Why did the marijuana bill NOT make it on the 2012 ballot in California?

ford442

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he is talking about how in olden times you had no rights unless you owned property - you were more like a slave otherwise and not a lord.. you could not vote for example..

in my county we have insane arbitrary limits.. as if we are talking about how much poison oak one property is allowed.. if i owned more than 40 acres - i could grow a farm of weed, but here i am with a normal 1 acre parcel and so tough shit...
 

dirtsurfr

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I've always thought we need to pay for the right, we will when it's legal so called sin tax.
So why not get them started with buying permits to grow proceeds go to the government to help fund
say mental health and other programs say schools???
If the Government profits from doing nothing they like it.
 

ford442

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence

that still pisses me off because we are not contributing to any damage to the economy - not like alcohol or tobacco that is for damn sure. if anything, we prevent disease by ingesting pot instead of those things.
i agree with a reasonable fee to license for commercial growing/selling, but fuck the government on this - they started the war, they do not need reparations for lying and ruining lives needlessly. they will get money - we have seen the paradigm - think of merely the cost of housing pot prisoners and processing them - it will save them BILLION$ virtually overnight!
 

dirtsurfr

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Sin Tax for the industrial grower and permit fees for the home grower.
Most everyone I talk too agrees that paying for a permit or what ever isn't a big thing so why not.
How come some thing can't be drafted here by some of the members?
 

ford442

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where we have to pay extra to express our god given right to grow plants out of the ground? commercial fee yes, but we can brew hundreds of gallons of beers and grow many ounces of tobacco without any special permit..
 

Edwardo Ruffian

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There aren't enough cannabis sympathizers to get "like tomatoes" legalization passed in any state. The idea that you won't have to make compromises is just silly. The 75 years since Reefer Madness have instilled in the public a certain negative association with cannabis, which at it's best compares it to the social impact of alcohol. You scream treat it like medicine, and that’s exactly what they are doing pushing cannabis derivatives through the FDA that they will point to when you ask for your medicine. You scream treat it like alcohol and that's exactly what you get initiatives that place restrictions on cannabis similar to alcohol. At some point the cannabis community needs to wake up to reality and support ANY political decision that moves the ball towards the cannabis legalization we all desire.
 
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