Why do people buy seeds?

babygro

babygro

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Al Capone said:
an 80$ HPS light would grow a lot better weed then 80$ seeds

the name of the seed has little or no effect on the THC% it's just a name for companies to stamp on seeds so you buy it from them. but that's my opinion we can debate forever.
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Amazing how someone so inexperienced at growing Cannabis plants and generally so ignorant about Cannabis plants as a whole can hold such strong and wrong views.

Everyone of course is entitled to an opinion, this is just another example of how some opinions are clearly worth a lot less than others.

I strongly suggest you go away and obtain at least a little knowledge of what you're talking about because you're quite clearly clueless.
 
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Al Capone

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000420 said:
Dude I'm so sorry if I souded like a dick, I really am sorry...it was'nt targeted just to you and I really didn't meen for it to sound so harsh..:joint: ...I just feel offended when I think people are saying us growers that by good seeds are wasting our money and that the seeds are no better than bag seed.......we are all entiltled to our oppinions and I should not have been so snappy...sorry again bro.....I'm puffin one right now and I'll take a hit for you....:mrgreen:
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it's all chillz :)
 
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Al Capone

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babygro said:
Amazing how someone so inexperienced at growing Cannabis plants and generally so ignorant about Cannabis plants as a whole can hold such strong and wrong views.

Everyone of course is entitled to an opinion, this is just another example of how some opinions are clearly worth a lot less than others.

I strongly suggest you go away and obtain at least a little knowledge of what you're talking about because you're quite clearly clueless.
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You can probably tell the difference, but you have to realise, it's probably just a placebo effect, if you smoke the weed believing weed is weed and all stains kick ass, you will enjoy them all equally, people who believe the weed there smoking is the shit because of it's name are probably (just my opinion) just feeling a placebo effect. I am sure some weed has more or less THC% I know this, but it's the conditions it's grown under, not the seeds.
 
000420

000420

terpenophenolic
Al Capone said:
the name of the seed has little or no effect on the THC% it's just a name for companies to stamp on seeds so you buy it from them. but that's my opinion we can debate forever.
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If this is the case, you should be able to take hemp seeds(hemp is cannabis sativa also, but very low thc%)and throw them under and HPS and grow some killer weed....sounds sweet.....unfortunately this is not the case regardless of anyones opinions, there are still facts...........another exaple how about some pure ruderalis .......those seeds would grow some nice thc laiden buds.....NO......fat nugs, short plant, quick to flower......low thc% now matter how well you grow it ruderalis aint shit, unless it's hybridized by crossing it with some dank ass genetics, you see your right it isn't about the name that it has that determines the thc% but the genetics damn well does play a major role in it and if you want guaranteed good genetics, you are going to pay for it...:joint: ...peace
 
rob butts

rob butts

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who the fuck said seed are 80 bucks? where you lookin man haha, and the genetics do matter because it doesnt matter how good you grow certain plants, sometimes they just cant produce more THC. for example i have Belladonna, which is 18-20% THC and maybe you coudl get it higher and def. lower, but i also have New Purple Power which is only about 5-10% at the max, i just like the purple buds and the taste, and purple attracts customers haha :-P. also new purple power was only 20 bucks, and belladonna which is a VERY potent and very beautiful strain, was only 40 and thats not that bad. oh well people have there own opinions thats mine. good luck with the seeds man.
 
babygro

babygro

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Al Capone said:
I am sure some weed has more or less THC% I know this, but it's the conditions it's grown under, not the seeds.
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How can someone be so damned ignorant and yet continue to argue their opinion holds any validity at all?

You're wrong, simple as.

Go away and learn a bit more about what you're talking about and we can have a discussion on this subject, because at the moment to be brutally honest your opinion as it stands at the moment is about as useful as a turd in a swimming pool.

I don't mean to be rude either, I'm being brutally honest and that is - you simply do not know enough about this subject at the moment to put forward a valid or useful opinion on it.

Enjoy your studying.
 
videoman40

videoman40

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Relax dude, I wish everyone would stop telling this guy to go away. Ignorance comes in many flavors.

Hey Al, look at it this way, it is like race horses. People pay big bucks to buy the genetics of a famous race horse, in the hopes that they can duplicate the parent. This practice holds alot of merit, as you can't change the genes.

THC content can vary tremendously, from a low of 1-2% al the way up to 25% & even higher. Aside from THC content, you are buying the traits that you want to try to duplicate.

I do however agree that seeds are expensive, but you get what you pay for.
I would never buy feminized seeds, nor would I spend $80.00 unless you got me really drunk first!
Peace

Al Capone said:
Everyones entitled to there own opinion, when my friends smoke me out and tell me "oh this shit is 'blah blah blah' it's awsome" or i smoke my regular shit, it all feels the same to me, I'm sure some plant have more or less THC in them but whatever, I'm to high to notice the difference so I'll stick with my free seeds instead of paying 80 bucks, you guys are welcome to pay a much as you want, if i had 80 bucks to blow on growing, I would probably buy HPS light & ballast. anyways, just my 2 cents

we're all bros here, i think we agree on most of the important issues (like the legalization of marijuana ect.,) your entitled to your opinion and I am to mine. please don't start name calling
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hearmenow

hearmenow

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VM, good analogy but what AL is saying is that when he smokes great weed, he doesn't notice a difference from crappy weed. He believes when people are stoned for 3 hours and can't get up from their couch, it's because of a "placebo" effect. Next time I am buying some weed, I am asking for the cheapest, crappiest shit I can get. I'll convince myself it's high grade and enjoy the finiest smoke I ever have! Forget all this growing shit, I'll just buy crappy weed and convince myself it's some WW or Mazar or something. I'm a very persuasive person and I'm sure I can talk myself into believing anything.
 
videoman40

videoman40

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I know and was trying to avoid that issue, but maybe he has a different tolerance that most of us do, I don't know.
Maybe he is taking other drugs that interfere, there could be lots of reasons. I don't believe it is a placebo effect though.

I'm sure you are a good talker and can sell ice cream in Alaska, most pot smokers seem to be excellent salesmen. LoL
Peace

hearmenow said:
VM, good analogy but what AL is saying is that when he smokes great weed, he doesn't notice a difference from crappy weed. He believes when people are stoned for 3 hours and can't get up from their couch, it's because of a "placebo" effect. Next time I am buying some weed, I am asking for the cheapest, crappiest shit I can get. I'll convince myself it's high grade and enjoy the finiest smoke I ever have! Forget all this growing shit, I'll just buy crappy weed and convince myself it's some WW or Mazar or something. I'm a very persuasive person and I'm sure I can talk myself into believing anything.
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beenthere donethat

beenthere donethat

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My $.02...adjusted for current monetary considerations..is this:

You can negatively impact the potency of a well-bred/well-known strain through improper growing conditions and/or techniques...

but you cannot increase the potency of a substandard strain in any way, shape of form. If it starts out as crap, it will end up as crap.

yup vidman...the tolerance thing does come into play and is something to consider when taking comments to heart about a strain, cutting or seed offering. What gets one guy wasted doesn't always floor someone else the same way.

I like a variety...especially when it comes to taste. Should we taste the Blueberry, the Cherry slyder, the spicy EZ sativa, or the thai-like/sweet tasting Blowfish...etc...etc...etc???. We have 16 different flavors here right now...and I LAUGH at anyone who says they aren't different. (who's still buying schwag, obviously!)

pfffftttt!!!

good luck

bt dt
 
videoman40

videoman40

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Dude, I agree 99% with what you say....my only exception is that you can take seeds from "okay" weed, grow it, and care for it, more than the commercial grower did, and end up with much better weed.

Because we all know how we all want to love our babies! LoL
Peace


beenthere donethat said:
My $.02...adjusted for current monetary considerations..is this:

You can negatively impact the potency of a well-bred/well-known strain through improper growing conditions and/or techniques...

but you cannot increase the potency of a substandard strain in any way, shape of form. If it starts out as crap, it will end up as crap.

yup vidman...the tolerance thing does come into play and is something to consider when taking comments to heart about a strain, cutting or seed offering. What gets one guy wasted doesn't always floor someone else the same way.

I like a variety...especially when it comes to taste. Should we taste the Blueberry, the Cherry slyder, the spicy EZ sativa, or the thai-like/sweet tasting Blowfish...etc...etc...etc???. We have 16 different flavors here right now...and I LAUGH at anyone who says they aren't different. (who's still buying schwag, obviously!)

pfffftttt!!!

good luck

bt dt
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beenthere donethat

beenthere donethat

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I'll agree with that, vidman. IMO, it'll be "better" because it will be fresh and unbricked/handled...etc. (If there's any increase in potency this would be why)

To each their own, but you/I see the differences in the plants first hand..in growth patterns and characteristics..as well as highs and tastes. If someone else doesn't..that's just a damn shame for them!

As far as an $80 pack of seeds. If a guy can't take that pack..even if they ONLY GET ONE FEMALE FROM TEN SEEDS and they cannot get their $80 back on their first grow...(or can't set up for a multi-year run of continuous flow)

they should just fuckin give up on growing altogether! Sheesh.

good luck

bt dt
 
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Vote 2 Legalize Marijuana

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I haven't bought bag weed since the mid 80's. here is why I buy seeds.

I am a breeder and a grower, so it gives me the option to create my own new strains. Most growers buy the best seeds they can afford, then they grow'em and clone'em.


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Vote 2 Legalize Marijuana

Vote 2 Legalize Marijuana

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hearmenow said:
VM, good analogy but what AL is saying is that when he smokes great weed, he doesn't notice a difference from crappy weed. He believes when people are stoned for 3 hours and can't get up from their couch, it's because of a "placebo" effect. Next time I am buying some weed, I am asking for the cheapest, crappiest shit I can get. I'll convince myself it's high grade and enjoy the finiest smoke I ever have! Forget all this growing shit, I'll just buy crappy weed and convince myself it's some WW or Mazar or something. I'm a very persuasive person and I'm sure I can talk myself into believing anything.
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How funny! Back in the mid 80's a lot of mexican dirt weed was floating around and so I bought some. Turned out to be very crappy weed. I tried to convence myself otherwise but never did get high, just a headache from the stuff.

I kept the seeds and later crossed them with Purple Indica. The weed was great shit to smoke, but gave one the feeling of being on speed. Lol


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