lead and retire myself from this thread, too. Check your PMs.

I beg fellow posters to let me uphold a reputation I have at other boards and be the killer of this thread, because I agree that maybe this thread should die.
 
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