Will epsom salt (magnesium sulphate) feminise seeds?

HotPhyre

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The answer is no..epson salt is added in your water to fix magnesium deficiencies in ur plants diet...there is a few ways of making them fem. One like the jeyermum said with colloidal silver,another somas method grow a female out past its harvest date for it to push out hermie bananas to fertilize other plants at the proper age in flower, to make fem. Seeds.
 

jyermum

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^^^^^Real deal ^^^^^^

HotPhire. Correct me if I'm wrong here but it's my understanding that the hermie banana technique is why many people think that all fems have a high herm rate. Because seeds made like that came from stressed (from overgrowth) herm's. When making flowers with the silver method it's actually flowers with pollen that are genetically still 100% female so there is no greater tendency to herm in the resulting seeds.

Im going to try to find the resource where I found this info to confirm.
 

jyermum

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Ok. Here's some pieces of the info that I saw. The thread and data with pic's was posted by Grumpy Old Dreamer @ riddlem3(dot)com

The application of Colloidal Silver to a female plant will “trick” the plant into believing that it is a male and it will then produce “male” flowers, the pollen from which will produce female seeds.
This “trickery” has nothing to do with stress, nothing to do with self-preservation and certainly nothing to do with hermaphrodites. In terms that I barely understand, the silver molecules in the Colloidal Silver bind with copper molecules in the bud sites. The copper is used for ethylene production in female plants which tells the plant to produce female flowers – as the copper is tied up with the silver, the ethylene is not produced and the plant thinks it’s male – maybe “male” is the default setting.
The colloidal silver simply combines with the copper molecules in the cannabis plant. It doesn't change the plant physically or genetically - it is the same plant ... however ... in female cannabis plants, copper is used for ethylene production which lets the plant know it is supposed to be female and produce female flowers. When the copper molecules are no longer freely available in the plant (they are bound to the silver molecules that were in the colloidal silver) the plant no longer produces ethylene (where the CS has been applied) and no longer will grow female flowers (where CS has been applied).
The plant will produce flowers when sexually mature and put under the required 12/12 photoperiod lighting schedule, but if the ethylene is not present at the bud-site then the flowers cannot be female, and the plant is forced to grow male flowers.
If you apply CS to a part of a female plant, then that part will not be able to produce female flowers and will produce male flowers ... JUST where the CS was applied.

It is not stressing the plant.

Plants operate through a number of different chemical indicators and hormones - what they do is dependent on the presence/absence of these hormones/chemicals. They don't have eyes, ears, fingers etc. as a means of assessing their environment, nor a brain to process whatever input they get. Their whole behaviour is controlled at a chemical/hormonal level, and by manipulating these indicators we can control the plant in some areas.

There is too much emphasis put on "STRESS" causing hermies.
Cook them, burn them, snap them, starve them, poison them, do whatever you want to the plant and it won't hermie ... unless you significantly screw with the lighting schedule. Repeatedly interrupt the dark period (when flowering) with bright light and you will probably turn the plant hermie (if it is susceptable to such stress). Pretty much anything else won't bother the plant.

Colloidal Silver does not STRESS the plant, and as just mentioned STRESS is bullshit, light poisoning is the only stress that causes hermies ... except extreme old age when the self preservation trait kicks in.

Just found a thread the same poster did here... https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/387589-producing-feminised-seeds-using-colloidal.html
 

HotPhyre

Well-Known Member
^^^^^Real deal ^^^^^^

HotPhire. Correct me if I'm wrong here but it's my understanding that the hermie banana technique is why many people think that all fems have a high herm rate. Because seeds made like that came from stressed (from overgrowth) herm's. When making flowers with the silver method it's actually flowers with pollen that are genetically still 100% female so there is no greater tendency to herm in the resulting seeds.

Im going to try to find the resource where I found this info to confirm.

Thats awesome man thanks for the resource...i remember reading that meathod in somas book and always thought that in the back of my mind but over the years it being proved wrong just confirms it too. Im not one usually to speard bad info, so sorry for the above statment but i know if i ever decided to make fem seeds for myself the colliodial silver method is the way to go.
 

jyermum

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I've been trying to find more info but it seems like everything is from grow forums. I would love to get some info from 1st hand scientific sources but it does seem like the grumpy old dreamer has his shit together.
 
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