Why do so many ppl dog Arjan?

Nine Coats

Active Member
Arjan is an amazing business man and understands marketing better than almost anyone I have ever seen.
Arjan has the capitol and the clout to out spend the other competitors with the exception of Derri and Luke.
When you give a gram of hash, weed and a bobble head doll to pot heads that are used to smoking swag its very easy to win the vote of those people.
The Cannabis cup is not about the best weed is about the best marketing and promotion
If youd like an inside look into the Cannabis cup you can read in detail about my report on the CC.
https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/48214-good-bad-ugly-2006-scamabus.html

Just look at the dog shit he entered that won that year.
No serious grower runs Greenhouse genetics just newbies and kids that are reading HT for the first time :)

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High Times, CC, Weed World are nothing but trade mags for the bih seeds boys, and have nothing to do with truth or reality. Read a mag called, Treating Yourself, issue 17, article called," Dr. Frankenbean"
 

Big P

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i dont know, no reason to hate on these guys so much fellas. if they were not good they wouldnt be in business. greenhouse i mean

its all selling for $400 or more an oz, out here where we are getting cuffed and stuffed

cant hate on $400 an oz most specially if you factor in the yield component!!

everyone knows u compromise potency for yield none of these plants are a jack of all trades

so the huge unwarrented hating going on in this thread to me seems mostly due to comercial competition / frustration of compeating seed breeders, jealousy, and outright obnoxiousness on the part of many:bigjoint:
 

trapper

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everyone has good weed,every one.every one has access to every one else s.nothing is new under the sun.weather its the brits the dutch,the americans the canadians,they all do the same thing,they all cross a skunk#1 or a northern lights or a whie widow or a g13 or original haze or romulan or cheese or pre bubba or new bubba or old hash plant new hash plant,new aphgan old.Now it comes down to who can advertise through grow threads on various sites like this and others,who can get a story into high times,who can market and take great pics.Well arjan does what every one is doing,but hes got the loot to market it better.i like his old white rhino anh nl#5/haze but he ripped off others he has lied and cheated.he is is no DJ short or sam the skunk man or any of the real breeders.He has become what every one else is a seed salesmen.every one is still mixing the same old genetics,everyone.and more then half the pics are photo shopped.the seed selling business is a very dog eat dog if you look close enough.i got interested in breeding,and you read every thing about lineage and stuff,then you read all the lying cheating and stealing,but i sure respect those old timers who grew out the 1000 plus males,i tip my hat to you.
 

trapper

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One last thing,i have it on good information that a new super breed of pot is being worked on in some abandoned trapper shack.the place is well protected with leg hold traps made for catching wolves.word has it that one of arjans cronies has been caught twice in the same trap,because of ethics and laws they were forced to release him,their is a sign on the shack door that states it is a catch and release.they have already caught at least one crony from every seed company you can name.that's how potent this plant is.Im not sure if or when it will be released,the reason is, it is that potent.It was tested on a 1 ton polar bear which was given one bong hit,the polar bear stayed the rest of the week in one spot only moving to eat the nachos that were provided for him.im amped to know when this strain will come out,can we all say Canada rocks.let the bidding begin.
 
I find that most people who talk shit about Green House Seeds blame anything and everything except themselves.

Some of these kids on here obviously have no clue how to grow and will blame the easiest thing they can: The Breeder. I have nothing but good things to say about GHS, they have quality strains and don't dick you on the prices.

And they don't ship directly but you can buy them at Attitude.

Green House Seeds have won tons of cups and their strains are featured in almost EVERY coffee shop in Holland, you can't argue with that. I don't really buy into the cannabis cup all that much because I think it is hard for some smaller seed companies to win it, it's more about money nowadays.

But, I did smoke GHS strains all over Holland and they were fantastic!
i've never subscribed to pot literature but i've been wanting to for some time. if high times isn't good what is? i think a forum on pot literature could be helpful; i really like books about pot and some are definitely better than others. i'm still a stranger so i don't mind asking, "where's the best place to start a thread on pot publications?"

btw, i had decided on Super Lemon Haze before i read this thread.
 

w1ckedchowda

Well-Known Member
i've never subscribed to pot literature but i've been wanting to for some time. if high times isn't good what is? i think a forum on pot literature could be helpful; i really like books about pot and some are definitely better than others. i'm still a stranger so i don't mind asking, "where's the best place to start a thread on pot publications?"

btw, i had decided on Super Lemon Haze before i read this thread.
I hear cannabis culture is pretty good.
 

Raef

Active Member
I hear cannabis culture is pretty good.
quick ? What kind of visa card would i purchase if i wanted to buy seeds internationally and where might i find such a card. i am smack dab in da middle of the usa.........thanks. sorry bout the change of direction to this thread but have been following it for quite some time and i'm gettin' itchy for beans
 

Luap

Member
To most smokers, Arjan is seen as the most prominent figure in cannabis cultivation and a key player in the culture. Arjan has branded Green House Seeds like Starbucks and McDonalds. The cannabis movement is counterculture, it has been since the 70s. It rubs many the wrong way when they see Arjan make a corperation and killing off the plant they love and revere.

Now as far as the breeder beef. Before Franco, (GHS's current breeder) Arjan had the two best breeders off all time working in GHS, Neville and Shantibaba. This is what happened. Neville back in the early 80s was the first king of cannabis. He owned the Cannabis Castle and was distributing seeds all over the world including the US. The DEA had some sort of operation going on and was busting all the head shops at the time. Neville had to go into retirement. But his genetics were sold and kept alive.

Arjan opened GHS in the early 90s with Shantibaba. Arjan was the businessman while Shantibaba was the breeder, that was the arrangement. Shantibaba took home multiple cups with WW, WR and others. He than began using Neville's genetics, mostly his Haze. They were able to coax Neville back out of retirement and into breeding once again. The two of them released SSH and MH, the rest is history. Sometime in the late 90s there was some beef and Shantibaba and Neville left GHS and Arjan. But they also took with them their original breeding stock leaving Arjan with only F1s and F2s.

This is where the animosity begins. When Shantibaba and Neville took their stock with them, Arjan was only able to backcross with the F1s and F2s. There were rumors of him losing a great deal of plants and not being able to replace them. He allegedly used other seedbank's genetics and crossed them with his own(AH 1,2,3). The problem is he didn't give credit to any of the other banks, this is taboo in breeding. Breeders like Rez and Steve don't have much respect for Arjan and his practices.

Thats the GHS story in a nuttshell.
 

pinkus

New Member
quick ? What kind of visa card would i purchase if i wanted to buy seeds internationally and where might i find such a card. i am smack dab in da middle of the usa.........thanks. sorry bout the change of direction to this thread but have been following it for quite some time and i'm gettin' itchy for beans
any card will word that says it will work internationally. i used a debit from my bank with attitude.
 

nuera59

Well-Known Member
I like Arjan, he's a business man and fuck he's doing well.
business is a dog eat dog world.
when I first got interested in cultivating he was the first person along with jorge cervantes that I found on the net.
 

i grow everglades bud

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if you like GHS i would recomend that you check out Mr. Nice seed co. this is the original breeder's site who bread white widow and a few of the strains that many of the favorite strains are bread from... check um out , TRY THEIR SHIT!!!NO joke there mr. nice - shit . good shit lol literaly lol
 
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