Why do so many ppl dog Arjan?

trapper said:
you dont sound like a guy on the fence.
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I purchased and I'm growing AUH#1 from Green House. I've heard great things about that strain, aside from the long flowering period. I'd very much like to experiment with different strains, especially great sativas.

I told ya, I'm neutral, I haven't fully grown or smoked either so I can't make a complete conclusion. I had just heard about Elite Genetics recently and upon some research, haven't found much negative feedback about them, aside from your occasional pricing issue. After reading everyone's great comments and reviews, wouldn't testing them out myself be the best decision?
 
alas, a man who talks sense! spot on about how some people who are supposedly in the "know" describe their cannabis. yeah man its hard core frosty white coated mother fucking weed man. i much prefer arjan's method of actually tryiung to find a scientific explanation as to why a certain strain tastes/smells a certain way. has anyone also thought that the reason the kush and heavy indicas are so widely availbale in cali is because the cash croppers dont want to spend 14 week's flowering a haze? i know what i would rather smoke.
 
dude we have hazes and everything in between the truth is its about supply and demand people prefer og's bubbas chems etc... all are hybrids or indicas and there what sell the most if you go into a good well stocked dispensary they will normally have 20 to 30 strains with pure sativas to pure indicas the indicas and hybrids are the big sellers there are always people who prefer pure hazes and there available for them. as far as the growers are concerned its no harder to yield a haze and make a profit than it is with an indica in my own experience you can do 2 indica grows while 1 haze grow finishes but the sativas yield so much it equals out in the end. so really the herb gets stocked that people buy plain and simple supply and demand people like what they like.
 
w1ckedchowda said:
I purchased and I'm growing AUH#1 from Green House. I've heard great things about that strain, aside from the long flowering period. I'd very much like to experiment with different strains, especially great sativas.

I told ya, I'm neutral, I haven't fully grown or smoked either so I can't make a complete conclusion. I had just heard about Elite Genetics recently and upon some research, haven't found much negative feedback about them, aside from your occasional pricing issue. After reading everyone's great comments and reviews, wouldn't testing them out myself be the best decision?
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yes it would be.
 
bicycle racer said:
dude we have hazes and everything in between the truth is its about supply and demand people prefer og's bubbas chems etc... all are hybrids or indicas and there what sell the most if you go into a good well stocked dispensary they will normally have 20 to 30 strains with pure sativas to pure indicas the indicas and hybrids are the big sellers there are always people who prefer pure hazes and there available for them. as far as the growers are concerned its no harder to yield a haze and make a profit than it is with an indica in my own experience you can do 2 indica grows while 1 haze grow finishes but the sativas yield so much it equals out in the end. so really the herb gets stocked that people buy plain and simple supply and demand people like what they like.
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Too true. You can find ANYTHING in cali. We just try not to have that amsterdam shit. haha. We actually LIKE the weed that we grow in cali. There are a lot of kush hybrids around because thats what people like! Put any of arjan's bunk weed up against any cali weed, and arjan would loose hands down! Subcool entered the cannabis cup a couple years ago and lost! Didn't even place. Now anyone that has smoked subcool knows his shit is dankness. I wouldn't say the same for arjan's gear. Even Franco of GHS stated on the ICMag Forum that he is on a "kush craze" right now, and stated OG Kush as one of his favorites.
 
This I will admit to. Cali is the easiest place in the world get excellent weed. It's got fucking Weed VENDING MACHINES for buda's sake! The rest is ridiculous...breeders on both sides have and exchange cuts and seeds all the time. It's not like if you move the seed to ADam it looses potency. You can grow the best weed in the world anywhere.

I can get mindblowing weed in Texas (ok, i have a connect that hasn't let me down in 4 years now) but for most here it's hit and miss (unless you grow yr own).

I've smoked incredible weed in the three states I've lived in. I've also smoked tons of schwag in my day.

It's kind of like the argument of "classics" vs. the new strains. In General weed is way better than the "old days". But the top strains haven't changed in potency much.
 
Raef said:
wow, would be cool to get a free seed or two to try something for myself
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You read the rules before you joined the site?

If you did, you'd know that is an inappropriate question that puts us all at risk.

Please cut the shit.
 
wasn't actually serious....but it's cool, you are indeed right. apologies heading your way.
 
bicycle racer said:
dude we have hazes and everything in between the truth is its about supply and demand people prefer og's bubbas chems etc... all are hybrids or indicas and there what sell the most if you go into a good well stocked dispensary they will normally have 20 to 30 strains with pure sativas to pure indicas the indicas and hybrids are the big sellers there are always people who prefer pure hazes and there available for them. as far as the growers are concerned its no harder to yield a haze and make a profit than it is with an indica in my own experience you can do 2 indica grows while 1 haze grow finishes but the sativas yield so much it equals out in the end. so really the herb gets stocked that people buy plain and simple supply and demand people like what they like.
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you sayin i can walk into a cali dispencery and pay the same price for a 7 to 8 week indica or hybrid as i would a 12 to 14 week sativa/haze.
 
the sativas sell cheaper normally yes. the hybrids like og kush and its various phenos fetch the most money. its not purely based on a strain being sativa or indica or in between just what people enjoy and purchase. me i like the whole spectrum of cannabis but if i had to choose i would go with og kush(hybrid) or a pure knock out indica. i grow all kinds of strains currently im growing jtr(sativa dom) deep chunk/strawberry cough(indica dom) and og kush(hybrid). but to answer your question yes 7 to 8 week indicas and 8 to 10 week hybrids are the best sellers based on what the consumer wants.
 
why would any one take the time to grow a sativa for 14 weeks that is not a great yielder,when you could grow an indica or hybrid in 9 weeks or less,or even a hash plant that if you have the right cutting is ready in 45 days to sell to the dispenceries.it would be foolish to throw money away.i have 2 sativas one has no name and one is a jacks cleaner cutting,they take 25-30 days longer to grow then my aphgan and my god bud and my rino,they yield less then everything but the god bud.if i was selling to the club i would sell them the fastest flowering if the prices are the same or even less as you say.so why would someone grow a sativa for the clubs.
 
whenever i grow a true sativa they stretch tall and pump out buds like crazy though it takes twice as long. but yield is more or less the same based on time. im not talking your average afghani but refined indicas that people have developed over time. i think were talking about different indicas or hybrids. as i said im going to be harvesting a jtr in a few weeks which will be good but my og thats ready now is better in truth. just because a strain takes more time or effort does not mean its better in its cannabinoid profile.
 
bicycle racer said:
just because a strain takes more time or effort does not mean its better in its cannabinoid profile.
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I think it's very true that just because a stain takes a long time doesn't mean it will be great (or even good)but so far in my experience there are certain profiles that haven't been achieve in the shorter flowering strains. In other words I am not aware of any shorter flowering strains have a clear, trippy, up feeling and still not produce anxiety. But I don't have access to weed like you do either, please tell me if you know of one though. I would love to be wrong about this one.

Oh BR I wanted to comment on the Mandala hashberry. In an interview they were talking about hesitating to put out an indica dominant until they covered the kind of profiles they liked i.e. sativas. I was wondering if you have smoked Satori before, or their other strains. Your saying the hashberry wasn't potent was the first i'd heard anything bad about Mandala.
 
i will say they sent me very healthy big seeds which germed well. and no i have not tried there other strains i only grew a few hashberrys so i may have screwed up myself or gotten poor phenos. i cannot say for sure that there seeds are of poor quality and would not do so without growing there strains again. i did make some white widows crossed to hashberry which i have yet to grow. i have not tried satori to my knowledge and it may be a great strain. as far as your other question i suggest true og kush it is a true all rounder knock out high while clear with no anxiety of course this is subjective to smokers preference imo.
 
bicycle racer said:
whenever i grow a true sativa they stretch tall and pump out buds like crazy though it takes twice as long. but yield is more or less the same based on time. im not talking your average afghani but refined indicas that people have developed over time. i think were talking about different indicas or hybrids. as i said im going to be harvesting a jtr in a few weeks which will be good but my og thats ready now is better in truth. just because a strain takes more time or effort does not mean its better in its cannabinoid profile.
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im not saying longer means better,im saying why would someone grow a potent long flowering sativa if he gets the same money for a short flowering hybrid.and im talking about a clear high energy,trippy soaring non paranoid sativa.whether your og are better then my hybrids is debatable,im saying why would i grow a sativa for a club that takes me almost twice as long if i can sell hybrids at the same price that i can grow 2-3 extra crops a year.keeping in mind that they are both potent for what they bring.
 
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