why are these dying?

View attachment 1448468View attachment 1448469View attachment 1448470View attachment 1448471View attachment 1448472View attachment 1448473View attachment 1448474ok my girls are on day 32 of 12/12 600 hps. 3 gallon soil bags, pro mix ultimate organic. nute mix was 4 ml grow, 5 ml bloom, and 5 ml blackstrap molasses, they were watered 3 days ago, on feb 15. had some yellowing then, but now have death and is much worse. how can i help them to come back? what did i do wrong? any other info i will give. EXCEPT ppm. i dont have a meter, the ph is around 6-6.5 after the nutes.

these girls still have at least another month before they should be ready to pulkl. but if i cant fix this im gonna have to flush and pull like 4 weeks early!!


this is the analysis on the grow nute

Guaranteed Analysis
Total Nitrogen (N)……………………………………..………………..3.00%
1.80% Ammoniacal Nitrogen
1.12% Water Soluble Nitrogen
0.08% Nitrate Nitrogen
Available Phosphate (P2O5)……………………..……………………1.00%
Soluble Potash (K20)……………………………………………………3.00%
Calcium (Ca)……………………………………………………………..1.00%
DERIVED FROM: Ocean Fish, Soy Protein, Seaweed Extract, Yucca Extract, Magnesium Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Soft Rock Phosphate and Cane Molasses.
Directions:
General Application: Use at a rate of 5 -15ml per gallon of water.
Foliar Application: Use at a rate of 5-10ml per gallon of finished spray solution
Compost Tea Brewing: Use a ratio of 1 part Natural Grow to 100 Parts Compost Tea Solution.



this is for the bloom nute
Guaranteed Analysis:
Available Phosphate (P2O5)………… 10.00%
Calcium (Ca)……………..……………. 10.00%
Derived From: Soft Rock Phosphate and Kelp.
ALSO CONTAINS NON-PLANT FOOD INGREDIENT:
2% Yucca Extract
Directions:
General Application: Use at a rate of 5-10ml per gallon of water.
Foliar Application: Use at a rate of 5ml per gallon of finished spray solution.

the blackstrap is house and herbs blackstrap molasses, sodium is 1% 15 mg sugars 15g
just noticed it says 70% iron. could this be from too much iron? that is for 1 tbspn, i have been using 5 ml wich is the same.

heres what i could find on the soil...





Product Details
One 1 Cubic Foot bag is the same as 31 Quarts or 28 Liters

The Mycorise works naturally to enlarge the plants roots, which allow the plant to take-in more of the essential nutrients needed for growing stronger and healthier. The Sea-based compost is derived from shrimp by-products, seaweed, and/or softwood bark. This mixture works as a slow-release fertilizer, gradually feeding plants

Pro-Mix Ultimate Organic Mix contains:
Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss
Sea-based Compost
Limestone
Perlite
Mycorise
It works great for:
Seeding (Vegetables, Herbs, Annuals, Perennials)
Potting (Houseplants and Patio planters)
Planting (Flower, Fruits and Vegetable Gardens )
It is recommended for use on plants growing in a pH between 5.5 – 7.0, see our Soil Testers for an easy-to-use tester. For best results use this mix along with a complete fertilizer.

One 1 Cu. Ft. Bag Will Fill:

62 – 4" Round Pots
15 – 6" Round Pots
10 – 8" Hanging Baskets
7 – 8" Round Pots
5 – 10" Hanging Baskets
4 – 11" Hanging Baskets
3 – 12" Hanging Baskets
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whuts the run down, space/lighting, nute application and did u over do them.....equipment....give me alist of whut ur workin with...whuts ur ph and whuts ur pph, whut r ur temps like???? how humid is it, all this matters... how close is ur light..... does ur light match the space u r workin with... ya gott em this far DO NOT give up and cut them unless there is no other option. get back to me just trying to help. i know u posted alot of info already but still list it all down 1 by 1, everything need a visual.....

space, 4x4x7 grow tent, lighting 400 hps, ph around 6-6.5, dont know ppm, hoping to get ride to hydro shop to find out. light is about 12-16 inches above tops, depending on the plant. temps are in the low 70's low would be 63 high would be 75, i mixed the nutes in 1 gal milk jugs then let them set over night before pouring the one gallon between the 4 plants, i had an issue with overwatering earlier. i pour enough to soak the soil then switch plants revolving the pattern untill the gallon is empty, because there is almost instant runoff if i just pour the plants wter straight in without letting it moisten some first. any thing else i can tell you i will.

ok i too am running a 400w hps now.... and i had to raise the light to 26" for my 3x3 closet if that helps at all....i looked around to see if there is n e thing that could help u and ur ladies and went to a site i use alot call www.simplyhydro.com, try CANNA RHIZOTONIC i'll pm u the info on it .... so temps sound good/ ph sounds good.....lights sound lil close..cloude raise em up a lil......damn....have u tried straight ph'ed water for a few waterings????? lesson the strength of ur nutes if u dont want to stop nutes and do fresh water ph'ed......let me ask around some more...

First step for me would be to calibrate my PH meter and check my runoff.

getting samples now to take to the hydro shop, getting "fresh water" normal nute strength mix, runoff after just phd' water. not even really sure what i need to take with me

thanx shwagbag, tryin to thinnk of everything i can , but im new at this ...

i took my samples into the store a little bit ago, and we came to the conclusion that i am suffering from N deficency. big time... trying to figure out how im going to fix this. also thinking about a big time flush, as the hydro shop guy thought it was an iron def, and suggested i flush to solve it... any other input is appreciated, and as soon as i get a chance im gonna give u all rep.

It doesn't look good. How often are you watering them and how often are they getting fertilizer? When I'm 32 days in and using 3 gallon pots my girls drink a lot more water than you are giving yours but I only water an average 2-3 times per week. Are you letting the soil dry before you water them again? Are you alternating when they get fertilizer?

Keep the post near the top and perhaps some of the more experienced growers can help.

I would agree with that, it looks just like N deficiency but I've never seen that happen in the middle of flowering. The question is, why? What were the results of their PH tests? Did they check your runoff?

yeah i agree with shwag..., and ur shop guy..is on to something there....flushing could save save em if thy r not too far gone.....
@ every one else viewing !!!!!!!! whut is the worst that could happen.?????....n e body have a clue if flushing a sick flowering plant could hurt it or just plain kill it...?????????
is there a chance for a positive out come...we need more help over here.....sorry for ranting........

Since you have been feeding them both N and Iron I'm guessing its PH related. If you're under 6.5 PH its also unlikely there's any iron deficiency. Personally I would flush with 3 x the volume of the pot, calibrate PH meter, feed with higher PH of 6.5-7 measure the runoff and cross my fingers.

so ur girls gettin n e better?????

From the second I saw the pics I knew it was N deficiency. It'll be difficult to bring them back now. Looks like you didn't feed them enough while in veg, otherwise they would have stored enough N in their leaves to last longer then they have.

Then you are only giving them 1 gallon per 4 plants. Thats not enough. Budding plants suck up water like a sponge.

I'll bet that if you get a 5-gallon bucket full of water, slowly pour it into one of the plant pots,totally covering the surface, as much as the pot will hold with-out spilling over the sides, 1/4 bucket at a time(4 pours) that pot will start to bubble.
This is trapped air escaping. By pouring in quarters you are pulling fresh air down into the roots.

I suggest mixing some grow fertz with that water for the first go around, see it the leaves start to green up. They may need a couple feedings. Uncle Ben is an advocate that keeping the leaves green creates the best buds. I have no problem taking his lead, and hit them with grow whenever I think they need it....even though-out flowering.


hope I helped.