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keeper1981

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Who else here grows indoor keeps it simple using non hydroponic nutrients not buying into hype and marketing, does not measure ph, does not check trichromes to judge maturity, heavily defoliates all through flowering, and generally goes against the grain of forum posts and peoples opinions and still gets good results.

I personally have been growing for years and have followed all the hype and marketing. And did do pretty well. A few years ago I decided to try an experiment using very cheap powder form nutrients from my local hardware store. Not measure ph levels defoliate the crap out of plants during flower break and bend branches. And my results were just as good as if I spent hundreds of dollars on products. The only thing I buy from hydro stores now is hps bulbs. And I spend roughly 40 dollars on nutrients and compressed coco blocks per grow. Not to mention time saved by simply scooping my powder and adding water. If I get a deficiency I simply flush out with tap water and start the schedule again. I water every two to three days first watering full strength, next watering half strength, next straight water then repeat. Each watering gives a around 8 to ten litres run off in 50 litre pots.

Anyone else keep it simple saving money and time treats there plants rough as shit and does well? In the last couple years I have not looked back. Hydro stores to me are in general full of hype and they are out for one thing......the all mighty dollar. You only have to look at nutrient bottles with fancy names and artistic pictures and not be a follower to work that out.....at the end of the day it is a plant it only needs basic elements to survive and thrive.
 
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VACAVILLE,CA.GROWER

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keeper1981 said:
Who else here grows indoor keeps it simple using non hydroponic nutrients not buying into hype and marketing, does not measure ph, does not check trichromes to judge maturity, heavily defoliates all through flowering, and generally goes against the grain of forum posts and peoples opinions and still gets good results.

I personally have been growing for years and have followed all the hype and marketing. And did do pretty well. A few years ago I decided to try an experiment using very cheap powder form nutrients from my local hardware store. Not measure ph levels defoliate the crap out of plants during flower break and bend branches. And my results were just as good as if I spent hundreds of dollars on products. The only thing I buy from hydro stores now is hps bulbs. And I spend roughly 40 dollars on nutrients and compressed coco blocks per grow. Not to mention time saved by simply scooping my powder and adding water. If I get a deficiency I simply flush out with tap water and start the schedule again. I water every two to three days first watering full strength, next watering half strength, next straight water then repeat. Each watering gives a around 8 to ten litres run off in 50 litre pots.

Anyone else keep it simple saving money and time treats there plants rough as shit and does well? In the last couple years I have not looked back. Hydro stores to me are in general full of hype and they are out for one thing......the all mighty dollar. You only have to look at nutrient bottles with fancy names and artistic pictures and not be a follower to work that out.....at the end of the day it is a plant it only needs basic elements to survive and thrive.
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Hello how are you? I try to keep things simple. I was just curious on what cheap powder form nutrients do you use? name of nutes, what name of store?
 
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I do KISS, Lucas style Hempy's but I have not found anything simpler than that as far as chemical. For pure ease I would say Orgamic soil is the best, no need to check anything but you have to use RO water.
 
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VACAVILLE said:
Hello how are you? I try to keep things simple. I was just curious on what cheap powder form nutrients do you use? name of nutes, what name of store?
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Hi there, firstly I live in Australia we have a hardware chain called bunnings. I grow in coco heres my nutrients
VACAVILLE said:
Hello how are you? I try to keep things simple. I was just curious on what cheap powder form nutrients do you use? name of nutes, what name of store?
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Hi there I live in Australia and grow in coco we have a hardware chain called bunnings. I use this stuff called thrive one for grow one for flower. 7 dollars a pack20150710_005933.jpg
 
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vitamin_green_inc said:
I do KISS, Lucas style Hempy's but I have not found anything simpler than that as far as chemical. For pure ease I would say Orgamic soil is the best, no need to check anything but you have to use RO water.
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Hey mate i grow in coco i am not familiar with hempys. Hydroponic growing my nutrients may not work and ph probably needs attention. But coco is my choice
 
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I think keeping things simple, learning how each nute effects the plant, what ratios you prefer, how your strains react to different stimuli etc is the way to start. Once you know how your gonna train, have perpetual setups going strong and can really read your plants, theres nothing simple.

Kiss is great for beginners, preventing mishaps. But the phrase is dropped in secondary/higher education as instead of simple, everything is controlled and the more complications are for safety and consistency as well as accuracy-improvements . All nutes and micro nutes, the amount of water, amount of light, intensity and length plus spectrum. rh, cfm of air at that rh temp, ec/ppm, ph, etc...

Are controlled and understood..so when being altered would have an effect yiu desire.

Is this necessary? Of course not and a box of miracle grow bloom booster with maybe calmag will get yiu through an entire grow with dank bud and good yields. Bout as kiss as it gets..which is fine. Yiu dont have to try and move past that stage
 
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qwizoking said:
I think keeping things simple, learning how each nute effects the plant, what ratios you prefer, how your strains react to different stimuli etc is the way to start. Once you know how your gonna train, have perpetual setups going strong and can really read your plants, theres nothing simple.

Kiss is great for beginners, preventing mishaps. But the phrase is dropped in secondary/higher education as instead of simple, everything is controlled and the more complications are for safety and consistency as well as accuracy-improvements . All nutes and micro nutes, the amount of water, amount of light, intensity and length plus spectrum. rh, cfm of air at that rh temp, ec/ppm, ph, etc...

Are controlled and understood..so when being altered would have an effect yiu desire.

Is this necessary? Of course not and a box of miracle grow bloom booster with maybe calmag will get yiu through an entire grow with dank bud and good yields. Bout as kiss as it gets..which is fine. Yiu dont have to try and move past that stage
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Thanks for clarifying that for me. I personally these days cant be bothered with that stuff. So for me just as good yields as easy as possible is what I am after. I guess also after many years of growing have lost interest in the science of it. I just wanna set n forget and also show people the expensive more in depth way is not the only way as people are led to believe. Anyway thanks for your reply and clarification.
 
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You can get nice buds and great yields by KISS.. If your growing for personal stash then nothing wrong with it, if u work for some company growing commercial buds then you have to get complicated. By simple im not saying retarded.

I mix fox farm happy frog and ocean forest together with a little bit of dolomite lime ( because FF soils lack calcium and magnesium, im actually upset with FF's soil products but thats another story) I use fox farms trio of nutrients and pH my feed before watering my plants. I train my plants with LST or a combo of LST and topping depending on photo or auto. Just to name a few things, but that is still simple to me. Im not building my own soil or building my own tea for nutes, thats the difference between KISS and complicated in my book.

Again for what i grow for KISS isnt bad at all.
 
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I break every forum growing rule/myth there is K.I.S.S. is a wonderful motto to grow by, I use Jacks Citrus and Aquagold an $11 tub last a year in my garden and gives wonderful results
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I'm still pulling pound plants why would I change back
 
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keeper1981 said:
I like your style....
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Thank you,

I'll give ya some more of it

I reuse my medium, have 42 grows in one bale of peat so far

I flower with T5's

I feed chem nutes till the end and don't flush

I have never owned any kind of carbon scrubber as my plants never stink

I have lots of light leaks and don't get hermies LOL

and I pull more than pound from my little 5 X 5 area every round, got 22 oz's last round

and yeppers the donkey dick in the pic is a 20 inch cola on a 34 inch plant that just finished week 7 of flower :)
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RM3 said:
Thank you,

I'll give ya some more of it

I reuse my medium, have 42 grows in one bale of peat so far

I flower with T5's

I feed chem nutes till the end and don't flush

I have never owned any kind of carbon scrubber as my plants never stink

I have lots of light leaks and don't get hermies LOL

and I pull more than pound from my little 5 X 5 area every round, got 22 oz's last round

and yeppers the donkey dick in the pic is a 20 inch cola on a 34 inch plant that just finished week 7 of flower :)
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Very nice I like it........I use 2 4x4x7 tents 600 hps carbon filter single plant setups. and pull about a pound in each tent which is what the space I have allows.......yeah the light leak hermies along with all the other myths. I love the myths they give me something to laugh at.
 
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