Will The Presidency Lift Federal Prohibition?

overfiend

overfiend

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maybe federal will never make it "legal" right now they got us where they want us.
too many people wanted medical marijuana so they passed a law ,in a few states, to try out this approach. they are probably thinking people may be on to something with weed having medicinal uses. federal law just keeps more people from growing tons of bud,i dont think they will ever give up this stand especialy if we keep saying its for medical use. how many medicines do you see becoming "legal"? most meds you get a script for have to be bought at the pharmacy not a club. i think maybe untill they find a way to harness the thc/cbd content better via pills or inhailer they will allow you to use it for medical use,but once they have a better or similar way that THEY can control this, medical marijuana thing will be gone
 
CrackerJax

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Biggravy22 said:
Obama has stated on the record he believes it should be decriminalized but not legalized.
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Well Obama has said many things, but words don't equate action. Shoulda, woulda coulda, is not did, done , been there.....

We'll see. It may be a "promise" but it has to be way down on the list. We'll see....:confused:


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ststepen420

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He said he was for it and then later on said otherwise, both interviews are on youtube. I figure that small amounts are gonna be decriminalized in the next few years. It wont be legal, that would take alot for that to happen. All the people in this country that love to smoke it arent all that keen on doing anything about it. Forget Obama and Mcain, where are the voters for Nader or Ron Paul? If you really want something done then get your ass off the couch and do something about it. Potheads are too lazy and unorganized to ever get such a person in power. We all talk a good game but when it comes to action are hands are tied by our own agendas.
 
CrackerJax

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ststepen420 said:
He said he was for it and then later on said otherwise, both interviews are on youtube. I figure that small amounts are gonna be decriminalized in the next few years. It wont be legal, that would take alot for that to happen. All the people in this country that love to smoke it arent all that keen on doing anything about it. Forget Obama and Mcain, where are the voters for Nader or Ron Paul? If you really want something done then get your ass off the couch and do something about it. Potheads are too lazy and unorganized to ever get such a person in power. We all talk a good game but when it comes to action are hands are tied by our own agendas.
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If we could just get a few meth heads to take the reins of the NORML Lobby, we might just get something done. Plenty of hilarious You tube vids would be provided as well I imagine :eyesmoke::mrgreen:.


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NewGrowth

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I think it is very possible there will be no more federal raid on MMJ in California under Obama he said "Its a waste of our resources". I think Obama is good for the legalization movement because he will respect the states rights issue. Here in Colorado we have making very good progress, having less than an OZ in Denver is now legal . . . we still are fighting with local prosecutors but for the most part progress is being made thanks to Mason Tvert and SAFER.SAFER - Home
 
Biggravy22

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CrackerJax said:
Well Obama has said many things, but words don't equate action. Shoulda, woulda coulda, is not did, done , been there.....

We'll see. It may be a "promise" but it has to be way down on the list. We'll see....:confused:


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Who said anything about promises? He said this at a discussion at a university. Besides the man can't do much of anything at this point but talk.
Give him time. Sure he has much more pressing issues on his plate, but im sure he'll make his way around to it in due time.
 
CrackerJax

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If you read up a bit, it was someone else who said it was a promise, not I. I merely threw out the prospect that IF it was a "promise", it is way down on his list of things to do to fulfill the many many promises he has committed himself to already, and they are many and varied. Like I said, we'll see. :peace:


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slackjack

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bradlyallen2 said:
No I don't think it will happen like this at all. Their is nothing to contest if the feds take a clinic because they are in compliance with FEDERAL law. The state may not like it but oh well. What is required is a directive from the executive level of the DEA to not enforce federal law in the cases of medical MJ in states where state law allows it. No one is going to actually change the federal laws because that is a very hot potato. It would be difficult to get re-elected inmost states when your opponent hammers you on being soft on crime because you voted to legalize dope.
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Exactly, I won't pretend to know everything about our extremely silly court system, but situations happen all the time that challenge federal law. They have to do appeals and all sorts of stuff to get in front of the supreme court, and whether they allow that to happen or not depends on alot of issues. We already know that this hypothetical person in our future will be within his states rights, so it will indeed go immediately to a federal court. From their hes is already half way to being where he needs to be. With the help of Cannabis Advocacy groups, this case will get in front of the Judicial system that can set national precedents, then win in favor of the states rights and until a court rules otherwise, federal law will be interpreted to respect the states rights to prescribe cannabis as a medicine (I said nothing of legalization and Obama's fingers are kept fully clean of any of this). Just as Abortion rights are not a law anywhere only a court precedent (Roe v Wade).
From there, who knows, indeed, maybe Obama could get a second term and help press for legalization/decriminalization. I don't see it happening except through tiny steps. Even Canada hasn't legalized yet, and I'm sure the US will not pave the way on this issue.
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snyder007

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Madison NORML this ordinance was passed in 1977.

Do I wish pot was legalized/decriminalized? Yes. Will it happen? Probably not any time soon. I am however glad to hear that the feds will no longer be taking medicine away from people who honestly benefit from medical marijuana. That is a big step toward Obama making his intentions known when it comes to MM.
 
ElBarto

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Mr. Buford Terrell, former Professor of Law at South Texas College of Law, made an interesting point in a recent interview with Dean Becker on Becker's radio show, Cultural Baggage.

Dean Becker: Well, ok. I tell you what. Let’s talk about the Obama election. Let’s talk about, I think it’s kind of scary… even Bob Barr changed his mind. He use to be a zealot, a drug warrior but he’s now calling for the end of prohibition.

But Senator Biden, Chief of Staff, Raum Emanuel, the portended Attorney General Holden, and the more unknown Drug Czar candidate, might be Dr. Donald Vereen of NIDA, but all of these guys are not going to make a big turn around in the drug war. Yeah, your thoughts on that, Buford.

Mr. Buford Terrell: Well, there’s one thing about it. Raum Emanuel and Obama both, are experience classical politicians. They read voters. They read polls. They’re both very practical men and I think that, especially things like the voting margins, in the Michigan medical marijuana and the Massachusetts marijuana decriminalization, will have an effect on them.

Obama has already indicated that he’s in favor of ‘not’ letting the feds interfere with state medical marijuana laws. Congress is starting to feel it’s oats and not only the numbers but the orientation’s who changed enough there.

I like, I’m going to say that in this next session of congress we’re going to see, at least, decriminalization of marijuana on a national level.​
 
Seamaiden

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The mind(s) that needs changing isn't Obama's. He does not make laws, he only signs or vetoes them. The minds that need changing are those of our representatives.
 
ElBarto

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I asked several drug policy reform groups for a statement on Obama's nomination of Eric Holder to head up the Justice Department. The consensus seemed to be mild disappointment tempered with cautious optimism that despite his recent staff selections, Obama will keep his campaign promises to end the federal raids on medical marijuana dispensaries and work to ameliorate the discrepancy in crack/powder cocaine sentencing...

Who Obama ends up choosing to head up the DEA and ONDCP will be a far better indicator of whether he intends to continue the Bush administration's aggressive prosecution of the drug war, or if he's looking at a more tempered approach.

My prediction? He'll call off the medical marijuana raids. Anything more would be a pleasant surprise.

Radley Balko
Drug Policy Reform Organizations Weigh in on Holder
 
bigtittymilf

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with 2 wars and a shitty economy i think he is gonnna be too busy trying to fix bushges mess to worry about weed honestly
 
diemdepyro

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It may be forced issue, cannabis could replace 20 percent of prescriptions, drug companies need to be cash strapped so they can not continue the prohibition.
 
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CrackerJax said:
I'll give a nice clean and simple answer. No.

It's a non issue right now. Neither candidate had to talk about weed on the trail. Politicians almost always take the path of least resistance. So,..... no. :cry:



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But isn't generating revenue (other than raising taxes) going to be important to a man that believes in bigger goverment? And will that push the Dem's to legalize it? I hope so:bigjoint:
 
HomeGrownHairy

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CrackerJax said:
Funny you should mention that :-P. Back in the 70's I was just a kid and my Uncle worked for brown& Williamson tobacco Co. he told me they were all ready to roll an entire wing of assembly production for weed. It was very close to happening. Very. DAMMIT!! :fire:


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LOL...I think he might have been kidding you. Just another Big Tobacco company inside joke...:lol: I'll bet'cha!!!
 
misshestermoffitt

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This just in, Illinois DCFS will stop drug testing applicants. Apparently the budget is just too tight.

I think it will be budgets that eventually lead to legalization.
 
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