Will clones from a monster cropped plant become monster cropped themselves?

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Robogreen

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The question before now is: since it is almost time for me to take clones again should I take them from these 2nd generation re-vegged plants now in the veg stage or wait till flower and take em?
If this theory holds the clones will go thru a re-veg process like last time and become monster cropped. Or if I take em from plants in flower will they re- veg twice or just die?
Anyone had this experience? Clones from a re-vegged plant go through re-veg process themselvs as they grow?
 
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Robogreen

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lusidghost said:
No, they will be normal clones.

*I read that wrong. I'm now confused.
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Sorry it is confusing, Ill try to be more clear :

Will clones from a re-vegged plant go through re-veg process themselves as they grow up on continuous 18/6 light ( with all the re-veg attributes like sketchy curly leaves that eventually clear up)?
This happened to me. Will it continue to happen again if I take clones from each successive crops offspring?
 
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lusidghost

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Robogreen said:
Sorry it is confusing, Ill try to be more clear :

Will clones from a re-vegged plant go through re-veg process themselves as they grow up on continuous 18/6 light ( with all the re-veg attributes like sketchy curly leaves that eventually clear up)?
This happened to me. Will it continue to happen again if I take clones from each successive crops offspring?
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I don't believe so. All of my mothers were monster cropped at one point, and I can't remember if the first batch was funky because it's been years, but the clones were all normal for years afterwards.
 
lusidghost

lusidghost

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Wait, do you mean if you put the clones into flower, and then clone them, will they show reveg signs? If so yes.
 
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Robogreen

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lusidghost said:
Wait, do you mean if you put the clones into flower, and then clone them, will they show reveg signs? If so yes.
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No, you understod it right in your comment you made above this one.
My clones were never deliberatly put into flower. Just simple taken from a monstercropped ( re-veggeg)mother and never put on a flower light sch.
this first batch def showed re-veg sings and I am wondering if the batch now taken from these will do the same.
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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Robogreen said:
No, you understod it right in your comment you made above this one.
My clones were never deliberatly put into flower. Just simple taken from a monstercropped ( re-veggeg)mother and never put on a flower light sch.
this first batch def showed re-veg sings and I am wondering if the batch now taken from these will do the same.
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NO
You didn't run 24/7 long enough to complete the reveg
 
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Robogreen

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Herb & Suds said:
NO
You didn't run 24/7 long enough to complete the reveg
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The re-vegged mother plant the clones taken from had already vegged for 8 weeks plus doubled in size 3 ft tall and few days away from going into flower light sch. when cuttings taken . that s why kind of looks like the clones just inherited trait to show re-veg signs. about 1 week or two after they had rooted. They been vegging now for several weeks, developing very nice and grew abundant of branches, still have some curly re-veg looking leaves left, but the branches and side branches are strong and abundant.
If this "re-veg" trait keeps getting passed down looks like my clones will always be re-vegged and ready made "monstercropped" which isnt a bad thing.

So my questions were:

Does anyone think this trait will likely continues to get passed down to future clones of the these clones.

Has anyone experienced this phenomenon?
 
Budderton

Budderton

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It's a good rule to wait until the re veg material is back to five leaflets in the fans and in full veg mode before you cut.
I cloned a Carl's Shoes too early thinking they would continue to re veg. They rooted fine but stayed in that re veg state, under 24hr. I let them veg for a month or so and they just wanted to go back to flower, leaflets counting down, throwing calyx, etc. Could not get them or clones of them to veg proper. I had heard of this being a possibility but this was my only experience of cuts getting stuck.
 
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Robogreen

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Budderton said:
It's a good rule to wait until the re veg material is back to five leaflets in the fans and in full veg mode before you cut.
I cloned a Carl's Shoes too early thinking they would continue to re veg. They rooted fine but stayed in that re veg state, under 24hr. I let them veg for a month or so and they just wanted to go back to flower, leaflets counting down, throwing calyx, etc. Could not get them or clones of them to veg proper. I had heard of this being a possibility but this was my only experience of cuts getting stuck.
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Thanks, sounds exactly like whats happened to me. Weird part is cuts were taken after the re-veg was vegged for over 2 months , 3 feet tall and ready to go on 12/12

So it is true - cuts from a re-veg can carry over some genetics causing itself to " auto " re-veg.

Side note a weird thing happening now clones are displaying PK deficiency on leaves. I had to give them PK booster in the VEG state. They are clearing up. In a week they are going on 12/12.

My big question is now could this be ,(however little troublsome) a good strain that will have built in monstercrop attributes that I should keep going with. They are very branchy with dense side branches up top.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Robogreen said:
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The question before now is: since it is almost time for me to take clones again should I take them from these 2nd generation re-vegged plants now in the veg stage or wait till flower and take em?
If this theory holds the clones will go thru a re-veg process like last time and become monster cropped. Or if I take em from plants in flower will they re- veg twice or just die?
Anyone had this experience? Clones from a re-vegged plant go through re-veg process themselvs as they grow?
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If you revegged a plant and after it was vegging you took clones from that vegging plant then the clones will be normal clones taken from a vegging plant. That's as long as you reveg the plant you take clones from long enough to get it back to normal.

If I'm understanding correctly you are asking if

Plant A was flowered and then revegged.

Plant A was successfully revegged and is growing normal leaves.

Clones are then taken from Plant A.

Those clones will be normal clones.

If you take clones from a plant that looks like this that has not fully revegged your clones will be funky for awhile.




If you take clones from a revegged plant that looks like this and has started growing full leaves the clones will grow normal right from the start.

 
Star Dog

Star Dog

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If you take them from a vegging plant they'll be regular clones, if you take them in 12/12 you'll get funky growth for a bit.
Tha fact it was revegged doesn't matter its the phase of the plant when the clones are cut that matters.
 
Southernontariogrower

Southernontariogrower

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Robogreen said:
The re-vegged mother plant the clones taken from had already vegged for 8 weeks plus doubled in size 3 ft tall and few days away from going into flower light sch. when cuttings taken . that s why kind of looks like the clones just inherited trait to show re-veg signs. about 1 week or two after they had rooted. They been vegging now for several weeks, developing very nice and grew abundant of branches, still have some curly re-veg looking leaves left, but the branches and side branches are strong and abundant.
If this "re-veg" trait keeps getting passed down looks like my clones will always be re-vegged and ready made "monstercropped" which isnt a bad thing.

So my questions were:

Does anyone think this trait will likely continues to get passed down to future clones of the these clones.

Has anyone experienced this phenomenon?
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Future cuts will be clones of veg, not reveg. Thus no not monster after cuts made, only reveg can be monster, or clone of flowering plant allowed to reveg.
 
Southernontariogrower

Southernontariogrower

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Robogreen said:
Thanks, sounds exactly like whats happened to me. Weird part is cuts were taken after the re-veg was vegged for over 2 months , 3 feet tall and ready to go on 12/12

So it is true - cuts from a re-veg can carry over some genetics causing itself to " auto " re-veg.

Side note a weird thing happening now clones are displaying PK deficiency on leaves. I had to give them PK booster in the VEG state. They are clearing up. In a week they are going on 12/12.

My big question is now could this be ,(however little troublsome) a good strain that will have built in monstercrop attributes that I should keep going with. They are very branchy with dense side branches up top.
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Built in monster crop? No such thing.
 
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