Will vegetating for longer mean higher yield?

Londoner

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I used to veg for 3 months under cfl's then I started vegging for 11 days, yeild went up, never top just keep them intact and you can put more under 1 light. That method I yield 1.87-2 lbs per light.
Idiots I don't bloom under cfl's, I was referring to vegging, which I do for 21 days after the clone is cut.I have 600 watt digital s for that!
idiots???????? :finger:
 

bonz

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thx bud.
i was going to pick up some seeds today but had to go save a buddies plants so tomorrow i will be getting some mango and doing a detailed journal on it.
 

richborgo

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When you consider cloning takes an average of ten day to be heavily rooted , ad 11 more to that you have 21 days. By the end of flowering they are three feet tall. Jack is my strain.
 

bonz

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When you consider cloning takes an average of ten day to be heavily rooted , ad 11 more to that you have 21 days. By the end of flowering they are three feet tall. Jack is my strain.

i do it by seed, the best way.
but i have done clone and i get mine to clone within 5 days. clones dont need to be HEAVILY rooted, as soon as you see the roots poke out of the peat puck or what evr you use then into the dirt. you shouldnt let the roots sit out in the light anyways.
my way is about 5 to 7 days clone, then inti dirt thyen about 2 waeeks 7 to 10 days veg and then flower
 

richborgo

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As far as seeds the best way????? Are you high????????? 50 50 shot on male or female as opposed to guaranteed results by cloning. Also good plants don't produce seeds. I clone using ez cloner aeroponic machines , out of my last 540 clones I had 1 that did not root. I leave them in there longer than normal to reduce transplant shock when they go into dirt, have never had one die after it hit dirt using this method.
 

323cheezy

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rich man...bonz is an expert at this....and id hate too sound mean but.....you sound awfly newbish man....clones are good to grow....no doubt....but thats not the point....bonz gives good advice.... stop trying to upstage him...
 

bonz

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As far as seeds the best way????? Are you high????????? 50 50 shot on male or female as opposed to guaranteed results by cloning. Also good plants don't produce seeds. I clone using ez cloner aeroponic machines , out of my last 540 clones I had 1 that did not root. I leave them in there longer than normal to reduce transplant shock when they go into dirt, have never had one die after it hit dirt using this method.

you can try and prove me wrong all day buddy, wont be sucsessfull.
i will put any seed up against any clone and i will get a bigger stronger and more bud than your clone hands down.

have you tried this test side by side??
do you have your proof that clones are better??

i get a 90% female seed ratio with mine, mabee your genetics suck if you are getting to many males, or dont know what to do to improve those odds. any female plant will seed. being sucsessfull at clonuing dosn`t mean anything.
if you want to watch and see how watch my new journal i am starting. i bought some dutch treat yesterday6 and i will be posting a step by step cfl cabinet build for them. mabee you might learn something. mabee i`ll learn something??
 

E.T

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rich you sond like a tosser! bonz knows his shit. and i tend to think his idea works a little better.
 

bonz

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every body will have thier own way of growing. i dont think i`m such a hot shot know it all but all of the info i provide has been tested by myself or fellow breeder and scientists and grower so it tends to have a little more backing.
you can read these stories all day on here, dosen`t mean they workl, most have just heard stories or believe everthing on the net.
or people do 1 or 2 grows and think they know it all.
 

Londoner

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you can try and prove me wrong all day buddy, wont be sucsessfull.
i will put any seed up against any clone and i will get a bigger stronger and more bud than your clone hands down.

have you tried this test side by side??
do you have your proof that clones are better??

i get a 90% female seed ratio with mine, mabee your genetics suck if you are getting to many males, or dont know what to do to improve those odds. any female plant will seed. being sucsessfull at clonuing dosn`t mean anything.
if you want to watch and see how watch my new journal i am starting. i bought some dutch treat yesterday6 and i will be posting a step by step cfl cabinet build for them. mabee you might learn something. mabee i`ll learn something??

i do agree with what you say bons, seed growns definately yeild more and are much more robust and hardier plants than clones, but i am intrigued as to how you achieve a 90% female ratio with seed, do you use feminised seeds? best ratio i ever achieved was 70/30 female/male using regular seeds, just wondering what your germ methods are that give such a high female ratio? i just use feminised seeds nowadays, dont have the space nor time for males anymore.
 

bonz

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i feel feminized seeds are a waste of money. there is no more a guarantee to those being female than the regular. ( good breeders )
i will post the method in a bit, having some computer trouble right now
 

Londoner

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cool, but ive been growing from fem seeds for three years since my second son was born and i had to scale down my rooms to make space, never had a male and only one hermie since, imo if you dont have the time or space for males then fem seeds are definately not a waste of money, people tell me this shit n that shit about fem seeds but ive only ever had good experiences with them, if anything better coz i dont have to waste soil nutes growspace or time on males. if you have the space and time then yea grow regular seeds. and i only buy from good well established breeders.
 

bonz

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i think i mat have to reload here, shit comp.
if you want to look for it yourself it is an interesting read. look uo soma seeds he`s the breeder i folowed for this
 

bonz

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thought what. i have the info saved to my fav`s and i cant get in right now. dont worry i will provide. i dont shoot my mouth off if i dont have scientific evedence or did it myself.
 

E.T

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Bonz, have you tried a female hormone product called La-femme? Its ment to make all plants female... They make it and sell it here in Australia i tried it for the first time this grow and both seeds came out to be female.... So that was either luck or it actually works, ill have to use it a few more times before i can say if does work or not but you guys might like to try it
 
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