Who thinks TRUE "MTF" (matanuska valley thunder-f%#k) seeds are truly available online???

OldAK-MTF907

OldAK-MTF907

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Yeah...basically just the title! And I intend to direct this question more so to Alaskan natives (people native to AK...lol!) or really anyone who lived in the valley & took part in growing/distributing/smoking during the 70's-80's. I was born & raised there from the late 70's on through the 2000's & have heard about every silly myth, urban legend sounding version you can imagine from a thousand different half brained, foolish wannabe "old school" dipshits that claim THEY HAVE the original strain in one form or another, or that they know someone who does. It would be fun if nothing else to hear some 1st hand accounts/"back in the day" experiences regarding this brutiful, wicked BA dank that I sentimentally recall from my youth! Have at 'er! Anyone remember it and really believe a long string of AK valley police raids forced a small handful of lucky growers (more or less) who posessed it out of state with the holy grail of historical Alaskan chronic (MTF) unscathed & in hand, only to pop up for purchase (the seeds anyhow) online many years later?
 
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Odin*

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Seeds, I say “nay”, but my opinion does not make it improbable.

I lucked into it years ago. It went as easily as everything else, I didn’t think it was “exceptional”, until I let it go, and everyone began to ask “Where’s that MTF?!”.
 
SchmoeJoe

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Odin* said:
Seeds, I say “nay”, but my opinion does not make it improbable.

I lucked into it years ago. It went as easily as everything else, I didn’t think it was “exceptional”, until I let it go, and everyone began to ask “Where’s that MTF?!”.
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Odds are the strain was adapted through breeding to the local environment and wouldn't be the same anywhere else.
 
macsnax

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So I take it the seeds of this strain that are for sale online are bunk? I live in Colorado and remember hearing about this strain in the 90's.
 
SchmoeJoe

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macsnax said:
So I take it the seeds of this strain that are for sale online are bunk? I live in Colorado and remember hearing about this strain in the 90's.
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Except for the few old school strains from breeders that have been around a long time like Greenhouse or DJ Short I'm doubtful about anything's origins that claims to be an original "old school" strain. The most likely thing to find will be bastardized hybrids of the original or even something someone just started calling that. Just think about how many kushes or Durbans are actually hybrids.
 
macsnax

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SchmoeJoe said:
Except for the few old school strains from breeders that have been around a long time like Greenhouse or DJ Short I'm doubtful about anything's origins that claims to be an original "old school" strain. The most likely thing to find will be bastardized hybrids of the original or even something someone just started calling that. Just think about how many kushes or Durbans are actually hybrids.
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I hear you on the amount of SHIT out there. Makes it tough for people to weed out the bs from what you're actually looking for.
 
Evil-Mobo

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RM3 said:
Nope, Colorado Thunder Fuck, not related to MTF/ATF at all
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Ok well my apologies and thanks for the clarification.

FYI #357 is on deck here for me and will be in the next group of beans to get popped I can't wait :)
 
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OldAK-MTF907

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Odin* said:
Seeds, I say “nay”, but my opinion does not make it improbable.

I lucked into it years ago. It went as easily as everything else, I didn’t think it was “exceptional”, until I let it go, and everyone began to ask “Where’s that MTF?!”.
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No kiddin' eh? Yeah, there were many strains around when I was really a heavy smoker, I recall getting my hands on a strain of blueberry (which I'm assuming would have been some seriously old, direct strain being it was something around 23-25 years ago in AK, it had a light flourescent green color, hairs also had a light orange color almost like pastels but the smell and taste were as close to a warm blueberry muffin as I have ever witnessed, & created a major debate among my circle and outside locally as to whether I or the person I got it from-had somehow spliced a blueberry's DNA with weed or had some magic blueberry flavored elixir that I put into the soil...I'm not joking or exaggerating!) some amazingly sweet fruity yet sparse fluffy weed being dubbed "the REAL hawaiin tutti frutti", a couple different strains of purple kush that were so utterly purple not only in color, but also the telltale bitter flavor, we eventually ended up calling "baby poop bud" due to that strangely beautiful yet putred funk it emitted, etc. But I have to admit the REAL MTF ( or at least what the few hippy pothead parents of my friends called MTF during ritual "safety meetings" they held when us kids were told to go play outside & would come back inside "post session" to some pleasently sweet yet semi-musky funky fragrance that stung our nostrils) and once we got old enough, the quazi-dark/light colored dank that would stick to the bag so bad you'd have to pry it out that the same older folks would give us a little nug of from time to time and send our teenage brains into orbit!
 
OldAK-MTF907

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SchmoeJoe said:
Sagarmatha Seeds is the only seed company I know of that claims to but I'm sure there's some people out there out that do.
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I'm sure you're absolutely correct...I can only wish they would come out of their caves and bring it back to society so I could cultivate a couple forests of my own! I've also heard Sagarmatha has what's considered to be the living "down-lying" of MTF..though I've also read bits about something calling itself "ATF", "Alaska Tundra" (or something similar) etc...I guess I can respect and appreciate growers that don't use the original moniker if they know their strain to be of different origin just to sell a product though!
 
SchmoeJoe

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OldAK-MTF907 said:
No kiddin' eh? Yeah, there were many strains around when I was really a heavy smoker, I recall getting my hands on a strain of blueberry (which I'm assuming would have been some seriously old, direct strain being it was something around 23-25 years ago in AK, it had a light flourescent green color, hairs also had a light orange color almost like pastels but the smell and taste were as close to a warm blueberry muffin as I have ever witnessed, & created a major debate among my circle and outside locally as to whether I or the person I got it from-had somehow spliced a blueberry's DNA with weed or had some magic blueberry flavored elixir that I put into the soil...I'm not joking or exaggerating!) some amazingly sweet fruity yet sparse fluffy weed being dubbed "the REAL hawaiin tutti frutti", a couple different strains of purple kush that were so utterly purple not only in color, but also the telltale bitter flavor, we eventually ended up calling "baby poop bud" due to that strangely beautiful yet putred funk it emitted, etc. But I have to admit the REAL MTF ( or at least what the few hippy pothead parents of my friends called MTF during ritual "safety meetings" they held when us kids were told to go play outside & would come back inside "post session" to some pleasently sweet yet semi-musky funky fragrance that stung our nostrils) and once we got old enough, the quazi-dark/light colored dank that would stick to the bag so bad you'd have to pry it out that the same older folks would give us a little nug of from time to time and send our teenage brains into orbit!
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The one I always heard was that you had to grow the weed plant close enough to a blueberry plant for the roots to get intertwined.
 
OldAK-MTF907

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GreatwhiteNorth said:
If you manage to root out an original strain I volunteer to propagate the linage.

I've looked for it since the 70's with no luck, but I'm not in the valley.
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Well...if real luck prevails...I guess stranger things have happened! I actually have a "currently misplaced" little plastic medication bottle packed FULL of many different bag seeds I collected through the years in Alaska. Many are seperately bagged, some are labeled as well as you'd expect a young connissuer, NOT a breeder to do, (example would be "nice crystally sour, or sticky dark orange, etc.) lol! Anyhow...someday when this mini "green holy grail" finds its way back into my hands I'll have some bizarre, forgotten dankness that has been long lost!
 
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