Why God?... Why?

Mcgician

Mcgician

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DogFacedDemon said:
"God" is so utterly beyond comprehension that contemplating why "he" takes certain actions is preposterous.
First of all, we're going to have to realise that if there is a "God", it's probably an extra-dimensional entity beyond the need for genitalia - god neither urinates or has an other entity of similar scale to have intercourse with. I still find it hard to believe that in this day & age - with space travel, high technology & the awe-inspiring prophecies of quantum physics - that people still think that god moves every piece on the chess-board, for petty reasons. 'Oh look, a sinner! I had better give him some STD's & whatnot...'
I find atheism as amusing as main-stream religion; the same overly-dogmatic shit with no real proof, they've got their holy book - the god delusion, hail dawkins. It's pretty funny. Materialism? Really? Have you not heard the good news from the problem child of physics - quantum physics - that; every electron is the yawning mouth of a wormhole that leads to quadrillions of higher dimensional universes that are completely beyond rational apprehension?
Have fun saying God can't possibly exist because you can't measure it with your ruler & pencil, while a moment later denouncing jesus lovers as ignorant fools - are you feeling enlightened? :P
This isn't aimed at anyone in particular, I just enjoy ridiculing the atheist point of view because they think they're reasoning logically from religion being BS, to the creation of this unfathomably brilliant universe/multiverse being a random occurrence - 'the hubble telescope can't see any God, so there!". Flying the banner of science, while failing to acknowledge that at the root of modern science was an angelic revelation that was visited upon Rene DesCartes. People that think 'the big bang' is a sufficient explanation of the question; 'why are we here?'.
Big bang theory states: EVERYTHING SPRANG FROM NOTHING, IN A SINGLE INSTANT, FOR NO REASON.
How is that any different from "... & God said; 'let there be light!'..."?
I think most people have no clue & should stop acting like they know what the f*uck they're talking about - even if "experts" say so.
& the rest of us, that KNOW "God" & it's endless implications & boundless love...
Ummm...
We've taken magic mushrooms before.

;)
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+1. Thanks. Those were the words I was looking for, but after a ten hour workday, and so little time, I simply lack the energy for this lovely back and forth. +rep!
 
igrowdro

igrowdro

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there is a saying, that god is good. there you have it there is your god. Good is god. a good action is a noble action but it is not god. it is you. but you are not god. so what am i saying. God is any and everything that is good. satin is anything that is evil. in science it has been proven that for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. in the bible it says when cain killed abel the decendants of that one single evil deed multiplied by the millions. its like telling a lie and then having to tell another lie and then another lie to pass the first lie off as true. you have to balance it out to a million lies and it still doesnt equal telling the truth which would have been easier in the first place. if you would have told the truth then you would have influenced yourself to be more like god which would have been the good thing. you told a lie therefore you influenced yourself to b more like satin which is bad. what goes around comes around what goes up must come down.
 
doitinthewoods

doitinthewoods

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Sorry to hear that, dude. I thought the same thing after watching 5 of my friends get vaporized by an IED in a dried up river bed in Afghanistan.
 
Brazko

Brazko

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morgentaler said:
You spouted this:



You addressed the visible and physical size of space, incorrectly.

You talked about light being "sucked back".
A photon travels in one direction until the path is altered by gravity or reflection.
To "suck" light back from the distances you are talking about you would need an object behind us, relative to the object the light is being "sucked back" from, to exert gravitational force sufficient to pull light into it.
Of course we'd be in that gravity well, and would have been destroyed long before the "sucked" light made it back here.

You're blowing out unscientific, incomplete thoughts, and then dodge the answers to just throw out other items without their relevance to your train of thought.

Now I know you actually don't give a shit about it. It's a common creationist tactic to win an argument. Keep spitting out fallacies about sciences concepts of nature until someone says "Well, science doesn't know that yet". Then it's happy-dancing time, and "I proved God exists!", while the rational people look at each other and wonder who put the Jesus-juice in your drinking water.

So if you want to show good intent, and not prove to be one of those hacks, please provide one single peer-reviewed and published paper from a scientific journal proving the existence of God. Just one.

It can't be that hard to find, right?

PubMed's got over 250,000 on evolution alone.

Bonus points if you can tell me what escapes from Black Holes.
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:clap:......., FAil..:lol:, Sorry I had to do it, but you have absolutely no clue of what you are talking about, I'll prove the existence of God, When you prove you understand your God=Science...

Light travels in one direction Right? yes Right... it is traveling in all directions from Matter.. And Light doesn't escape from black holes if that's what you are trying to imply..., but I'm sure you may be talking about Hawkings Radiation, where after billions upon billions upon billions of years of minute particles that may be emitted from the Black hole may cause it to vaporize, this loss would result in energy and sub atomic particles being released.. This was suggested by Your God Hawkins, and denounced by his peers and then Later by Himself.... But there are other working theories that Physicist continue to work on due to the aspects of Quantum Physics in relation of how particles vanish then reappear..from another space time dimension..., however this isn't a fact but another plausible better idea than Hawkins RAdiation....

Stop alluding the fact you have no idea of what you are talking about, then try to use the God escape Clause to make a smooth getaway..., I'm not going to say it, however, it's on the tip of my tongue.., but stop trying to pomote your beliefs on Science, Science is Science, it sets no judgements on rather a God does or does not Exist.., it just simply states what it is able to observe with the mechanical tools we have, that are far, far, far, faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar, less advanced than our own Mind....edit, some of our minds...:lol:

I can't discuss REligion and Philosophy with Atheists, Now it seems I can't even discuss Science with 1.. Always somebody trying to impose their beliefs... Science is not a Belief, Unlike Atheism..:roll:


Now here's a Hug for You..:hug:, and I'm Through..


:peace:
 
Brazko

Brazko

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I'm still waiting on My Foot Stool..., I ain't Forgot, I have for all Eternity brother...I want to be able to Focus all My Energy on You...You know who I'm talking too, Fiddy Coming For Ya'.. Wanna Mock me Huh'.. :neutral: Behold where that Mockery has gotten you...


TiiiiiIIIIIIIiIiiIIIime, is on Myyyyy Side, Yes, it is, TiiiiiiIIIIiiIIIIIiImme is on Myyyy Side,, Yes it is..
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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I don't have to mock you.

You've done a fine job of making a fool out of yourself, vomiting forth random nonsensical crap, with very brief bursts of readable dialog.

Wow. Fiddy is coming for me. Should I be looking up some rap lyrics now, so I can understand where Fiddy is coming from? Or would you like to tell us all what they mean, so you can get them wrong too.

Yes, time is on your side, but you'll be spending it alone and stupid. :)

Ignored.
 
Brazko

Brazko

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morgentaler said:
I don't have to mock you.

You've done a fine job of making a fool out of yourself, vomiting forth random nonsensical crap, with very brief bursts of readable dialog.

Wow. Fiddy is coming for me. Should I be looking up some rap lyrics now, so I can understand where Fiddy is coming from? Or would you like to tell us all what they mean, so you can get them wrong too.

Yes, time is on your side, but you'll be spending it alone and stupid. :)

Ignored.
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Illogical Circular Reasoning..,

Avoid the fact I addressed your Post, and politely gave you A Hug, because I Love You..

Then illogically feel I'm talking about you, when I'm talking directly to you, still trying to allude the fAct you have no Idea of What your talking About...

Illogical Circular REasoning.., I found another Observant contagious Disease you all CArry as WEll..Obviously, CJ does it much better, but he's Quite not like the REst of You Either..., Still falling Short on the Totem Pole...:lol:,

Ignore Me, You act as If I Started Breathing when you appeared, I'll wait to you REincarnate yourself Again..:lol:
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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This is awesome. I can see that he's posting, but all the crap is just filtered away.
Science gave us technology. Technology gave us the internet. The internet gave us forums. And Ignore filters the stupid out.
 
Juan Abongheet

Juan Abongheet

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jfgordon1 said:
Last night my buddies 16 year old sister passed away in a car crash. If there is a God... why would he do this? She had so much to live for. Beautiful, smart, fun...

Is God evil ?

How do people make excuses for "God"? "God has a plan"


:cry:
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I posed a similar question to a firm southern baptist and his reply was this:
"God has a plan for all of us. The death of another is not something which we need to assign reason to- its Gods plan. We need to not see the death as plainly as a loss, but more as God showing us a glimpse of his plan."
I thought it was complete bollocks, thus my belief in Deism. There is a reason for things, but to define that reason is to be fallible in human thought- i.e. we dont know so how can we explain?
 
Brazko

Brazko

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and non sensical, I take it that you have no Clue about Hawkins Radiation aS Well..., PItiful, What you think, just because I dropped outta 5th Grade and had to labor secretely at McDonalds mopping up the Floor, I wouldn't Someday make it to Fries.., You have no Idea What they teach you in The Secret Society of Golden Arches...:lol:
 
Juan Abongheet

Juan Abongheet

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A lot of this reminds me of that Southpark episode...


Science be Damned!


(edited out crappy HTML that found its way to be posted...)
 
Brazko

Brazko

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Juan Abongheet said:
I posed a similar question to a firm southern baptist and his reply was this:
"God has a plan for all of us. The death of another is not something which we need to assign reason to- its Gods plan. We need to not see the death as plainly as a loss, but more as God showing us a glimpse of his plan."
I thought it was complete bollocks, thus my belief in Deism. There is a reason for things, but to define that reason is to be fallible in human thought- i.e. we dont know so how can we explain?
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Well, I have an Opinion on what the Plan is, but it's just a human thought -

There is No Plan per Se'.. The only plan is to return, and be Whole..., WE are separted from that Whole and will return to that whole when the Energy we poessess is able to Detach itself from the Material Universe..., We live our lives so the Soul, Spirit, Energy, Matures to the point it is free of the Material World... Shit happens..., Accidents, heartaches, because everybody is absorded into themselves, caring for only themselves and not the Whole.., If you care about your Brothers, ther Wouldn't be accidents because you wouldn't be speeding and not looking out for your human Brother/Sister..., Bridges would not collapse if indivduall entities didn't want to lose money that would benefit themselves and expend the energy to make everybody safe that traveled those roads..., People would not suffer or be homeless, or have to travel and Work odd # of jobs just to make it because Their Neighbor was too selfish, Chilling in their 20 room mansion, with 30 cars for every day of the Month... to continue on is dreadful in thought, but maybe you understand the point.., The misery we have is because we choose to be selfish and cling to a Material World, that only inhibits the Spirit, Energy, Soul, from maturing... So as We learn to Mature shit happens to People and That energy, Soul, Spirit, has to start over, but not from the beginning, it is Carried over into the next Cycle of Life, Where that energy,Soul, Spirit, picks up where it left off.., and eventually it will progress through life where that energ/ Spirit/ Soul has matured enough to move ON from this Materialistic World, it no longer has a Need for it..., Unfortunately the Innocent get caught up in the Melay of the Selfish and Shit happens.., There is no Plan per se'.., Only plan is that we will Return to the Whole from which we were divided...,

This is Just a Thought from a Limitied Human, I have no actual knowledge of what beholds us in this Infinite Universe

:peace:
 
Juan Abongheet

Juan Abongheet

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Brazko said:
Well, I have an Opinion on what the Plan is, but it's just a human thought -

There is No Plan per Se'.. The only plan is to return, and be Whole..., WE are separted from that Whole and will return to that whole when the Energy we poessess is able to Detach itself from the Material Universe..., We live our lives so the Soul, Spirit, Energy, Matures to the point it is free of the Material World... Shit happens..., Accidents, heartaches, because everybody is absorded into themselves, caring for only themselves and not the Whole.., If you care about your Brothers, ther Wouldn't be accidents because you wouldn't be speeding and not looking out for your human Brother/Sister..., Bridges would not collapse if indivduall entities didn't want to lose money that would benefit themselves and expend the energy to make everybody safe that traveled those roads..., People would not suffer or be homeless, or have to travel and Work odd # of jobs just to make it because Their Neighbor was too selfish, Chilling in their 20 room mansion, with 30 cars for every day of the Month... to continue on is dreadful in thought, but maybe you understand the point.., The misery we have is because we choose to selfish and cling to a Material World, that only inhibits the Spirit, Energy, Soul, from maturing... So as We learn to Mature shit happens to People and That energy, Soul, Spirit, has to start over, but not from the beginning, it is Carried over into the next Cycle of Life, Where that energy,Soul, Spirit, picks up where it left off.., and eventually it will progress through life where that energ/ Spirit/ Soul has matured enough to move ON from this Materialistic World, it no longer has a Need for it..., Unfortunately the Innocent get caught up in the Melay of the Selfish and Shit happens.., There is no Plan per se'.., Only plan is that we will Return to the Whole from which we were divided...,

This is Just a Thought from a Limitied Human, I have no actual knowledge of what beholds us in this Infinite Universe

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nicely nicely!
I agree- its like one of the fundamental truths of Buddhism- with life comes suffering, suffering is caused by desire.
We desire to have these things which we feel we need- i.e. in your example of cars and other material BS, which only serves us 'in the flesh'. In reality, we have what we have- ourselves and each other- we are our brothers keeper and when, as Jimi put it, :the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know true peace."
Well said, my friend! + rep
 
Brazko

Brazko

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Juan Abongheet said:
nicely nicely!
I agree- its like one of the fundamental truths of Buddhism- with life comes suffering, suffering is caused by desire.
We desire to have these things which we feel we need- i.e. in your example of cars and other material BS, which only serves us 'in the flesh'. In reality, we have what we have- ourselves and each other- we are our brothers keeper and when, as Jimi put it, :the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know true peace."
Well said, my friend! + rep
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Thanks, Bro'...., and Yeah, You Got It


:peace:
 
V

vtguy429

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Sorry to hear bro, careful as to where your questioning leads as this is a very indepth subject that I don't believe a human mind is yet capable nor ready to understand, you will only loose time dwelling.. My condolences to you, your friend, and his family.
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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Babs34 said:
LOL, Morgan never says which it is.
Are we eager or scared to die?
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Christians can hardly wait to be with Jesus, but sure do pray a lot not to get there too quickly.
I guess not every one is 100% if their final destination is the penthouse or the basement.
 
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