WHy don't MORE people do something like this???

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pftek

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A lot of people I read do like 1 month veg then 1 month of flowering. Or they do 2 months veg and 2 months flowering.

Why not do something like 8 months of vegetating and 2 months of flowering? Like grow your clones longer since they aren't using that much more energy on CFLs??

You'd still be on a 2 month cycle after the first flush but probably produce a shit ton more???
 
Pipe Dream

Pipe Dream

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IDK what you mean 1 month bloom as it's still going to take like 2 months to flower no matter how long you veg. The reason people don't veg that long is because 8 month old plants would be enormous. You probably meant 8 weeks, the reason they don't do it is because the light intensity is dimished so rapidly for every foot you lose 75% of the light. So by keeping a lot of clones small you can pack them into smaller sapces and use the lights more efficiently and will increase yeilds. Outdoors people generally start indoors and transplant outdoors and plants become monsters because there are no height limitations and the sun's light is just as powerful to the lower branches as it is to the top.
 
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AnonymousGrower

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Just imagine and 8 month vegged plant, 5 400W HPSs (1 for the top, one for each side).... then flower with whatever remaining months you need. It would be like the nemesis project from resident evil 1... but with a plant
 
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pftek

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Pipe Dream said:
IDK what you mean 1 month bloom as it's still going to take like 2 months to flower no matter how long you veg. The reason people don't veg that long is because 8 month old plants would be enormous. You probably meant 8 weeks, the reason they don't do it is because the light intensity is dimished so rapidly for every foot you lose 75% of the light. So by keeping a lot of clones small you can pack them into smaller sapces and use the lights more efficiently and will increase yeilds. Outdoors people generally start indoors and transplant outdoors and plants become monsters because there are no height limitations and the sun's light is just as powerful to the lower branches as it is to the top.
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no i meant 8 months. maybe 6 months then? Cause you can veg with using stuff like CFL tubes. So why not just keep vegging them so you'd have monstrous clones that you can hit with 1000 hps. after the first 6 months you could throw in new clones into the flowering chamber that would be larger than a 2 month old veg plant.
 
Pipe Dream

Pipe Dream

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well irecently watched a video the guy had a 30 foot long room and only grew 14 clones in there. He harvested like a pound per plant and they were so tall they actually would start growing across the ceiling. It was pretty cool I don't remember how long he vegged, certainly not 8 months probably 4-5
 
Shrubs First

Shrubs First

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Because it is totally inefficient, time is money, it is the complete
opposite if Sea of Green the proven most effective way to get the
most yield over a long period of time, your method is the complete
opposite... thats why more people don't do it, it is a bad idea....

In the space you would fill 8 months of veg time plants, which would
probably be like 1 plant per 25 square feet, I could grow 25 plants and
yield the same amount of weight with NO veg.
 
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pftek

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Shrubs First said:
Because it is totally inefficient, time is money, it is the complete
opposite if Sea of Green the proven most effective way to get the
most yield over a long period of time, your method is the complete
opposite... thats why more people don't do it, it is a bad idea....

In the space you would fill 8 months of veg time plants, which would
probably be like 1 plant per 25 square feet, I could grow 25 plants and
yield the same amount of weight with NO veg.
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what do you mean 1 plant per 25 square foot? trim it and get it growing for some height. instead of 8 months lets reduce it to 4. so after the first cycle it'd just be like a regular SOG set up but all the plants would be 4 months in and just ready to explode.
 
MrBlanco

MrBlanco

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pftek said:
what do you mean 1 plant per 25 square foot? trim it and get it growing for some height. instead of 8 months lets reduce it to 4. so after the first cycle it'd just be like a regular SOG set up but all the plants would be 4 months in and just ready to explode.
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Dude. Plants get huge when you veg them for months.
 
Total Head

Total Head

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pftek said:
what do you mean 1 plant per 25 square foot? trim it and get it growing for some height. instead of 8 months lets reduce it to 4. so after the first cycle it'd just be like a regular SOG set up but all the plants would be 4 months in and just ready to explode.
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i think you are missing the point of what makes a sog so effective. a sog uses smaller plants by design because it is understood that indoor lighting is insufficient to light a large plant. the amount of extra light you would need to make this worth it would actually NOT be worth it. do you realize how much light is required to grow a 5 foot plant indoors just for veg? how do you plan on flowering this monster? you plan on robbing a construction site?
 
tet1953

tet1953

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I think it also depends on what you consider the veg phase. Is it from the day you put the plant in its final pot, or are you also talking about the time for cloning/germinating? From the day you cut a clone and put it in rockwool or quickpot or whatever, it takes a few weeks to develop roots, right? Then it goes in a little pot, couple more weeks, then final pot. With seeds I'm skipping the quickpot stage and going into little pot with germinated seed. Still, it's a few weeks in that.
So, if all of that is counted toward veg time, my plants are easily 2-3 months in veg. I have plenty of room in my flowering room so I like big plants.
 
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