shrxhky420
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thanks canna i'm off my soap box. stay high
Why bash Islam?
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Kaendar
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Im not gonna start another debate. I was just answering your question.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Never a worry. There is a certain futility to playing philosophical Celebrity Deathmatch. I save my hit points for the cold-call evangelists. cn
Red1966
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Good luck with that!
Kaendar
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This was too funny
shrxhky420
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is Michigan a MMJ state? LOL. stay high
Red1966
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No, he's correct. Brainwashed? Blame on Bush? How can anyone be so ignorant of current events and recent history?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
1.- your religion is the only one that gives eternal salvation through violence... immolation is an option as well
2.- your religion is the only one that enacts fatwa's that declare any non-Muslim an enemy of Islam and therefore must converted otherwise terminated
3.- even within small Muslim sects they are persecuted by bigger fundamentalist sects.
not all Muslims are terrorists. true
but all religious terrorists are Muslims.
basically Islam is where the Catholic Church was during the middle ages. Inquisition; killing in the name of a god.
the only thing i'll give Islam is the urge keep their traditions and values not influenced by the western powers.
in your defense it all comes down to the US involvement in foreign affairs.
Kaendar
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Hmm... you have alot wrong in your post. You said "your religion" twice.. when did I ever say I was a muslim? Poor assumption made on your part. You also said that all religious terrorists are muslims. Once again very wrong, in the middle east there are just as many extremist Jewish and Christian terrorist sects. And the Catholic church is still basically killing in the name of god..
shrxhky420
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There are extremist on all sides... does anyone remember this crazy fuck??? 
this fucker killed 77 ppl last year. http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/21/12338775-norway-prosecutors-ask-court-to-declare-mass-murderer-breivik-insane?lite&ocid=ansmsnbc11
He had his own manifesto... Now he did this because of the Mulims not because he is one... he's of christian faith if i'm not mistaken
With that being said there are more Muslim extrimist than there are christian extrimist hence giving the Muslim religion a bad name.
Devils advocate??? Maybe... stay high
this fucker killed 77 ppl last year. http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/21/12338775-norway-prosecutors-ask-court-to-declare-mass-murderer-breivik-insane?lite&ocid=ansmsnbc11
He had his own manifesto... Now he did this because of the Mulims not because he is one... he's of christian faith if i'm not mistaken
With that being said there are more Muslim extrimist than there are christian extrimist hence giving the Muslim religion a bad name.
Devils advocate??? Maybe... stay high
BlazedMonkey
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^^ yup crazies on both sides. makes me think of the moving "the killing room" or The Crusades lol.
my bad for assuming you were Muslim.
however, most (and i can't think of any who aren't) Christian and Jewish terrorists are not classified as religious terrorists, they are political terrorists under the banner of a distinct religious culture. What i am trying to say is that they don't use their religion to justify terrorism; which Muslims terrorists do.
Winter Woman
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He didn't deny he was muslim either. All he said was you had a lot wrong in your post (whatever that was about). Then all I hear was yada, yada, yada, just more of the same.
He never denied he was muslim.
Winter Woman
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2012.06.22 (Baghdad, Iraq) - 'Insurgents' set off a nail bomb at a crowded market, killing at least a dozen innocents and leaving over a hundred more injured.
2012.06.21 (Quetta, Pakistan) - Religion of Peace rivals bomb a mosque, killing two woshippers.
2012.06.21 (Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan) - Two very young children are among the dead when Islamists bomb a Sufi shrine.
2012.06.21 (Qargha Lake, Afghanistan) - At least twenty people are massacred by fundamentalists at a hotel serving alcohol.
2012.06.20 (Karachi, Pakistan) - A Shiite prayer leader is shot to death by Sunni rivals.
2012.06.20 (Logar, Afghanistan) - Four children and two women are among eight innocents torn apart by a Religion of Peace bomb.
2012.06.21 (Quetta, Pakistan) - Religion of Peace rivals bomb a mosque, killing two woshippers.
2012.06.21 (Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan) - Two very young children are among the dead when Islamists bomb a Sufi shrine.
2012.06.21 (Qargha Lake, Afghanistan) - At least twenty people are massacred by fundamentalists at a hotel serving alcohol.
2012.06.20 (Karachi, Pakistan) - A Shiite prayer leader is shot to death by Sunni rivals.
2012.06.20 (Logar, Afghanistan) - Four children and two women are among eight innocents torn apart by a Religion of Peace bomb.
Winter Woman
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- EU wants perpetrators of violence in Nigeria punished
20 june 2012 11:25:10 Brussels, Belgium (PANA) - The European Union (EU) has said it is ''horrified" by the recent attacks against churches in Nigeria and called on the country's authorities to punish the perpetrators of the heinous acts. Full text...©-Panapress-20 june 2012 11:25:10-thread Politics (189words) - Terror attacks: Nigeria's umbrella Christian body alleges 'systematic religious cleansing'
20 june 2012 07:39:40 Lagos, Nigeria (PANA) - The umbrella Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) has alleged that the escalating attacks on churches in the predominantly-Muslim northern Nigeria suggests a ''systematic religious cleansing which reminds Christians of the genesis of a Jihad''. Full text...©-Panapress-20 june 2012 07:39:40-thread Society (210words) - '40 killed in Nigeria violence'
20 june 2012 07:11:36 Lagos, Nigeria (PANA) - At least 40 people, including soldiers and policemen, died in Monday's gun and bomb attack perpetrated by suspected members of the Islamic sect Boko Haram in Damaturu, capital of northern Yobe state, the local media reported Wednesday, quoting hospital sources. Full text...©-Panapress-20 june 2012 07:11:36-thread Society (337words) - Another Nigerian state imposes 24-hour curfew after violence
19 june 2012 13:41:47 Lagos, Nigeria (PANA) - The Government of Yobe State in Nigeria's north-east Tuesday imposed a 24-hour curfew on the state capital, Damaturu, following an extended gun and bomb attacks on the city starting from 5pm Monday. Full text...©-Panapress-19 june 2012 13:41:47-thread Society (381words) - Boko Haram claims responsibility for Sunday's church attacks in Nigeria
18 june 2012 10:18:46 Lagos, Nigeria (PANA) - The Islamic sect Boko Haram has claimed responsibility for Sunday's coordinated suicide bomb attacks on three churches in two cities in Nigeria's northern Kaduna state that the police said left 16 dead, the local Peoples Daily newspaper reported Monday. Full text...©-Panapress-18 june 2012 10:18:46-thread Society (287words) - 34 killed, 156 wounded in Nigeria church attacks - newspaper (2nd Update)
17 june 2012 15:21:02 Lagos, Nigeria (PANA) - Some 34 people were killed and 156 injured in three separate church attacks in Nigeria's northern city of Kaduna on Sunday, as well as the reprisal attacks that followed, according to the Sunday Trust newspaper. Full text...©-Panapress-17 june 2012 15:21:02-thread Society (304words)
Winter Woman
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Timbuktu shrines damaged by Mali Ansar Dine Islamists
Timbuktu, sometimes called the city of 333 saints, is famous for its distinctive architecture
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Islamist fighters in Mali have damaged at least one Muslim saint's shrine in the city of Timbuktu, witnesses say.
The fighters, from the Ansar Dine group, which controls much of northern Mali, attacked the mausoleum of Sidi Mahmoud, one of 16 shrines in the city.
Last week, the UN cultural organisation Unesco put Timbuktu on its list of endangered world heritage sites, fearing damage following the coup which toppled the Malian government in March.
Islamists regard shrines as idolatrous.
However, some Muslims, especially Sufis, regard them as an accepted part of Muslim worship.
'Architectural wonders' Witnesses said Islamist fighters began attacking the shrines on Saturday morning, using shovels and pickaxes.
"This is tragic news for us all," Unesco chairperson Alissandra Cummins said in a statement to the AFP news agency. "I appeal to all those engaged in the conflict in Timbuktu to exercise their responsibility."
Continue reading the main story Treasures of Timbuktu
Ansar Dine spokesman Sanda Ould Boumama told the AFP news agency the shrines would be destroyed, "all of them, without exception".
He went on: "God is unique. All of this is haram (forbidden in Islam). We are all Muslims. Unesco is what?"
"They have already completely destroyed the mausoleum of Sidi Mahmoud (Ben Amar) and two others," Malian journalist Yeya Tandina told the Reuters news agency.
In addition to the shrines, Timbuktu is home to some 700,000 ancient manuscripts held in about 60 private libraries.
On Thursday, Unesco said the city's capture by armed Islamists could endanger its "outstanding architectural wonders".
"It looks as if it is a direct reaction to the Unesco decision," Timbuktu official Sandy Haidara told Reuters.
Timbuktu, an ancient trading city on the edge of the Sahara Desert, is known for its distinctive architectural structures, constructed mainly from mud and wood.
The shrine of Sidi Mahmoud was also attacked in April and set on fire by armed men from Ansar Dine.
Ansar Dine, which has ties to al-Qaeda, seized northern Mali in March, in tandem with ethnic Tuareg rebels.
However, the alliance between the two groups has frayed and the Islamists now say they control the territory after driving out their former allies.
Islamist forces recently seized the town of Gao from the Tuaregs. The 17th Century tomb of Emperor Mohammed Askia, which is in Gao, has also been placed on the Unesco danger list.
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Islamist fighters in Mali have damaged at least one Muslim saint's shrine in the city of Timbuktu, witnesses say.
The fighters, from the Ansar Dine group, which controls much of northern Mali, attacked the mausoleum of Sidi Mahmoud, one of 16 shrines in the city.
Last week, the UN cultural organisation Unesco put Timbuktu on its list of endangered world heritage sites, fearing damage following the coup which toppled the Malian government in March.
Islamists regard shrines as idolatrous.
However, some Muslims, especially Sufis, regard them as an accepted part of Muslim worship.
'Architectural wonders' Witnesses said Islamist fighters began attacking the shrines on Saturday morning, using shovels and pickaxes.
"This is tragic news for us all," Unesco chairperson Alissandra Cummins said in a statement to the AFP news agency. "I appeal to all those engaged in the conflict in Timbuktu to exercise their responsibility."
Continue reading the main story Treasures of Timbuktu
- Timbuktu was a centre of Islamic learning from the 13th to the 17th Centuries
- 700,000 manuscripts survive in public libraries and private collections
- Books on religion, law, literature and science
- Letters between rulers, advisers and merchants on subjects as varied as taxation, commerce, marriage, divorce, adoption, and prostitution
Ansar Dine spokesman Sanda Ould Boumama told the AFP news agency the shrines would be destroyed, "all of them, without exception".
He went on: "God is unique. All of this is haram (forbidden in Islam). We are all Muslims. Unesco is what?"
"They have already completely destroyed the mausoleum of Sidi Mahmoud (Ben Amar) and two others," Malian journalist Yeya Tandina told the Reuters news agency.
In addition to the shrines, Timbuktu is home to some 700,000 ancient manuscripts held in about 60 private libraries.
On Thursday, Unesco said the city's capture by armed Islamists could endanger its "outstanding architectural wonders".
"It looks as if it is a direct reaction to the Unesco decision," Timbuktu official Sandy Haidara told Reuters.
Timbuktu, an ancient trading city on the edge of the Sahara Desert, is known for its distinctive architectural structures, constructed mainly from mud and wood.
The shrine of Sidi Mahmoud was also attacked in April and set on fire by armed men from Ansar Dine.
Ansar Dine, which has ties to al-Qaeda, seized northern Mali in March, in tandem with ethnic Tuareg rebels.
However, the alliance between the two groups has frayed and the Islamists now say they control the territory after driving out their former allies.
Islamist forces recently seized the town of Gao from the Tuaregs. The 17th Century tomb of Emperor Mohammed Askia, which is in Gao, has also been placed on the Unesco danger list.
newatit2010
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Yea the good muslims don't say anything about the bad ones in fear of getting their ass blown up. So the muslims need to go back to muslimville.
Winter Woman
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Kenya church attacks 'kill 15' in Garissa
About 40 people were injured, some of them seriously
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Fifteen people have been killed in attacks on churches in the Kenyan town of Garissa near Somalia, say the Kenyan Red Cross and a medical official.
Regional deputy police chief Philip Ndolo said balaclava-clad "goons" attacked the town's Catholic church and the African Inland Church (AIC).
A combination of grenades and gunfire was used, police said.
Kenya's border region has been tense since it sent troops into Somalia to pursue al-Shabab Islamic militants.
Kenya said the operations, launched last October, were designed to bring an end to kidnappings on Kenyan soil and other violence which it blamed on al-Shabab.
But since then, al-Shabab has been blamed for a further string of grenade and bomb blasts across Kenya - though it has never admitted to carrying out any such attack on Kenyan territory.
No group has yet said it carried out these latest attacks, but the finger of blame will once again undoubtedly be pointed at al-Shabab or sympathisers, says the BBC's Kevin Mwachiro in Nairobi.
"We condemn this act in the strongest terms possible," Mr Ndolo said.
The Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims also condemned Sunday's church attacks, saying that "all places of worship must be respected", reported the AFP news agency.
'Terrible scene' Sunday's attacks took place during morning sermons at the churches in the garrison town.
The Provincial Medical Officer for North Eastern Province in Kenya, Mahamad Abey Shekh, said 15 people had been killed.
About 40 were thought to be wounded, several in serious condition.
The first and most serious attack took place at the AIC, police told our correspondent.
Gunmen shot two policemen outside one of the churches, and grenades were then thrown inside. As the panicked congregation rushed to escape, gunmen fired on them, police said. At least 10 people died.
In the second - apparently co-ordinated - attack at a Catholic church, two grenades were thrown inside the church. One failed to go off, but police say three people were injured by the other one.
Police said up to seven gunmen were involved in the attacks, but none had been apprehended.
Witnesses told AFP that bodies lay scattered in the blood-spattered churches as scores of wounded were rushed to hospital.
"It is a terrible scene, you can see bodies lying in the churches," regional police chief Leo Nyongesa told the agency.
"You can imagine for such a small town how the police and medical services have been stretched trying to deal with this," Mr Ndolo told Reuters news agency.
Garissa is the capital of North Eastern province, about 140km (90 miles) from the Somali border.
It is close to the Dadaab refugee camp, where gunmen kidnapped four aid workers and killed a driver on Friday in an attack Mr Ndolo said he suspected al-Shabab sympathisers of carrying out.
These two incidents have not painted a good picture of the efficacy of Kenyan security forces, our correspondent says.
Troops are supposed to have secured the Kenya-Somali border and frontier towns, but this does not seem to be happening, he adds.
Continue reading the main story Related Stories
Fifteen people have been killed in attacks on churches in the Kenyan town of Garissa near Somalia, say the Kenyan Red Cross and a medical official.
Regional deputy police chief Philip Ndolo said balaclava-clad "goons" attacked the town's Catholic church and the African Inland Church (AIC).
A combination of grenades and gunfire was used, police said.
Kenya's border region has been tense since it sent troops into Somalia to pursue al-Shabab Islamic militants.
Kenya said the operations, launched last October, were designed to bring an end to kidnappings on Kenyan soil and other violence which it blamed on al-Shabab.
But since then, al-Shabab has been blamed for a further string of grenade and bomb blasts across Kenya - though it has never admitted to carrying out any such attack on Kenyan territory.
No group has yet said it carried out these latest attacks, but the finger of blame will once again undoubtedly be pointed at al-Shabab or sympathisers, says the BBC's Kevin Mwachiro in Nairobi.
"We condemn this act in the strongest terms possible," Mr Ndolo said.
The Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims also condemned Sunday's church attacks, saying that "all places of worship must be respected", reported the AFP news agency.
'Terrible scene' Sunday's attacks took place during morning sermons at the churches in the garrison town.
The Provincial Medical Officer for North Eastern Province in Kenya, Mahamad Abey Shekh, said 15 people had been killed.
About 40 were thought to be wounded, several in serious condition.
The first and most serious attack took place at the AIC, police told our correspondent.
Gunmen shot two policemen outside one of the churches, and grenades were then thrown inside. As the panicked congregation rushed to escape, gunmen fired on them, police said. At least 10 people died.
In the second - apparently co-ordinated - attack at a Catholic church, two grenades were thrown inside the church. One failed to go off, but police say three people were injured by the other one.
Police said up to seven gunmen were involved in the attacks, but none had been apprehended.
Witnesses told AFP that bodies lay scattered in the blood-spattered churches as scores of wounded were rushed to hospital.
"It is a terrible scene, you can see bodies lying in the churches," regional police chief Leo Nyongesa told the agency.
"You can imagine for such a small town how the police and medical services have been stretched trying to deal with this," Mr Ndolo told Reuters news agency.
Garissa is the capital of North Eastern province, about 140km (90 miles) from the Somali border.
It is close to the Dadaab refugee camp, where gunmen kidnapped four aid workers and killed a driver on Friday in an attack Mr Ndolo said he suspected al-Shabab sympathisers of carrying out.
These two incidents have not painted a good picture of the efficacy of Kenyan security forces, our correspondent says.
Troops are supposed to have secured the Kenya-Somali border and frontier towns, but this does not seem to be happening, he adds.
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Islamists vow to smash every mausoleum in Timbuktu
Timbuktu is listed hy the UN as a world heritage site
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Islamist rebels occupying the ancient city of Timbuktu in Mali have vowed to smash every mausoleum, in the face of international protests.
A spokesman for the Ansar Dine group, Sanda Ould Boumama, said it would "destroy every mausoleum in the city - all of them, without exception".
The centuries-old shrines to Islamic saints, revered by Sufi Muslims, are regarded as idolatrous by the group.
Three mausoleums were reportedly destroyed by the militants on Saturday.
Eyewitnesses say militants equipped with tools such as chisels and hoes gathered on Sunday at another site, shouting "Allahu Akbar" ("God is Great").
Mali's Culture and Tourism Minister, Diallo Fadima Toure, urged the UN to take action to stop "crimes" against her country's architectural treasures.
Ansar Dine, which has ties to al-Qaeda, seized northern Mali in March, in tandem with ethnic Tuareg rebels.
However, the alliance between the two groups has frayed and the Islamists now say they control the territory after driving out their former allies.
'Armed madmen' Another spokesman for Ansar Dine, Oumar Ould Hamaha, told Reuters news agency by phone: "We are subject to religion and not to international opinion
"Building on graves is contrary to Islam. We are destroying the mausoleums because it is ordained by our religion."
Continue reading the main story Treasures of Timbuktu
A local journalist told AFP news agency on Sunday that the Islamists were planning to smash four mausoleums in the cemetery at the 14th-Century Djingareyber mosque.
"There are many of us watching them destroy the mausoleum," the journalist said on condition of anonymity.
"It hurts but we can't do anything. These madmen are armed, we can't do anything but they will be cursed that is for sure."
Reuters quoted a journalist as saying three mausoleums had been destroyed on Sunday but it was unclear if they were those at Djingareyber.
In another development, a Timbuktu resident told AFP on Sunday the Islamists had also threatened to destroy mosques.
"This morning the Islamists told us that if there are saints inside the mosques, they will also destroy these mosques," the unnamed resident said.
'War crimes' Mali's government condemned the "destructive fury, comparable to war crimes" and a meeting of the UN's cultural body, Unesco, heard a call to respect Mali's heritage sites.
"I appeal to all those engaged in the conflict in Timbuktu to exercise their responsibility," Unesco session chairwoman Yeleonor Mitrofanova said at the conference in the Russian city of St Petersburg.
"For the sake of future generations, spare the legacy of their past."
Ansar Dine is reportedly made up of Islamist fighters from Mali and other African states including Algeria and Nigeria.
"What shocks me the most is the presence of foreigners among them who do it with mockery while shouting Allah Akbar," Timbuktu resident Hamed Mohamed told Reuters.
"For me it is a declaration of war and a crime against our cultural heritage. It is time that the international community helped us."
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Islamists vow to smash every mausoleum in Timbuktu
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Islamist rebels occupying the ancient city of Timbuktu in Mali have vowed to smash every mausoleum, in the face of international protests.
A spokesman for the Ansar Dine group, Sanda Ould Boumama, said it would "destroy every mausoleum in the city - all of them, without exception".
The centuries-old shrines to Islamic saints, revered by Sufi Muslims, are regarded as idolatrous by the group.
Three mausoleums were reportedly destroyed by the militants on Saturday.
Eyewitnesses say militants equipped with tools such as chisels and hoes gathered on Sunday at another site, shouting "Allahu Akbar" ("God is Great").
Mali's Culture and Tourism Minister, Diallo Fadima Toure, urged the UN to take action to stop "crimes" against her country's architectural treasures.
Ansar Dine, which has ties to al-Qaeda, seized northern Mali in March, in tandem with ethnic Tuareg rebels.
However, the alliance between the two groups has frayed and the Islamists now say they control the territory after driving out their former allies.
'Armed madmen' Another spokesman for Ansar Dine, Oumar Ould Hamaha, told Reuters news agency by phone: "We are subject to religion and not to international opinion
"Building on graves is contrary to Islam. We are destroying the mausoleums because it is ordained by our religion."
Continue reading the main story Treasures of Timbuktu
- Timbuktu was a centre of Islamic learning from the 13th to the 17th Centuries
- 700,000 manuscripts survive in public libraries and private collections
- Books on religion, law, literature and science
- Letters between rulers, advisers and merchants on subjects as varied as taxation, commerce, marriage and prostitution
- Added to Unesco world heritage list in 1988 for its three large mosques and 16 cemeteries and mausoleums
- Unesco says they played a major role in spreading Islam in West Africa; the oldest dates from 1329
A local journalist told AFP news agency on Sunday that the Islamists were planning to smash four mausoleums in the cemetery at the 14th-Century Djingareyber mosque.
"There are many of us watching them destroy the mausoleum," the journalist said on condition of anonymity.
"It hurts but we can't do anything. These madmen are armed, we can't do anything but they will be cursed that is for sure."
Reuters quoted a journalist as saying three mausoleums had been destroyed on Sunday but it was unclear if they were those at Djingareyber.
In another development, a Timbuktu resident told AFP on Sunday the Islamists had also threatened to destroy mosques.
"This morning the Islamists told us that if there are saints inside the mosques, they will also destroy these mosques," the unnamed resident said.
'War crimes' Mali's government condemned the "destructive fury, comparable to war crimes" and a meeting of the UN's cultural body, Unesco, heard a call to respect Mali's heritage sites.
"I appeal to all those engaged in the conflict in Timbuktu to exercise their responsibility," Unesco session chairwoman Yeleonor Mitrofanova said at the conference in the Russian city of St Petersburg.
"For the sake of future generations, spare the legacy of their past."
Ansar Dine is reportedly made up of Islamist fighters from Mali and other African states including Algeria and Nigeria.
"What shocks me the most is the presence of foreigners among them who do it with mockery while shouting Allah Akbar," Timbuktu resident Hamed Mohamed told Reuters.
"For me it is a declaration of war and a crime against our cultural heritage. It is time that the international community helped us."