why these sallad-leafs? and yellowish leafs..

hey.
out of the 5 fem bubba kush i got, 3 seems to be wrong. they have leafs that reminds me more of some kind of sallad. whats with that?
and i got some weird flies i tried getting rid of with some lice-killing thing, is that what has made the yellowish leafs? or am i overfeeding them?
anyways the flies didnt die, but i noticed the bag i have with the coconut fiber soil i use, standing on the balcony had some flying around, so i figured they live in the soil.
from there i heard putting sand above the soil will prevent them from comming up and making new ones. and so i did. however, now im worried its too heavy. i didnt press it down or anything so i think the coconut soil underneeth is still "airy" but i got adviced to remove the sand (sterile birdsand btw) and replace it with some .. leca balls? (i am not sure if this will be understood in english)
..um well i think thats for now.
any suggestions? thnx

...whats your pH like? Your leaves are deformed/claw.
...looks like they need N.
...what have you been feeding them?

hi. ive been feeding them with advanced nutrients, grow, micro and a few times a little bit of voodoo juice.
however the flies i mentiond, i have a theory that when theyre like.. worms.. maggots (sorry my english is not always perfect) befor they turn into flies. living in the soil, and i think maybe theyve been eating the roots or something, i have no idea, third set of plants and no experience of any bugs befor. the ph is between 5.8-6.6 i guess. i just aim to end up somewhere between those numbers.

well the ph is kinda important you need to know what it is. if you have been feeding them nutes you need to lay off them and get the ph right before you cause any damage nicce stems on those tho damn those stems could withstand a hurricane lol

they reallly dont look to bad it could be to much or not enought nitrogen but before you add anything! fix the ph your h should be 6.3-6.9

well, i am willing to take the 5.8 up to 6, but im not going anywhere above 6.8 im very rarely under 6anyways. its not like its all out of control!! haha

5.8 is more of a hydro set up you should never go below 6.3 get a liquid ph tester and ph water to about 6.5 and you will be fine.

but listen. i have nine plants, 4 diffrent strains, 5 are bubba kush and its the only ones that get these leafs.. so im thinking if it might have been bad seeds? or that that strain maybe need some extra anything?

keep it real. said:

5.8 is more of a hydro set up you should never go below 6.3 get a liquid ph tester and ph water to about 6.5 and you will be fine.

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but i do have a ph meter for the water, i do test it each and everytime befor i give them any water. but the 5.8 sounds for hydro and not soil sounds sensible its just so many diffrent advice all over lol

also what soil is that?

ok if you have one water your plant with higher phed water like 6.5 and your problem will be solved

ok, thnx. ive been using some coconut fiber thingy.. but apparently its rare over here so i probably should look into other options.. shipping would be well expencive for soil lol

um, the plant is growing, but its still looking more like sallad.. i got the ph up a little (6.4-6.6), using the grow nutes, however the problem is just this one plant the otherones do not have the sallad leafs, so should i assume it was a bad seed and that i shouldnt really bother keeping it, i mean when it has the same conditions as other ones whos looking great,then i dont think its the water i give it?
what i mainly wonder is, can bad seeds give results like this?(pictures in first post)

moist air makes leaves grow biger in a salad way , if it already have the genetics of a salad mutation it gets worse , try to have humidity at around 40-50% but still its the genes , most mutations are sucetable to varius problems , grow it but dont excpect to get much out of it , focus on the normal leaved plants , it may turn out the bigest yealder or something but thats just a percentage , good luck

ok hehe thank you dont really have the heart to throw it out cus of it looks, just doesnt look very healthy. ill give it a few more weeks, but it doesnt seem anything is happening with the leafs at all.. it just gets taller n gets more of them. still 8 out of 9 looks healthy n fine, 4 out of 5 of this strain are looking great too, it wouldnt be the biggest loss.
and again.. with all the other plants looking fine, i still dont think the humidity n temp or water or soil is the problem. they all had the very same conditions?
um, and im not sure about asking off topic things, but i have 3 amnesia in bloom, 2 of them are looking stunning and thick stems and pretty tall, however the third is about half the size n more bushy. is this cus maybe theyre diffrent sexes? i can not see any balls of any kind on either of them, 3 weeks of bloom just looking very diffrent.

if u post pics of the whole plants i may spot the males , but bushines and height is not a sex determiner by itself , the most advanced plants tho tent to be males

here they are..
when buying feminized seeds, can you really get males? or is it just those.. cant remember the word, but those whos both male n female?

battey said:

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here they are..
when buying feminized seeds, can you really get males? or is it just those.. cant remember the word, but those whos both male n female?

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hermaphrodites is the word youre looking for...no, Id guess not hermie. and yes the occasional male does slip thru but its like once out of a hundred or something. if those are all from the same seeds then there are 2 very different phenotypes which is just 2 different variations of the same parents, just like brothers can vary a great deal in height etc.
The leaves all look the same, indica varieties tend to be shorter and bushier whereas sativas generally are taller and thinner so looks like you got some of each

If you are using advanced nutrients in COCO fibre then you have to also add Sensi Cal/Mag or another calcium/magnesium substitute as the advanced nutrients doesnt have enough Cal/mag in it.


I have had this information from AN and they advised to add 200ppm of sensi cal/mag when growing in COCO fibre.


pH of 5.8-6.5 is ok for coco. It is a hydro medium so you can treat it like that.


J

jondamon said:

If you are using advanced nutrients in COCO fibre then you have to also add Sensi Cal/Mag or another calcium/magnesium substitute as the advanced nutrients doesnt have enough Cal/mag in it.


I have had this information from AN and they advised to add 200ppm of sensi cal/mag when growing in COCO fibre.



pH of 5.8-6.5 is ok for coco. It is a hydro medium so you can treat it like that.


J

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ah! thank you for this info.
Cus of lack of cash i only got a phmeter, so i cant really measure the ppm at the moment. its on the top of the toget list though, but i have not been keeping track of that at all.
lol right now my heads a mess with all of this. i have so many questions.. when having so many diffrent questions, would i be better off doing a overall-thread in the newbie forum, or maybe keeping a journal? i dont wanna go too much offtopic but is alos starting to feel annoying when i make new threads for each n every single thing i wonder about (its not quite that bad lol)
right now i have two growtents and i need to have some changes done in order to get it set up better, in the bloom tent i currently have 120LED panel running 12hours,and a 400hps set to run 4 or 5 hours (cant remember but can check the timer if needed) like for one hour at a time, i guess its like 1out of 3 hours will have the hps light running, really its just my memory thats bad, and also my english is not perfect.
in the veg-tent theres a 90w ufo, but i realized that with the clones n the ones growing from seeds in there the 90w is not gonna be enough cus it needs to be so close.
im thinking to move the 120w panel into the veg tent.. but how many flowering plants can this 400w hps take care of? its 120x120x200 tent? if id move the led panel out now in 3d week of flowering, will they miss it when theve been used to having it, or will they just like having the hps 12hours a day better?
fuck. idunno folks. i guess im just really confused right now. lol