Why Green light IS needed in LED panels (Catalyst)

If your thinking of buying an Led panel, you should spend half an hour reading this first. http://pcp.oxfordjournals.org/content/50/4/684.full I was blown away and suddenly realized what is missing from Led panels to make them the ultimate HID killer. I've spoken to a few led sellers and they just don't seem to get it, but we have to remember that plants have been evolving for a few billion years with the Sun. I own a couple of Blackstars and although my results are improving dramatically from my first grow, I still feel that there is something missing from the kick ass kind of results that I want . Don't get wrong, I know green light by itself is useless to plants for photosynthesis however from that article (that I hope you all read). It would seem to me that it is a kind of a catalyst for blue and red. So anyway let me know your thoughts peeps

I will definitely read that tomorrow, about to get some sleep (I work nights). In the mean time, if you have some free time, read the posts by cannawizard on pages 42-44 in this post : https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/452030-c-wiz-green-lab-amc.html . It is about plasma lighting, but it also has some intriguing and valuable information about the entire spectrum and how our plants react to certain parts of it. I really feel like it could help ANYONE who reads it, (besides the most experienced growers, or those who have read it already).

I think that plants love the sun, so as close as you can get to that should be best, yeah?

Orithil said:

I think that plants love the sun, so as close as you can get to that should be best, yeah?

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Yea, that's why I posted that link. On those 3 pages I referenced on that thread there is a bit of good information about the sun's spectrum, and attempting to re-create it artificially. It really is worth the read if you have the time, it doesn't take more than a half hour, prolly less.

To long to read this morning (sent the PDF to my phone for later) but I'm guessing it has something to do with missing spectrums disrupting other spectrums stability and the plants ability to absorb the other spectrums? Sure green is reflected, but it still hits the plant before it's reflected. Do the reflected photons bombarding the plant sort of turn the leaf into a martini shaker for the used spectrum and other materials?

It's basically a bunch of research on plasma lighting, but more specifically Artificial Solar Spectrum. In an effort to conclude that plasma lights could be the way of the future indoor garden, they had to go through a long explanation and analysis of our beloved cannabis plant and analysis of the sun's spectrum. I learned a lot, to say the least. It took me a bit to read, but when I finished I was a little sad haha. It was very informative...for me, at least.

Just don't force yourself to read it! I tried it at first without motivation and I got halfway through the first section and realized I didn't remember anything I just read lmao. I got pretty blazed last night

fireproof said:

To long to read this morning (sent the PDF to my phone for later) but I'm guessing it has something to do with missing spectrums disrupting other spectrums stability and the plants ability to absorb the other spectrums? Sure green is reflected, but it still hits the plant before it's reflected. Do the reflected photons bombarding the plant sort of turn the leaf into a martini shaker for the used spectrum and other materials?

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It's all about intra leaf absorption rates and quantum yield, just like I said , it's sort of a catalyst for red and blue (layman's terms). Remember when all the led panels start having green in them, you heard it here first )

virulient said:

Yea, that's why I posted that link. On those 3 pages I referenced on that thread there is a bit of good information about the sun's spectrum, and attempting to re-create it artificially. It really is worth the read if you have the time, it doesn't take more than a half hour, prolly less.

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Hi there I read that article in it's entirety a while ago (thanks for the reminder). The only problem with plasma lighting is that it emits hardly any UV which of course in cannabis plants is needed for resin production as the resin also acts like a sun screen, hence more thc. So yes they are great for growing other kinds of plants, this is the reason why good led panels are now using a certain percentage of UV emitters in them. peace bro !

maxpesh said:

Hi there I read that article in it's entirety a while ago (thanks for the reminder). The only problem with plasma lighting is that it emits hardly any UV which of course in cannabis plants is needed for resin production as the resin also acts like a sun screen, hence more thc. So yes they are great for growing other kinds of plants, this is the reason why good led panels are now using a certain percentage of UV emitters in them. peace bro !

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In any grow you can get a small UVB CFL and hang it about 2 ft from your canopy. This is a low wattage, low heat, and simple solution. The same poster of all that plasma lighting information made an extremely useful post about UVB supplemetation. You're right about the natural sunscreen though, although it's tough to prove, scientifically. He explains it all in that thread. As usual, thanks to Cannawizard for another great source of information.

Heres the link : https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/435960-c-wiz-ultraviolet-thinktank-uvb.html