Why cannabis vape pens and concentrates are illegal

Moldy

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Concentrated are the end of legal cannabis, once people’s health starts failing tremendously they are going to pull the plug here in the USA.
Too many pesticides organic or not “especially neem and azamax” that is going to fry the consumers circulatory system.
Neem was not intended to be vaporized.
I don't think they'll stop with the vape cartridges here in the states. Too much revenue being generated at the retail level... at least here in NV they are very popular and easy to transport/ship.
 

GanjaFarmerCoop

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These guys don't know their vape pens from their crack pipes. There is far too many different ways to make these and they're treating them as one major problem. Many of the cannabis pens we see now are shatter pens - its effectively a hot coil, disposable battery and a piece of shatter that melts on the coil. There are still VG/PG options of course, but we can't lump everything into "vape pens" when it comes to legislation.
 

Moldy

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competition with chem's
Yeah, I did a little reading and most of the neem sites say it's safe for humans but fall short with any definitive studies or scientific reviews.

I heard of people using it for skin care but don't know how they stand the smell. Maybe it's processed differently than cold pressed neem. I use neem seed (cake) for N in my veg cycle. Plants like it.
 

Popeye_

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Before it was legal, we were ingesting much worse pesticides than neem or azamax...:wall:
Have you ever dabbed concentrates from plants that have been sprayed with neem?
In the past we all just smoked weed so the pesticides were at a minimum. Even the harsh ones.
Concentrates of all pesticides is horrible and we will pay for it soon mark my words!
I suggest only smoking concentrates from product you grew so you know it’s clean.
These massive warehouse dispensary’s have to spray crap all the time or risk profit. And we know they are not going to risk profit so it’s spray spray spray
 

Popeye_

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Yeah, I did a little reading and most of the neem sites say it's safe for humans but fall short with any definitive studies or scientific reviews.

I heard of people using it for skin care but don't know how they stand the smell. Maybe it's processed differently than cold pressed neem. I use neem seed (cake) for N in my veg cycle. Plants like it.
They bet they don’t expect people to be vaporizing the neem either though..
 

Moldy

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They bet they don’t expect people to be vaporizing the neem either though..
Have you ever dabbed concentrates from plants that have been sprayed with neem?
In the past we all just smoked weed so the pesticides were at a minimum. Even the harsh ones.
Concentrates of all pesticides is horrible and we will pay for it soon mark my words!
I suggest only smoking concentrates from product you grew so you know it’s clean.
These massive warehouse dispensary’s have to spray crap all the time or risk profit. And we know they are not going to risk profit so it’s spray spray spray
I've only been in one massive warehouse grow and they don't use any pesticides. Our state tests for pesticides so they'd be shooting themselves in the foot. Not sure about other legal states.
 

kindnug

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Have you ever dabbed concentrates from plants that have been sprayed with neem?
In the past we all just smoked weed so the pesticides were at a minimum. Even the harsh ones.
Concentrates of all pesticides is horrible and we will pay for it soon mark my words!
I suggest only smoking concentrates from product you grew so you know it’s clean.
These massive warehouse dispensary’s have to spray crap all the time or risk profit. And we know they are not going to risk profit so it’s spray spray spray
I'm sure plenty of hash was made with pesticide laced flower before BHO/Rosin was a thing...
We didn't all just smoke flower back then.

I only smoke my own, and I've only used neem in the soil(I'd never spray flowers with anything)
I wouldn't smoke any flower or concentrate that has been sprayed with any pesticide or nutrient.
 

kindnug

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I've only been in one massive warehouse grow and they don't use any pesticides. Our state tests for pesticides so they'd be shooting themselves in the foot. Not sure about other legal states.
Yeah they have lab grade precautions, pre-wash rooms + specific requirements before entering grow rooms.
Mostly hydro systems to avoid soil-borne pests.
A friend works as a caretaker(or grow tender) with a dispensary grow + he claims only 2 caretakers and owner are allowed in their grow rooms.
 

Popeye_

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I've only been in one massive warehouse grow and they don't use any pesticides. Our state tests for pesticides so they'd be shooting themselves in the foot. Not sure about other legal states.
Your full of shit! Or the warehouse was full of pm and god know what other pests.
 

Popeye_

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And you know he's full of shit how exactly? And based on what?
ALL DISPENSARIES USE FUNGICIDES/PESTICIDES THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO USE! THE SHOPS DONT LET ANYTHING GET IN THE WAY OF THERE PROFIT! I PROMISE YOU THAT!96F15492-4768-4D9F-B195-6DA427CE5A96.jpegthey put levels like this on the product so the people can’t sue them in ten years when the effects are really going to start showing.,
Grow your own is the safest way to ingest.
If your a once a month smoker then sure get the shops products. But if you ingest all day every day forwhat ever reason and you buy it all from a shop I would bet my bottom dollar your going to regret it.
And when the time comeS don’t feel sorry for yourself because you were warned.
 

doingdishes

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ALL DISPENSARIES USE FUNGICIDES/PESTICIDES THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO USE! THE SHOPS DONT LET ANYTHING GET IN THE WAY OF THERE PROFIT! I PROMISE YOU THAT!View attachment 4184522they put levels like this on the product so the people can’t sue them in ten years when the effects are really going to start showing.,
Grow your own is the safest way to ingest.
If your a once a month smoker then sure get the shops products. But if you ingest all day every day forwhat ever reason and you buy it all from a shop I would bet my bottom dollar your going to regret it.
And when the time comeS don’t feel sorry for yourself because you were warned.
please show proof of this claim! i know a few dispensaries and i know a few owners as well so i am very curious about your claim that the "ALL" do it
 

Moldy

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Your full of shit! Or the warehouse was full of pm and god know what other pests.
No, you're a fucking idiot. Apparently you have a comprehension issue? I was only stating fact what I have seen with my own eyes. How many "warehouse" grows have you inspected? I got to see the whole operation and didn't see mold or pesticide or bugs. I saw some really nice plants (3,000 with 6 differing strains in one clean room) in week 5 or 6 in flower. Very healthy plants. You need to go see someone with your anger issues sonny boy. God knows? lol
 

Popeye_

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No, you're a fucking idiot. Apparently you have a comprehension issue? I was only stating fact what I have seen with my own eyes. How many "warehouse" grows have you inspected? I got to see the whole operation and didn't see mold or pesticide or bugs. I saw some really nice plants (3,000 with 6 differing strains in one clean room) in week 5 or 6 in flower. Very healthy plants. You need to go see someone with your anger issues sonny boy. God knows? lol
Your dillusional. Your friend had all the pesticides put away before you got there. Every large scale grow in Colorado battles powdery mildew constantly.
Are you telling me that in your friends warehouse is fungicide/pesticide free and also free of pathogens and pests? What is he doing sprinkling fairy dust to keep the bad guys away?
 

Popeye_

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please show proof of this claim! i know a few dispensaries and i know a few owners as well so i am very curious about your claim that the "ALL" do it
Ask them. They all have a IPM that they follow in order to keep pest at bay. I garrentee it.
If they say they never have and never will use them then they are lieing to you.
 

CalyxCrusher

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ALL DISPENSARIES USE FUNGICIDES/PESTICIDES THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO USE! THE SHOPS DONT LET ANYTHING GET IN THE WAY OF THERE PROFIT! I PROMISE YOU THAT!View attachment 4184522they put levels like this on the product so the people can’t sue them in ten years when the effects are really going to start showing.,
Grow your own is the safest way to ingest.
If your a once a month smoker then sure get the shops products. But if you ingest all day every day forwhat ever reason and you buy it all from a shop I would bet my bottom dollar your going to regret it.
And when the time comeS don’t feel sorry for yourself because you were warned.
Hearsay don't mean shit. Show the proof.....ALL dispensaries? Every single last one in every single country on the ENTIRE planet? Pffft. Also, this is a Canadian forum so I'm sure there are differences in regulation and which pesticides are used. Now that's not to say that it occasionally doesn't happen. But to claim without a shred of evidence that ALL dispensaries(who dont grow their own since this is Canada and the system is different here) spray is ridiculous.
 
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