Why do so many ppl dog Arjan?

raiderman

raiderman

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to serve man said:
Couldn't agree more! I saw those same pics and thought the same thing bro!
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id thier white rhino 2 yrs ago femenized,, worse case of bananas i ever seen,lol.weed was so non resined, i thought it was me but since Elite mentioned dry ass buds,,it was them.Lameass shit.novice growers are the only ones fooled though. once they grow any strain outside thier shit ,they'll never return..yea all the canabas mags parade his crap and kiss his ass.kiss-ass
 
ZEN MASTER

ZEN MASTER

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Ok, ok, ok, now i'm hearing more bad crap about this guy than praising. So here's my query, alright. I am sure that things travel pretty fast in the cannabis world. Now, not taking any sides, i was wondering if this guy is the biggest lying, theiving, coniving, arrogant, duche bag in the world, then why is he so accepted. I mean you say he buys cannabis cups. Well shit man, honestly if it was only one motherfucker at the entire venue to give me some free dank, and it was good, hell yea he'd get my vote, with a thank you written on the ballot. But anyway i got off subject. Like i was saying if he's this big piece of crap, or all of his gear is crap. Then why does he have a booth at the cannabis cup every year? Why is he still in business? Why has the industry labeled him "one of" the best. Obviuosly he must be doing something right, right? Me personally i don't know, i just got my first ever order of seeds in, so i'm not in a position to judge people, let alone an established breeder, beacuse like it or not he is established. But could someone please explain that to me,why he is still in so many ways held on a pedestal, i really would like to get a little clarity on this situation. Thanks.


Peace!!!!!
-zen-
 
trapper

trapper

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raiderman said:
id thier white rhino 2 yrs ago femenized,, worse case of bananas i ever seen,lol.weed was so non resined, i thought it was me but since Elite mentioned dry ass buds,,it was them.Lameass shit.novice growers are the only ones fooled though. once they grow any strain outside thier shit ,they'll never return..yea all the canabas mags parade his crap and kiss his ass.kiss-ass
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greenhouse rhino is not complete shit,maybe elite had some rino shit from him but i would put my 96 white rhino against any thing elite has.every one has keepers and everyone has shit.but i can tell you that the rhino i have has it all.and it has people asking everytime for more.do i like greenhouse tactics,no.do i buy from greenhouse,no.do i like his 96 rino you bet.He has done some breeding back in the day or else hired guys to do it for him.And remember just because elite says their dry ass buds means shit to me because im growing it and it is great,now if elite wants to say that is because i never smoked good weed before,thats his progative,hes a seed salesmen his job is to make his stuff better then any one elses.but i dont listen to people who sell seeds give me a discription of some one elses,ive been to many places to be that stupid.
 
CaGeD

CaGeD

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ILLEGAL NATURE 420 said:
I mean the Greenhouse Company has won 31 cups and offer some of the best prices on the net. They even have grow videos of a alot of their strains on Youtube. Yet you still see alot of ppl talking down on em. And whats up with rollitup's obsession with Nirvana? They are an inferior quality company but they get promoted like gods on this site!
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Nirvana is A-OK with me.
 
Relaxed

Relaxed

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Pulling up a chair....This is just starting to get good. Honey bring me another beer please this ride may take a while....
 
Relaxed

Relaxed

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name that song - YOu can't touch this....nr nr nr rn...m..m...m...m.

You give away a free t shirt I am on your side but free pot...sign me up...Can't touch this..../..../ ..../.../
 
steve1978

steve1978

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o.k then. i've never grown greenhouse seeds so i don't nkow how good/bad their strains are. (i go dutch passion) but can i say i know arjan seems a bit of a cock but am i the only one who thinks their website is the future? it's great you can click on a strain and you get to see how it grows! now i know the marketing thing seems a bit o.t.t but has anyone also seen strain hunters on you tube? fair play to anyone who goes to malawi to find a strain that gets kudos from me! how many of you "haters" have done that? what someone should do is grow a white widow seed from all these companys at the same time, in the same conditions and show us the results. then we can talk with knowledge about how good/bad these breeders are.
 
Relaxed

Relaxed

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I watched the strain hunters video. All of it. Buddy, that was marketing set up if I ever saw it. Please, watch it again and tell me all of it was set up. They aren't going to go in hostile country and waste time to chase a plant. All they have to do is have reps. send them seeds from the plants maybe with some pictures and/or smoke/clones. Like a set up vacation trip with a few setbacks. It's been a couple months since watching it but If I remember they spent a freakin segment on a rental car mix up? Poor thing.... The kind of money they have now I wouldn't be surprised if something like that with those high rollers renting a heli to make it happen in less then an hour. It's also a write-off exps.
 
SpruceZeus

SpruceZeus

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I'm quite sure all the greenhouse haters here have either
a)never grown greenhouse genetics
b)have had a single poor experience that was most likely their own fault and in no way the fault of the greenhouse seed co.

I've gotta say, its really disappointing to see so much blind hate.

I've grown several gh strains and like any breeder (that means you too elite, subcool) there are some winners and some losers.

Their hazes are known for having alot of wacky growth, and i'd say thats a fair assessment. My Arjan's Ultra Haze #1 is a loooong flowerer (16+ weeks) and sure isn't pretty. However it is the best high this toker has ever experienced.

Wonderful things come in funny looking packages.

The Church is a fantastic plant with a strong unique flavour and an uplifting hybrid high.


I've also grown their Cheese, and though i have never smoked the original and can't compare its characteristics, it is a wonderful strain regardless.


My point is, the greenhouse has ALOT of great plants, and whether or not Arjan is a douche (i'd think he probably is) they sell great plants at a reasonable price.

Who cares if their genetics are stolen??? I feel for the original breeders, but alas that is the way she fuckin goes.

You people can belive whatever the fuck you want to, but I speak from experience when I say that the only problem with the greenhouse is their PR.


Having said all that, I'm thinking my next seed order is gonna be from TGA or possibly serious, just out of protest of the fact that greenhouse is no longer selling regular seeds, opting to sell only the feminized versions. So that in mind, if you have any choice males from GH, hold on to them, they will soon go the way of the dinosaur.
 
trapper

trapper

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SpruceZeus
Stoner
Mr. Ganja
I'm quite sure all the greenhouse haters here have either
a)never grown greenhouse genetics
b)have had a single poor experience that was most likely their own fault and in no way the fault of the greenhouse seed co.

I've gotta say, its really disappointing to see so much blind hate.

I've grown several gh strains and like any breeder (that means you too elite, subcool) there are some winners .........like zues i find this very true all though i find the church much like some of his older strains with a differant name,i cant speak about elite genetics because i never grew them,mainly because i deal with 2 seed companes,also i trade clones with other people,after a while things just become sativa,hybrid or indica,after all the crossing.i have grown subcools jacks cleaner and messed it up the first time,second time i got it right and took it 75 days,im not sure what the right time is,not enough information on it,cant find 1 person who grew it outside,but it is a great plant 1 of 4 im keeping along with GH rino,that is if what i have is jacks cleaner,a guy showed me a pic from hightimes boston versus newyork or something and it had a pic of JC mine have a more pointed cone top then the round bud in that pic and darker green.but who knows.all i can say it is a real great high,no paranoia great lemon taste and is not draining.so every breeder has winners every one has losers.i even bred something i call muskeven,it is berry berry sweet,and great med weed.i would of liked to even try other tga genetics but i was tapped out from a poisonis grow tent,i had a friend give me some cuttings that i had before,i had seeds i made,and i bought 40 seeds for 120 from kindseeds.com.but i was lucky to get my rino cutting back and JC.i never heard of any one growing elite genetics amongst my fellow trappers,but maybe 1 day i will meet someone who has and then i can see what its like,but i have met a lot of happy GH and Sensi seed growers.im a VISC and Jordan of the island man(but a lot of their stuff is so much a like).and any good cutting someone wants to trade.if i had the money i would try them all(all the seed companies),believe me.because so many breeders have great stuff,as long as you understand every one has winners and everyone has losers.
 
J

jon2

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When shantibaba owned GHS he did a lot of breeding obv.. winning the cups for GHS. When he left to start Mr.Nice he left a lot of genetics behind. I'm guessing Arjan stressed them and just made fems (notice how all the strains are in fem form). The only reason Arjan won more cups is because he bought them. So basically Arjan is trying to make a living off of Shanitbaba's old work.

If you want the REAL GHS genetics, go to Mr.Nice.
 
Tagh

Tagh

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I can't say anything about any seed breeder as I have not grown yet.
Personally I believe, if this guys weed was shit...He would not be where he is.
He started somewhere, it's not like he's been buying the cup since 88.
My grow will be in a couple months, and I plan on going with Serious Seeds. Maybe it's just me but they seem to know what the fuck they are doing.
They have been around for a while. Only 5 strains available. All 1st place winners I believe. I actually plan on growing all their strains.

Even after reading everything I have, I wouldn't say GHS is no good. Maybe in a year or so I'll try out their seeds.
Unless you have grown/smoked all these different strain from all these different breeders, You don't know shit.
Somehow I highly doubt anyone has grown say 5 strains from 10 plus breeders, twice (bad seed batches)
 
Cyproz

Cyproz

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"Why do so many ppl dog Arjan"

why do people dog Walmart even though they give us great prices?

 
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