Will You Take The Vaccine?

Are you going to take the corona virus vaccine?

  • No.

  • Yes.


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Fogdog

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Stinkys cult are dying for the dear leader.



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West of the Cascades is looking pretty good right now. East of the Cascades, the only areas with high numbers of vaccinated are ones that suffered the most last year. Bend actually has very high vaccination rates. It sits amid a field of antivaxxers where the virus feasts.
 

CCGNZ

Well-Known Member
Chappelle is one of the few who actually causes me uncontrolled laughter, his couple yrs. on the Comedy Channel were classic and I wish he stood on longer,Player Haters Ball,Rick James skits w/the late Charlie Murphy,When Keepin it Real Goes Wrong all hillarious.ccguns
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Believing bullshit has never been so fatal as it is now, the great die off of the ignorant and stupid. As soon as the mRNA vaccines come out of emergency use, insurance companies will make stupidity a preexisting condition for the unvaccinated.
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Covid case, death and hospitalization rates adjusted for unvaccinated people - Washington Post
The unseen covid-19 risk for unvaccinated people

Covid-19 cases, deaths and hospitalizations have been declining in the United States. On May 26, the U.S. case rate, or seven-day average of new confirmed cases per 100,000 residents, was lower than at any point in the past 11 months.

But in some parts of the country, that rosy picture hides the strength of the pandemic among unvaccinated people. For example, Washington state’s overall case rate is close to the U.S. average when cases are measured across the state’s entire population.

Half the U.S. population is vaccinated, however — and they are mostly protected from infection. In Washington, if we remove vaccinated people from the population used to determine the case rate, the numbers paint a more realistic picture of Washington’s cases among unvaccinated people.

These adjusted numbers paint a far less optimistic picture: Washington’s case rate among unvaccinated people is as high as it was in late January, near the peak of Covid infections.

The country’s declining covid-19 case rates present an unrealistically optimistic perspective for half of the nation — the half that is still not vaccinated.

As more people receive vaccines, covid-19 cases are occurring mostly in the increasingly narrow slice of the unprotected population. So The Washington Post adjusted its case, death and hospitalization rates to account for that — and found that in some places, the virus continues to rage among those who haven’t received a shot.

The rosy national figures showing declining case numbers led the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to loosen mask recommendations two weeks ago and President Biden to advise people to take off their masks and smile.

But adjustments for vaccinations show the rate among susceptible, unvaccinated people is 73 percent higher than the standard figures being publicized. With that adjustment, the national death rate is roughly the same as it was two months ago and is barely inching down. The adjusted hospitalization rate is as high as it was three months ago. The case rate is still declining after the adjustment.

In the United States, the current case rate for unvaccinated residents is similar to the case rate for all residents on December 31.

Unvaccinated people are getting the wrong message, experts said.

“They think it’s safe to take off the mask. It’s not,” said Lynn Goldman, dean of the Milken Institute School of Public Health at George Washington University. “It looks like fewer numbers, looks like it’s getting better, but it’s not necessarily better for those who aren’t vaccinated.”

States with high rates among unvaccinated people
The adjusted rates in several states show the pandemic is spreading as fast among the unvaccinated as it did during the winter surge. Maine, Colorado, Rhode Island and Washington state all have covid-19 case spikes among the unvaccinated, with adjusted rates about double the adjusted national rate. The adjusted rates of Wyoming, West Virginia, Oregon, Florida, Michigan and Pennsylvania are slightly lower than the highest states.

Maryland, Virginia and the District of Columbia have adjusted rates below the national average. In the region, however, lower vaccination rates in the Black community have concentrated cases there to an extraordinary degree. Before vaccines, Black people were about one third of new covid-19 patients in Maryland and half in D.C.. In the latest data, Black people are just under half of the new cases in Maryland and more than 80 percent in DC.

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Oregon’s current surge is driven in part by a covid-19 variant known as B.1.1.7, which is 50 percent more contagious, said Tom Jeanne, a deputy state epidemiologist and a senior health adviser, in an interview.

It is characterized by outbreaks traced to social gatherings with unvaccinated people and no masks.

“They’re at very high risk for infection,” Jeanne said.

Washington state officials say they are caught between applauding the optimism that comes with vaccination and warning everyone who isn’t vaccinated that it’s still dangerous.

“Things are getting safer for those who are vaccinated,” the state’s secretary of health, Umair A. Shah, told The Post. “For those who are unvaccinated, they remain at risk. We have to make sure that nuanced message is getting to our community.”

States with high death rates
In addition to cases, several states still have relatively high death rates.

Coronavirus vaccines are virtually perfect in preventing deaths, so the decline in deaths nationally hides the steady covid death rate among unvaccinated people.

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Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maine, Florida and Illinois all have adjusted death rates about 50 percent higher than the national adjusted rate.

Maryland’s adjusted death rate is above the national average. D.C. and Virginia are just about at the national average.

Looking at the death rate is not a good measure of the current spread of the pandemic, experts said, because it is a “lagging indicator” — people dying are usually infected at least a month earlier, which means deaths don’t reflect current community spread of the disease. The steady adjusted death rate, however, shows that unvaccinated people are not yet getting safer.
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DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
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People more likely to end up in the hospital
Experts often point to hospitalization rates as a critical measure of the pandemic, because they reflect people getting very sick and aren’t dependent on how much coronavirus testing a community is doing. When current hospitalizations are spread across only the unvaccinated population, D.C. and Michigan have rates about twice as high as the adjusted national rate. Pennsylvania, Maryland, Florida and Rhode Island have rates about 50 percent higher than the adjusted national hospitalization rate. Virginia’s adjusted rate is below the national average. A D.C. spokesperson said the rate could be affected by out-of-state residents in local hospitals.

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Unvaccinated young adults in Maryland have the same infection rate as they had in the January surge, according to a state analysis. Even worse, the risk of hospitalization among the infected has more than doubled, possibly because of widespread coronavirus variants, said Ted Delbridge, executive director of the Maryland Institute for Emergency Medical Services Systems.

Washington state has been publicizing the extreme threat of hospitalization for unvaccinated people. It said unvaccinated seniors are 11 times as likely to get hospitalized than seniors who got the shot. For unvaccinated people age 45 to 64, the chance of covid-19 hospitalization is 18 times higher.

Shah, the state secretary of health, worries people are being left behind while others feel the pandemic is past.

“I hope this does not become a tale of two societies,” he said. “The people who are vaccinated and are protected can resume their lives, taking off their masks.

“The people who are not vaccinated are the ones who are not wearing a mask or washing their hands. Those are the very people who often times will socialize and be around similar like-minded people. You’re going to have the pandemic continue in those clusters.”
 
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doublejj

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Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) issued a statement that the federal laws don’t prevent private employers to require their employees from getting vaccinated against COVID-19.
 

mooray

Well-Known Member
But what if you say something about Jesus? Can't I manipulate religion to get whatever I want?? Maybe I need to have a talk with my pastor, because I was lead to believe I could have whatever I want.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) issued a statement that the federal laws don’t prevent private employers to require their employees from getting vaccinated against COVID-19.
I imagine they would get a cheaper rate on group health insurance if every one was vaccinated. Then again, stupidity is about to become a preexisting condition, as soon as the mRNA vaccines come out of emergency use statues and that shouldn't be too long with all the accumulating real world data. Let the whining and bitching begin!
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
But what if you say something about Jesus? Can't I manipulate religion to get whatever I want?? Maybe I need to have a talk with my pastor, because I was lead to believe I could have whatever I want.
Only in a couple of states as far as I know and they can be required to wear a mask if they aren't vaccinated. I feel those state laws pandering to religions will be tested in the SCOTUS soon enough and I don't think the fanatics will be happy with the results.
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
Believing bullshit has never been so fatal as it is now, the great die off of the ignorant and stupid. As soon as the mRNA vaccines come out of emergency use, insurance companies will make stupidity a preexisting condition for the unvaccinated.
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Covid case, death and hospitalization rates adjusted for unvaccinated people - Washington Post
The unseen covid-19 risk for unvaccinated people

Covid-19 cases, deaths and hospitalizations have been declining in the United States. On May 26, the U.S. case rate, or seven-day average of new confirmed cases per 100,000 residents, was lower than at any point in the past 11 months.

But in some parts of the country, that rosy picture hides the strength of the pandemic among unvaccinated people. For example, Washington state’s overall case rate is close to the U.S. average when cases are measured across the state’s entire population.

Half the U.S. population is vaccinated, however — and they are mostly protected from infection. In Washington, if we remove vaccinated people from the population used to determine the case rate, the numbers paint a more realistic picture of Washington’s cases among unvaccinated people.

These adjusted numbers paint a far less optimistic picture: Washington’s case rate among unvaccinated people is as high as it was in late January, near the peak of Covid infections.

The country’s declining covid-19 case rates present an unrealistically optimistic perspective for half of the nation — the half that is still not vaccinated.

As more people receive vaccines, covid-19 cases are occurring mostly in the increasingly narrow slice of the unprotected population. So The Washington Post adjusted its case, death and hospitalization rates to account for that — and found that in some places, the virus continues to rage among those who haven’t received a shot.

The rosy national figures showing declining case numbers led the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to loosen mask recommendations two weeks ago and President Biden to advise people to take off their masks and smile.

But adjustments for vaccinations show the rate among susceptible, unvaccinated people is 73 percent higher than the standard figures being publicized. With that adjustment, the national death rate is roughly the same as it was two months ago and is barely inching down. The adjusted hospitalization rate is as high as it was three months ago. The case rate is still declining after the adjustment.

In the United States, the current case rate for unvaccinated residents is similar to the case rate for all residents on December 31.

Unvaccinated people are getting the wrong message, experts said.

“They think it’s safe to take off the mask. It’s not,” said Lynn Goldman, dean of the Milken Institute School of Public Health at George Washington University. “It looks like fewer numbers, looks like it’s getting better, but it’s not necessarily better for those who aren’t vaccinated.”

States with high rates among unvaccinated people
The adjusted rates in several states show the pandemic is spreading as fast among the unvaccinated as it did during the winter surge. Maine, Colorado, Rhode Island and Washington state all have covid-19 case spikes among the unvaccinated, with adjusted rates about double the adjusted national rate. The adjusted rates of Wyoming, West Virginia, Oregon, Florida, Michigan and Pennsylvania are slightly lower than the highest states.

Maryland, Virginia and the District of Columbia have adjusted rates below the national average. In the region, however, lower vaccination rates in the Black community have concentrated cases there to an extraordinary degree. Before vaccines, Black people were about one third of new covid-19 patients in Maryland and half in D.C.. In the latest data, Black people are just under half of the new cases in Maryland and more than 80 percent in DC.

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Oregon’s current surge is driven in part by a covid-19 variant known as B.1.1.7, which is 50 percent more contagious, said Tom Jeanne, a deputy state epidemiologist and a senior health adviser, in an interview.

It is characterized by outbreaks traced to social gatherings with unvaccinated people and no masks.

“They’re at very high risk for infection,” Jeanne said.

Washington state officials say they are caught between applauding the optimism that comes with vaccination and warning everyone who isn’t vaccinated that it’s still dangerous.

“Things are getting safer for those who are vaccinated,” the state’s secretary of health, Umair A. Shah, told The Post. “For those who are unvaccinated, they remain at risk. We have to make sure that nuanced message is getting to our community.”

States with high death rates
In addition to cases, several states still have relatively high death rates.

Coronavirus vaccines are virtually perfect in preventing deaths, so the decline in deaths nationally hides the steady covid death rate among unvaccinated people.

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Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maine, Florida and Illinois all have adjusted death rates about 50 percent higher than the national adjusted rate.

Maryland’s adjusted death rate is above the national average. D.C. and Virginia are just about at the national average.

Looking at the death rate is not a good measure of the current spread of the pandemic, experts said, because it is a “lagging indicator” — people dying are usually infected at least a month earlier, which means deaths don’t reflect current community spread of the disease. The steady adjusted death rate, however, shows that unvaccinated people are not yet getting safer.
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Fuck 'em.
 

mooray

Well-Known Member
Only in a couple of states as far as I know and they can be required to wear a mask if they aren't vaccinated. I feel those state laws pandering to religions will be tested in the SCOTUS soon enough and I don't think the fanatics will be happy with the results.
I hope you're right. Religion is just a thought/idea and has no business being mixed in the color/age/gender, things you have no control over. Speaking strictly from a rights perspective, one person's ideas have no more value than another.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Could a lawyer sue in Jesus' name for defamation and character assassination if they claim that Jesus spoke to them and offered total enlightenment on their death bed as consideration?
Principle of law that you can't defame the dead, only the living. Then again, some claim he did rise from the dead after 3 days and ascended to heaven, so ya never know! I think the holy zombie would have to sign off on the suit though and getting the signature of Jesus H. Christ might be difficult.
 

Obepawn

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antifa is short for anti fascist; you know the reason we had WW1 and WW2? how quickly we forget.
It's not that people forget, it's that most people don't read or care to read more than a small paragraph. A German philosopher once said, “I’ve learned from history that people don't learn from history”.
 
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Dr.Amber Trichome

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Now fully vaccinated for over a month I can’t begin to tell you how amazing i feel from my vaccination . I can do all the things I did before the Pandemic and so grateful for it. I still wear my mask when grocery shopping for some reason and it’s all good. Wearing a mask in
Public now feels so natural I don’t mind at all although the freedom to not wear it and smile at people is just priceless .
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
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People more likely to end up in the hospital
Experts often point to hospitalization rates as a critical measure of the pandemic, because they reflect people getting very sick and aren’t dependent on how much coronavirus testing a community is doing. When current hospitalizations are spread across only the unvaccinated population, D.C. and Michigan have rates about twice as high as the adjusted national rate. Pennsylvania, Maryland, Florida and Rhode Island have rates about 50 percent higher than the adjusted national hospitalization rate. Virginia’s adjusted rate is below the national average. A D.C. spokesperson said the rate could be affected by out-of-state residents in local hospitals.

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Unvaccinated young adults in Maryland have the same infection rate as they had in the January surge, according to a state analysis. Even worse, the risk of hospitalization among the infected has more than doubled, possibly because of widespread coronavirus variants, said Ted Delbridge, executive director of the Maryland Institute for Emergency Medical Services Systems.

Washington state has been publicizing the extreme threat of hospitalization for unvaccinated people. It said unvaccinated seniors are 11 times as likely to get hospitalized than seniors who got the shot. For unvaccinated people age 45 to 64, the chance of covid-19 hospitalization is 18 times higher.

Shah, the state secretary of health, worries people are being left behind while others feel the pandemic is past.

“I hope this does not become a tale of two societies,” he said. “The people who are vaccinated and are protected can resume their lives, taking off their masks.

“The people who are not vaccinated are the ones who are not wearing a mask or washing their hands. Those are the very people who often times will socialize and be around similar like-minded people. You’re going to have the pandemic continue in those clusters.”
What happens this year regarding the epidemic: Areas with high rates of vaccinated people will mostly recover.

Areas with low rates of vaccinated people will completely open up this summer and in the winter hospitals in their area will be swamped with covid patients. Medical crises in the worst areas. Essential workers will find work elsewhere. Parents will relocate in order to get their kids into school. People won't go out in sufficient numbers to keep the service industry going. Those areas will not recover economically.

It will be Biden's fault according to the antivaxxers.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
What happens this year regarding the epidemic: Areas with high rates of vaccinated people will mostly recover.

Areas with low rates of vaccinated people will completely open up this summer and in the winter hospitals in their area will be swamped with covid patients. Medical crises in the worst areas. Essential workers will find work elsewhere. Parents will relocate in order to get their kids into school. People won't go out in sufficient numbers to keep the service industry going. Those areas will not recover economically.

It will be Biden's fault according to the antivaxxers.
Large numbers of people believing bullshit will have many costs, economic, as well as lives lost and ruined by maiming. Many of these people are in denial and spouting the bullshit that fills their brains until they are intubated. I imagine some will continue to deny covid exists even after they recover or are maimed by it. The courts better make sure the first amendment doesn't become a suicide pact, because right now it's being wielded as a weapon against the stupid and will be killing them in large numbers. Perhaps spreading lethal public health disinformation should be a crime for individuals and especially for media companies. Lies kill and this has been repeatedly demonstrated with this pandemic, from the fact that there is one, to masks, to public health measures and now with vaccines.
 
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