Why are conspiracy theorists so dumb?

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kinetic

kinetic

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prin, what do you think of the tetanus shots? Seemed liked a good shot to get when I had a job that led to alot of metal handling. I'm asking seriously btw, not some set up or anything.
 
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jtprin

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cannabineer said:
Oh dear. I must resist.

... so ... hard ...
~grunt of supreme effort!!~
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How so? Calcium fluoride is naturally occurring and sodium fluoride is what is added to tap water and toothpastes. It's also used in rat poison, insecticides/fungicides, and in the making of aluminum and steel. You're advised to contact poison control if you swallow toothpaste due to its content of sodium fluoride... but it's okay to put in drinking water? TUHHHH!
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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jtprin said:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22235053
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Let me guess...

1. you found this in a natural news article.
2. you didn't understand what the abstract is even saying
3. you didn't bother to check out the full text because you don't even understand the abstract
4. the person who wrote the natural news article doesn't understand it either.

I also don't understand why you can't grasp how "poisons" and "toxins" are entirely dose dependent. EVERYTHING is bad for you in high enough doses, and everything is safe at low enough doses. It's all about understanding what those thresholds are. Pour salt on a snail and it will kill. Yet to say salt is a toxin in and of itself and that the no trace of salt should ever be in the snails system would be ridiculous, at least if you understand anything about biology.

You know what else is used in rat poison, insecticide/fungicide, and the making of aluminum and steel? Dihydrogen monoxide. There are also more deaths from this substance than all vaccines put together in the history of vaccines. I'd be willing to bet the government is piping it directly into your house too.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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jtprin said:
How so? Calcium fluoride is naturally occurring and sodium fluoride is what is added to tap water and toothpastes. It's also used in rat poison, insecticides/fungicides, and in the making of aluminum and steel. You're advised to contact poison control if you swallow toothpaste due to its content of sodium fluoride... but it's okay to put in drinking water? TUHHHH!
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It's just that fluoride ion is fluoride ion. It's one of the least impressionable gangstas in the entire world of completed ion shells. The counterions are called "spectators" because that lyrically describes their lack of function.

Also, a poison is all about dosing. At a high enough dose, water is plainly toxic. At a low enough dose, selenium and some other halides (e.g. iodide) are outright nutrients. Fwiw.
 
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jtprin

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guy incognito said:
Let me guess...

1. you found this in a natural news article.
2. you didn't understand what the abstract is even saying
3. you didn't bother to check out the full text because you don't even understand the abstract
4. the person who wrote the natural news article doesn't understand it either.

I also don't understand why you can't grasp how "poisons" and "toxins" are entirely dose dependent. EVERYTHING is bad for you in high enough doses, and everything is safe at low enough doses. It's all about understanding what those thresholds are. Pour salt on a snail and it will kill. Yet to say salt is a toxin in and of itself and that the no trace of salt should ever be in the snails system would be ridiculous, at least if you understand anything about biology.

You know what else is used in rat poison, insecticide/fungicide, and the making of aluminum and steel? Dihydrogen monoxide. There are also more deaths from this substance than all vaccines put together in the history of vaccines. I'd be willing to bet the government is piping it directly into your house too.
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Oh, look, another ad hominem argument because you don't have anything legitimate to say. Where is your scientific evidence that adding sodium fluoride to tap water is good for teeth? Even small doses of sodium fluoride is harmful because it accumulates in bones, teeth, and other parts of the body. Sodium fluoride lowers IQ and causes a wide variety of health ailments. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1852689/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18001709 http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11571&page=205 http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/01/an-overwhelming-number-of-scientific-studies-conclude-that-cavity-levels-are-falling-worldwide-even-in-countries-which-dont-fluoridate-water.html http://jada.ada.org/content/141/10/1190.abstract
 
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jtprin

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cannabineer said:
It's just that fluoride ion is fluoride ion. It's one of the least impressionable gangstas in the entire world of completed ion shells. The counterions are called "spectators" because that lyrically describes their lack of function.

Also, a poison is all about dosing. At a high enough dose, water is plainly toxic. At a low enough dose, selenium and some other halides (e.g. iodide) are outright nutrients. Fwiw.
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Poison is not all about dosing. Some substances may need a certain amount of it to KILL you but that does not mean it is not toxic even in small doses. Also not what I was talking about anyways. Calcium fluoride naturally occurs, sodium fluoride is an industrial waste product. Are you saying the difference is so insignificant that it doesn't matter which one is added to the water?
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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jtprin said:
Oh, look, another ad hominem argument because you don't have anything legitimate to say. Where is your scientific evidence that adding sodium fluoride to tap water is good for teeth? Even small doses of sodium fluoride is harmful because it accumulates in bones, teeth, and other parts of the body. Sodium fluoride lowers IQ and causes a wide variety of health ailments. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1852689/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18001709 http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11571&page=205 http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/01/an-overwhelming-number-of-scientific-studies-conclude-that-cavity-levels-are-falling-worldwide-even-in-countries-which-dont-fluoridate-water.html http://jada.ada.org/content/141/10/1190.abstract
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How is what I said an ad hominem? Why didn't you address any of my points? I don't need to have any evidence that it is good to be able to call you out on your bullshit.

1. Did you get the link from a natural news article, or did you independently find it?
2. Did you understand the abstract? If so please explain it to me.
3. Did you check out the full article? I tried to but none of the sources worked for me. I am curious to know if you actually checked it out and read it.
4. I have no evidence to support this claim, other than the fact that every single time I check into your sources this turns out to be the case. I am willing to bet it is also the case this time.
 
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jtprin

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guy incognito said:
How is what I said an ad hominem? Why didn't you address any of my points? I don't need to have any evidence that it is good to be able to call you out on your bullshit.

1. Did you get the link from a natural news article, or did you independently find it?
2. Did you understand the abstract? If so please explain it to me.
3. Did you check out the full article? I tried to but none of the sources worked for me. I am curious to know if you actually checked it out and read it.
4. I have no evidence to support this claim, other than the fact that every single time I check into your sources this turns out to be the case. I am willing to bet it is also the case this time.
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Because you did not address them as questions before. I did not find that link on NaturalNews, I found it elsewhere. I do understand the abstract... antiphospholipid syndrome was induced by the tetanus vaccine in two different non-autoimmune prone mouse strains, resulting in reduced fertility and increased embryo deaths. I didn't read the full article.
 
see4

see4

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conspiracy theorists, like prin are dumb.. because god made them that way. there is no explainin it.. they just are here to bother the shit out of us. like finsppoogy.

in short. jtprin is like finsppooogy. they will have man babies one day.
 
Lady Helena

Lady Helena

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loquacious said:
Just a bit, I just wish people would educate themselves before spreading rampant theories. I figure if maybe one person would wise up and actually do a little research, I would feel a lot better!
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Here's some research.

[video]http://www.i-sis.org.uk/list.php[/video]

You were saying....
 
Orithil

Orithil

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jtprin said:
How so? Calcium fluoride is naturally occurring and sodium fluoride is what is added to tap water and toothpastes. It's also used in rat poison, insecticides/fungicides, and in the making of aluminum and steel. You're advised to contact poison control if you swallow toothpaste due to its content of sodium fluoride... but it's okay to put in drinking water? TUHHHH!
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Actually, if you bother to look, there are around 500 different things that can be labelled as Fluoride and put into the water, the most common being fluorosilicic acid...which has a MSDS that states accidental contact can cause permanent injury or death.
 
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