Wifi controlled LED Drivers and their ilk

dabby duck

dabby duck

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I was inspired by the sonoff thread https://www.rollitup.org/t/sonoff-wifi-wireless-smart-switch.948196/

Has anyone done a diy build with actual wireless drivers and how soon before they start showing up in a bunch of builds?
Integrate timing
on off control plus environment controls [I am just guessing here, as the sonoffs already have. rudimentary temp/humidity on off]



I found drivers from ERP
https://www.erp-power.com/our-products/wireless-led-drivers/

And L tech which seem good for 20v strip builds
http://ltechonline.com/html/en/products/Dimmable-LED-Driver/WiFi-LED-Driver/WiFi-Smart-LED-Driver/

Phillips has some under Xitanium, but I havent really looked, I have never seen a build here using Phillips drivers?

Nothing from meanwell...?
 
dabby duck

dabby duck

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I hope this doesnt turn into a meanwell reliability thread, first because meanwell doesnt even have a plug and play unit, at least on the market. Second calling it bro science and then elaborating with more bro science, sinks the thread.
Third your right, a diode doesnt need much, just some dc switched over from ac. Which all led drivers do, right. Well, driver tech has been around for decades switching dc motors and hasnt changed much.

Nothing wrong with Phillips either, I suspect that because of their funky voltage orientations that a lot of early cob adopters werent using them as such they dont get play, which carried over to the diffuse strip and panel guys, who now gravitate to cv drivers and paralleling the large current amounts. Phillips doesnt really produce a line like that and probsbly has been overlooked.

Inventronics
Lumatek
Phillips Horticulture
Others too make drivers

All kinds of drivers, but where is the wifi, thats the focus?


I have still working meanwells pulled from 7 years of life over a fish tank and now pushing three years in shoplights, running 18 hours a day. I only wish Meanwell had some wifi ready drivers...only the uninitiated would think otherwise.
 
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Slinging PAR

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dabby duck said:
I hope this doesnt turn into a meanwell reliability thread, first because meanwell doesnt even have a plug and play unit, at least on the market. Second calling it bro science and then elaborating with more bro science, sinks the thread.
Third your right, a diode doesnt need much, just some dc switched over from ac. Which all led drivers do, right. Well, driver tech has been around for decades switching dc motors and hasnt changed much.

Nothing wrong with Phillips either, I suspect that because of their funky voltage orientations that a lot of early cob adopters werent using them as such they dont get play, which carried over to the diffuse strip and panel guys, who now gravitate to cv drivers and paralleling the large current amounts. Phillips doesnt really produce a line like that and probsbly has been overlooked.

Inventronics
Lumatek
Phillips Horticulture
Others too make drivers

All kinds of drivers, but where is the wifi, thats the focus?


I have still working meanwells pulled from 7 years of life over a fish tank and now pushing three years in shoplights, running 18 hours a day. I only wish Meanwell had some wifi ready drivers...only the uninitiated would think otherwise.
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Well maybe it should be a discussion about reliability to enlighten the folks here. Meanwell reliability isn't anywhere near as good as other manufacturers. They were selected by the 'gro bro' community as the low cost option and no one challenged it back then. And I agree, the 'gro bro' community then tried to back them up with more 'gro bro' science once challenged.

Meanwells are easy to get because they are the cheapest option for street lamps and most of their sales are to city lighting departments that order them in the 10s of thousands at a time. Even with the high failure rate compared to other manufacturers, the discounts you get at those volumes more than make up for it.

PWM is far superior. Not going to go into the reasons why, as it is far above the 'gro bro' comprehension level. Meanwell has a limited offering for PWM (3 products) none of which are good for the better rated higher voltage chips. Topping out at 54v, the best you can use from Bridgelux is the mid tier 'B' line of CoBs. That allows disreputable vendors to bait and switch customers using the Bridgelux name which is why people need to do their research first into what they are getting. Or better yet, just order from the reputable suppliers and build your own.

This is also where Alibaba excels when it comes to drivers. If you know what you are doing you can order to spec and get much better products at lower cost. Better means a lot of things; performance, reliability, size, efficiency, interchangeability just to name a few.
 
Abiqua

Abiqua

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Slinging PAR said:
Well maybe it should be a discussion about reliability to enlighten the folks here. Meanwell reliability isn't anywhere near as good as other manufacturers. They were selected by the 'gro bro' community as the low cost option and no one challenged it back then. And I agree, the 'gro bro' community then tried to back them up with more 'gro bro' science once challenged.

Meanwells are easy to get because they are the cheapest option for street lamps and most of their sales are to city lighting departments that order them in the 10s of thousands at a time. Even with the high failure rate compared to other manufacturers, the discounts you get at those volumes more than make up for it.

PWM is far superior. Not going to go into the reasons why, as it is far above the 'gro bro' comprehension level. Meanwell has a limited offering for PWM (3 products) none of which are good for the better rated higher voltage chips. Topping out at 54v, the best you can use from Bridgelux is the mid tier 'B' line of CoBs. That allows disreputable vendors to bait and switch customers using the Bridgelux name which is why people need to do their research first into what they are getting. Or better yet, just order from the reputable suppliers and build your own.

This is also where Alibaba excels when it comes to drivers. If you know what you are doing you can order to spec and get much better products at lower cost. Better means a lot of things; performance, reliability, size, efficiency, interchangeability just to name a few.
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Crayons!
 
skoomd

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nfhiggs said:
Superior to *what*, exactly? Superior in what way?
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PWM causes flickering. Which in industrial enviornments is a HUGE issue with rotating/high RPM machinery. And for your plants, I can't imagine they like the flickering either. Fuck PWM.

Aolelon said:
I bet hes using a meanwell driver to power his LED's right now, if he has any at all.
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Of course he would be. Meanwell are some of the best drivers, if not the best you can buy for LED purposes. They have a fucking 7 year warranty for gods sake. No company putting out shitty unreliable products would give a 7 year warranty.

For him to say alibaba drivers are much better than meanwell is a total load of stinky, hot bullshit.
 
dabby duck

dabby duck

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Slinging PAR said:
Go join wetiefras in the 'gro bro' gallery.

You were easily defeated before with such finesse.

This time you are too late to the party.

I shall leave you all in peace and happiness.

Knowing that a certain thread still remains under lock and key.
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How come you cant recommend a single wifi related driver.? Thats what baffles me, where have we crossed paths before, where you would think that topic deviation is acceptable, let alone the rambling.
All your posts have been reported and I hope others do the same about staying on topic, the rest is to myopic to care about, really.

Being anonymous isnt reason enough to pull the bro potato act. I hope you correct the injustice you seek.
 
Aolelon

Aolelon

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I wonder what kind of interface those drivers use to program them with. Pretty cheap tbh. 75$ would think they would be a little more expensive
 
Randomblame

Randomblame

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Aolelon said:
I wonder what kind of interface those drivers use to program them with. Pretty cheap tbh. 75$ would think they would be a little more expensive
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They use apps and are compatible with iOS, Android and Windows. Some also have a USB connection.

Meanwell offer the HLG series not alone as A and B modells, there is also a D modell with build-in timer and the ability to change max./min. voltage and current of the driver within a certain range. I don't remember if they are wireless but they have a USB connection. But to be honest, I've only seen some youtube vids about it and don't remember all of the topic.
 
Aolelon

Aolelon

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Randomblame said:
They use apps and are compatible with iOS, Android and Windows. Some also have a USB connection.

Meanwell offer the HLG series not alone as A and B modells, there is also a D modell with build-in timer and the ability to change max./min. voltage and current of the driver within a certain range. I don't remember if they are wireless but they have a USB connection. But to be honest, I've only seen some youtube vids about it and don't remember all of the topic.
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That's what I was wondering I know so off has an app, was just wondering if it's the same app or one like it as it wasn't listed.
 
Randomblame

Randomblame

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Aolelon said:
That's what I was wondering I know so off has an app, was just wondering if it's the same app or one like it as it wasn't listed.
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No, they use their own apps and I don't believe you can flash alternative firmwares with that drivers to make it work with your home automation system. It's probably propritary code. But it's possible that they implement such features later or it's already implemented!
 
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