why is my water milky brown and have stuff floating in it?

I just cleaned my res and mixed up new soup with H202.

The next day it is cloudy brown and with crap floating in it. Just for illistration purposes, it looks like a patch of dead skin floating on top of the water. It is brown and slimy to the touch.

I drained my res again and scrubbed it with bleach. Mixed up new soup with more H202.

The next day it looks like shit again.

This crap is in my roots and gets in my res during watering I am sure?

FWIW, I have had a problem with slow groth for a while now, but never had my water look like this. I am sure the two are related tho.

I have a new batch of clones ready to hit the tray and I am holding them back at the moment to see if I can get this fixed.

What is it and how do I make it die?

What do your roots look like? Are they healthy, or can you easily pull roots off? What color has the solution been on previous grows? Have you changed nute brands?

It sounds like you have a pathogen of some type to me. Clean out the rez again, then dip the roots in a 5% Hydrogen Peroxide solution a few times before putting them back into the solution. See if that helps.

Vi

I must admit that I have noticed this a few times going back 4 months or so, but it was ever so slight and always went away with the next water change. Nothing like now.

My flowering plants that got zero veg. time finished with light brown, underdeveloped roots. I have reciently started to veg. my plants to give them a jump start before going into flowering. These plants have been in flowering 2 weeks now and still have white roots that look healthy. The water in this flowering tray is ALMOST clear.

My mother plants have white roots that look healthy. The water in this tray is now milky.

The veg tray that I just setup is the worst of them. Water is milky and has stuff floating around. The plants here first went onto the mother tray for a few days before going into the new system. Like my past struggles, they are experiencing slow growth so most don't have any roots showing yet. The ones that just started to show are showing white root tips.

My mother tray and veg tray both got hit on the same day with this crap.

For the record, all clones started with full healthy roots.

I was using brand A from the start of my grow up until I setup my veg tray. After it got milky and I changed the water out, I switched to AN, instead of Brand A.

When you say dip the roots, do you mean flood the entire pots? They are on a flood and drain tray, so I am guessing I would have to soak them past the normal flood level to kill all the bads?
How long can I soak them in the 5% H202 mixture for?

Thank you,
I will soak all my plants and then bleach all of my equipment.

Be careful with the bleach it WILL leave a residue behind so make sure you clean with hot water after you clean with the bleach.
What is the medium that you are using, and are you able to post a picture of the system, and the res? It doesn't sound like anything I have heard before so pictures can really help. One thing that stood out to me was that you are using H2O2 in your res, although I have heard of this before I personally do no recommend doing it. Maybe you can try mixing up another fert mixture without the peroxide.

hygrozyme, add it to your rez and change out daily, it gets ugly before it gets better, the hzyme breaks down the pythium, do this for 5 days and no more pythium and fresh new root growth, watch your rez temps

forget the h202 soaking, wont help, the pythium will be back the next day, h202 is a never ending battle, you must sterilze everything that your plants and roots come in contact with, use the h2o2 for cleaning

Good point take a look at your root base, where the plant stalks ends the the roots start. If it not pretty white then you will need Hygrozyme. The stuff is not cheap so make sure you use it wisely, and you should be ok.

morrisgreenberg said:

forget the h202 soaking, wont help, the pythium will be back the next day, h202 is a never ending battle, you must sterilze everything that your plants and roots come in contact with, use the h2o2 for cleaning

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Should I clean all my equip before or after treating with hygrozyme? maybe both?

mdgcmd said:

Good point take a look at your root base, where the plant stalks ends the the roots start. If it not pretty white then you will need Hygrozyme. The stuff is not cheap so make sure you use it wisely, and you should be ok.

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I have heard hygrozyme will feed the bad stuff. I just want to confirm that it WILL KILL the bad stuff before colonizing the roots with good stuff.

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Light Leak sounds like the problem. Is there any light getting into the Rez?

Light getting into one of my reses but the other two have lids on them.

recently there was a thread bashing hygrozyme, some saying it was a bad batch, heres how hygrozyme works, if you do not have any current issues with your rez, adding hygrozyme will do nothing but help maintain healthy white roots, the minute you add hygrozyme to your rez and you "had white roots" before application and saying it turns your roots brown, guess what? you already had some root bacteria or disease and it was not coming to fruition. applying h'zyme to infected roots will go after any and all bad bacteria, if your roots have these bacteria, the roots will be eaten away along with the baddys, this is how you know the hzyme is working, when your rez water gets nasty looking and peieces of dying roots are floating in it, see disgusting build up on walls of rez, you know what i mean. now once you have pythium, just adding hygrozyme will not do the trick, thats where people will bash the product, to cure this disease infected roots, its best to apply hzyme to a cleaned and sanitized res, and repeat the process for 5-7 days, only because the rez gets horrible in just 24hrs, im sure you dont want that nasty mosh going through your pumps and recycled back to the plants, if you use hzyme in this manner you will be successful, all the old infected roots will be disolved in 5-7 days and new roots will grow aggressivly, i know the stuff is expensive but it WILL SAVE YOUR CROP. do not use h202 with hzyme together, the h202 will nulify any benefical actions of the hzyme as h202 eats organic matter ad bacterias, just like hyzme, only diff is Hzyme IS an organic matter, use pure 3% h202 for cleaning out the rez, i advise you to clean the rez and run the system if you can with hot water and h202, then go thru the hzyme regiment, i have used various methods and other products and nothing works like hzyme in my opinion, now hzyme is used as a preventative maintaince

i dont know if i was being clear on this, but change out the rez daily with hygrozyme

beneficial bacterias such as myccorhizal produce the enzymes that attack the bad bacterias, all hzyme does is cut out the beneficials and gets straight to the point, bad bacteria eating enzymes!

I had this problem before bro....its the temp of your water....i added a chiller and all that slime went away.

word up! temps did this to me the first time, now i grow by one simple rule, no a/c no hydro

What type of nutes are you using? If you are using any kind of organic nutes, H2O2 WONT help, You can only get the benefits of H2O2 with a chemical type nute, like CANNA.

Advanced Nutrients, Sensi.

btw is liquid karma compadible with h202? I stopped useing it when I started in with h202 and have a couple gallons of it left over.

UPDATE

I just spent the last 14 hours cleaning two of my three systems.
I bleached everything. Hoses, pumps, you name it.

I mixed up a 5% solution of 35% h202 and soaked every plant for 5 minutes, then flushed them. I did this twice and ended up going through an entire gallon of h202. When I put the pot in the mix it looked like the water was boiling. Hydroton was literally poping out of the top from the bubbles! Bubbles went from brown to white.
I figure this is about the best I am going to be able to flush them.

My mother tray I setup with h202 like normal and my veg tray I setup with hygrozyme. Consider my op now a science experiment.
I will update again if anyone is interested in the results.

sounds good, the only reason i personally dont like the h2o2 is that you gotta stay on top of it, once its mixed with water in 3-4 days it loses that extra oxygen atom and thus becomes water, and if you do get root rot, hzyme is the answer, i been through it all with roots and its the best shit i have used, matter of fact i think its problem solving ability and maintaince is top of my priority list when it comes to grows