Why do you oppose universal, single-payer healthcare?

visajoe1 · Mar 26, 2017

schuylaar said:
Possibly..I'll give you that but not against Trump..he would've won hands down primary polls accurately predicted what would happen in a Clinton/Trump race why wouldn't I believe if the choice were Sanders/Trump that Sanders wouldn't have been at +8 or 10 points.

While I voted Hillary, I didn't feel she deserved the slot because of what was likely her role in the DNC debacle..I refused to let Russia have a hand in MY vote.

why did you vote for hillary then? because russia 100%? as she said a million times defending herself, prove it. there still isny any proof Russia did anything...although i dont have any problem with folks looking as long as they want. go for it, but shut the fuck up until you actually find something

SneekyNinja · Mar 26, 2017

visajoe1 said:
never said the owner does everything, but they do need to understand everything. no one becomes a millionaire or billionaire alone, except maybe a lottery winner. but to think a worker is more valuable than a ceo is laughable. we all have different values, if you can put your ego aside. which is why those with kids in here probly dont pay them for chores (work), their value isnt their, but their work is important.

if the cashier think they have equal value to the owner or even a manger, they are drunk.

Yeah that would be foolishness; but they are both essential.

In fact a lot of the time large corporations could benefit from having more "on the ground" experience further up the chain rather than people just chasing stockholder dividends at the expense of the company's core revenue generation.

visajoe1 · Mar 26, 2017

schuylaar said:
You go ask my owners to get their asses out in the field..see what happens..those fuckers at corporate can't be bothered to do anymore than walk around with metaphorical clipboard they are literally the laziest bunch of people I've ever worked with..pass the buck is their favorite game.

and there it is! lol. jealousy and envy.

schuylaar · Mar 26, 2017

visajoe1 said:
by selling a product and/or service and making a profit.

Hmm 'by selling a product'? And who does that? :lol:

SneekyNinja · Mar 26, 2017

schuylaar said:
Never.

But she got what she deserved too.

I know in my heart I did the right thing and can sleep well at night.

You know she only lost for the two reasons mentioned, just admit it.

Admit Hillary should have won (+4%), despite your feelings towards her.

The unfair attribution of blame is what is dividing the party.

schuylaar · Mar 26, 2017

visajoe1 said:
and there it is! lol. jealousy and envy.

They don't do their jobs.

Sir Napsalot · Mar 26, 2017

Lotta rich people are simply adept at manipulating money systems and produce absolutely nothing

visajoe1 · Mar 26, 2017

schuylaar said:
They don't do their jobs.

i would think if thats true, they would not have it much longer

visajoe1 · Mar 26, 2017

Sir Napsalot said:
Lotta rich people are simply adept at manipulating money systems and produce absolutely nothing

so, only rich people want to make the most doing the least? pretty sure we all want that. however, some are better than others

Sir Napsalot · Mar 26, 2017

visajoe1 said:
so, only rich people want to make the most doing the least? pretty sure we all want that. however, some are better than others

Poor folks just need to learn how to manipulate money systems like the big boys rather than actually being productive.

esh dov ets · Mar 26, 2017

visajoe1 said:
and you are doing?...

I never said i was only stating history . I guess i'm preacher bashing? Pointing out flawed logic and evidence. Telling the truth at least.

esh dov ets · Mar 26, 2017

visajoe1 said:
who pays the labor?

Stuck in a rigid mode of thinking. Are you alt-right most of the time and not right often?
In your world where does money come from? What happens to people when there are less jobs. There aren't enough paying jobs for eveyone to make a living wage as it is. The jobs for the poor are becoming automated for one thing. I bet you also think to feed the world we need GMO. How indoctrinated are you? Do you think? Do you believe climate change is a serious issue and real?

esh dov ets · Mar 26, 2017

visajoe1 said:
think i didnt know you would say that? we're all a spokes in the wheel bud. but, lets see the forklift guy at the campbells soup factory lead a national brand. negotiating agreements with a litany of vendors and creditors and landlords, ensuring accurate marketing campaigns with multi million dollar budgets, dealing with union contracts, state laws, federal laws, employment laws, and answer to investors every 3 months. that would be embarrassing to watch, just like watching a ceo run a forklift. can you do any of that? most cant, which is why ceo's make so much loot. anyone can drive a forklift, so, although important, there isnt much value there. thats all it is.

Fart.!
Bet you didn't know i would say that. Keep talking i bet i can figure out what county your from. I can ceo ,can my boss drive a forklift? No. The true value in a ceo is keeping the division of class in the work place

esh dov ets · Mar 26, 2017

visajoe1 said:
why did you vote for hillary then? because russia 100%? as she said a million times defending herself, prove it. there still isny any proof Russia did anything...although i dont have any problem with folks looking as long as they want. go for it, but shut the fuck up until you actually find something

All the intel agencies found something!

Rooster802 · Mar 26, 2017

SneekyNinja said:
Tl;dr

But even scanning I did notice you said ginger root is better than chemo for curing cancer, that's beyond Kelly-Anne Conway stupid.

You don't get to talk anymore.

https://foodrevolution.org/blog/ginger-cancer-treatment/
http://naturalmentor.com/ginger-treats-cancer-better-than-chemo/
http://naturalsociety.com/ginger-root-kills-ovarian-prostate-cancer-cells-better-chemo/

I may be Kelly-Anne stupid, don't have the links to refute that statement, but that bitch still has more power, money, and more of a voice than you or I so I suppose I get to keep talking.

esh dov ets · Mar 26, 2017

SneekyNinja said:
Unless the owner can concurrently perform all the duties required then they literally NEED other people.

Plus a well paid workforce don't need encouragement to do a good job (but optimal to provide it anyway), have less staff turnover (less down time and training costs) and generally make far more money...

This is common knowledge to anyone who's ever actually managed people before.

Carrot > Stick

It's a fact. Companies can run with the workers doing all the management but not necessarily the other way around.

dagwood45431 · Mar 26, 2017

visajoe1 said:
you wont repeat the same 3 burns over and over. but, what can we expect from a hs dropout

LOL! That's the first time I've burned your ass with that one and I am better educated than your entire inbred trailer park, skidmark!

Sir Napsalot · Mar 26, 2017

dagwood45431 said:

That's almost hypnotic after a coupla little bowls of GG4

esh dov ets · Mar 26, 2017

Rooster802 said:
https://foodrevolution.org/blog/ginger-cancer-treatment/
http://naturalmentor.com/ginger-treats-cancer-better-than-chemo/
http://naturalsociety.com/ginger-root-kills-ovarian-prostate-cancer-cells-better-chemo/

I may be Kelly-Anne stupid, don't have the links to refute that statement, but that bitch still has more power, money, and more of a voice than you or I so I suppose I get to keep talking.

Not saying it's not out there but that information is scary because it is against the grain. If i got cancer i would try that before chemo but have a hard time recommending it because of how it sounds. The sources i have seen this article from also promote metaphysics aka not physics. I am skeptical but i will read your links. Chemo is not 100 % effective with most cancer. And will oneday be considered something like midevil.

dagwood45431 · Mar 26, 2017

Sir Napsalot said:
That's almost hypnotic after a coupla little bowls of GG4

I love baseball stoned. It's a very dramatic game (under it's deceptively slow pace). That chubby fellow flailing helplessly at the ball in slow motion is the perfect metaphor for every single one of visajoke's posts. It's like a visual symphony of complete ineptitude.

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